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What you are seeing here is the Dictator in Action. There is no law to back up what the dictator wants to do so they just create a rule and put it in place, and say it is in accord with another law. Last year children were being taken from parents at border. Judge said it was not legal and stop it. Public reads that and pressure off. Sad thing it did not stop and over 300 more children removed despite court order. It is about time all realize Trump has taken over most parts of the govt. and does what he wants. We talk  about elections and voting Trump out. Well we were all warned by Michael Cohen on that. I hope we have elections, and if we do and Trump looses he leaves office. Time will tell.


It's About Time For Pelosi and the rest of the Democrats to Draw a line in the Sand and Take a Stand - INSTEAD OF JUST WATCHING

 

5 Billion for Trump to pass along to Private For Profit Companies - with no Strings Attached

 

"It is about time all realize Trump has taken over most parts of the govt. and does what he wants."

 

And there is No One in the Government in Elected Office Willing to Put their Political Carreers on the Line to try and STOP Him

 

And Trump Knows this and that is Truly the Trump Playbook & He's Winning With it

 

 


Here is a sad fact for you. Trump will not be impeached, and there is nothing the Dems can do about that so stop trying to make it seem like they can. They can not due to the Reb. Senate. The Dems or anyone else knows how to handle what is going on now. This country has never moved to a Dictatorship before so everything done to try and stop that move is new and untested. We are in mob rule now. Pelosi started out using a plan that worked before in helping the Dems. Times have changed and her approach needs to change also. She will not get him impeached, but can start the inquiry and their is a good chance he will stop it. She can and should move quicker on enforcing subpoenas. Mueller should not be allowed to set the terms of when, how long he will appear before the house. The house can enforce its supboenas by going out and arresting people. She should pick one and do that. I would suggest Barr. Yes the Dems have been to nice and moving slow, and need to speed it up, but they do not need people talking like they are not doing anything. They like all of us are learning, and the Dems are the only hope of saving this country from Dicator Trump. So help stop hurting.

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Federal law states that anyone can apply for asylum on U.S. soil, regardless of immigration status. They can also apply for asylum at a designated point of entry

 

 

 

 


Not if they come through Canada with whom we have a Safe Third Country Agreement - if they land in Canada, they have to stay there and apply for asylum.

 

This is exactly what we need with Mexico.


But we do not have it there fore what Dictator Trump is doing is not by law. What we need is to get rid of Trump and all his followers (like your Gov.) so the USA once again becomes a democracy.

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Federal law states that anyone can apply for asylum on U.S. soil, regardless of immigration status. They can also apply for asylum at a designated point of entry

 

 

 

 


Not if they come through Canada with whom we have a Safe Third Country Agreement - if they land in Canada, they have to stay there and apply for asylum.

 

This is exactly what we need with Mexico.

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@john258 wrote:

What you are seeing here is the Dictator in Action. There is no law to back up what the dictator wants to do so they just create a rule and put it in place, and say it is in accord with another law. Last year children were being taken from parents at border. Judge said it was not legal and stop it. Public reads that and pressure off. Sad thing it did not stop and over 300 more children removed despite court order. It is about time all realize Trump has taken over most parts of the govt. and does what he wants. We talk  about elections and voting Trump out. Well we were all warned by Michael Cohen on that. I hope we have elections, and if we do and Trump looses he leaves office. Time will tell.


It's About Time For Pelosi and the rest of the Democrats to Draw a line in the Sand and Take a Stand - INSTEAD OF JUST WATCHING

 

5 Billion for Trump to pass along to Private For Profit Companies - with no Strings Attached

 

"It is about time all realize Trump has taken over most parts of the govt. and does what he wants."

 

And there is No One in the Government in Elected Office Willing to Put their Political Carreers on the Line to try and STOP Him

 

And Trump Knows this and that is Truly the Trump Playbook & He's Winning With it

 

 

( " China if You're Listening - Get Trumps Tax Returns " )

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What you are seeing here is the Dictator in Action. There is no law to back up what the dictator wants to do so they just create a rule and put it in place, and say it is in accord with another law. Last year children were being taken from parents at border. Judge said it was not legal and stop it. Public reads that and pressure off. Sad thing it did not stop and over 300 more children removed despite court order. It is about time all realize Trump has taken over most parts of the govt. and does what he wants. We talk  about elections and voting Trump out. Well we were all warned by Michael Cohen on that. I hope we have elections, and if we do and Trump looses he leaves office. Time will tell.

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This will be in court immediately and an injunction is the likely outcome.

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No Demagoguery & Oligarchy 

 

The author called it a policy change 

 

Only Monarchs & Dictators can change a Country's Laws on a Whim 

 

Asylum Policy is supported by US Laws 

 

US Presidents cannot tweet changes to US Law 

 

This issue will be in Court by tomorrow where once again after wasting Tax Payers Money & Time - Trump Will Lose 

 

Federal law states that anyone can apply for asylum on U.S. soil, regardless of immigration status. They can also apply for asylum at a designated point of entry

 

 

 

 

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WASHINGTON (AP) — Reversing decades of U.S. policy, the Trump administration said Monday it will end all asylum protections for most migrants who arrive at the U.S.-Mexico border — the president’s most forceful attempt to block asylum claims and slash the number of people seeking refuge in America.

 

The new rule, expected to go into effect Tuesday, would cover countless would-be refugees, many of them fleeing violence and poverty in Central America. It is certain to face legal challenges.

 

According to the plan published in the Federal Register , migrants who pass through another country — in this case, Mexico — on their way to the U.S. will be ineligible for asylum. The rule also applies to children who have crossed the border alone.

 

The vast majority of people affected by the rule are from Central America. But sometimes migrants from Africa , Cuba or Haiti and other countries try to come through the U.S.-Mexico border, as well.

There are some exceptions, including for victims of human trafficking and asylum-seekers who were denied protection in another country. If the country the migrant passed through did not sign one of the major international treaties governing how refugees are managed (though most Western countries signed them) a migrant could still apply for U.S. asylum.

 

Mexican Foreign Relations Secretary Marcelo Ebrard said Monday that his country “does not agree with any measure that limits access to asylum.” Mexico’s asylum system is also currently overwhelmed.

 

Trump administration officials say the changes are meant to close the gap between the initial asylum screening that most people pass and the final decision on asylum that most people do not win.

Attorney General William Barr said that the United States is “a generous country but is being completely overwhelmed” by the burdens associated with apprehending and processing hundreds of thousands of migrants at the southern border.

 

He also said the rule is aimed at “economic migrants” and “those who seek to exploit our asylum system to obtain entry to the United States.”

 

But immigrant rights groups, religious leaders and humanitarian groups have said the Republican administration’s policies amount to a cruel effort to keep immigrants out of the country. Guatemala, Honduras and El Salvador are poor countries, often wracked by violence.

 

“This is yet another move to turn refugees with well-founded fears of persecution back to places where their lives are in danger — in fact the rule would deny asylum to refugees who do not apply for asylum in countries where they are in peril,” said Eleanor Acer of Human Rights First.

 

ACLU attorney Lee Gelernt, who has litigated some of the major challenges to the Trump administration’s immigration policies, said the rule was unlawful and the group planned to sue.

“The rule, if upheld, would effectively eliminate asylum for those at the southern border,” he said. “But it is patently unlawful.”

 

U.S. law allows refugees to request asylum when they arrive at the U.S. regardless of how they arrive or cross. The crucial exception is for those who have come through a country considered to be “safe,” but the Immigration and Nationality Act, which governs asylum law, is vague on how a country is determined safe. It says pursuant to a bilateral or multilateral agreement.”

 

Right now, the U.S. has such an agreement, known as a “safe third country,” only with Canada.

Mexico and Central American countries have been considering a regional compact on the issue, but nothing has been decided. Guatemalan officials were expected in Washington on Monday, but apparently a meeting between Trump and Guatemalan President Jimmy Morales was canceled amid a court challenge in Guatemala over whether the country could agree to a safe-country agreement with the U.S.

 

The new rule also will apply to the initial asylum screening, known as a “credible fear” interview, at which migrants must prove they have credible fears of returning to their home country. It applies to migrants who are arriving to the U.S., not those who are already in the country.

 

Acting Homeland Security Secretary Kevin McAleenan said additional funding given by Congress for aid at the U.S.-Mexico border isn’t enough.

 

“Until Congress can act, this interim rule will help reduce a major ‘pull’ factor driving irregular migration to the United States.”

 

The treaties that countries must have signed according to the new rule are the 1951 Convention relating to the Status of Refugees, the 1967 Protocol or the Convention against Torture and Other Cruel, Inhuman or Degrading Treatment or Punishment. But, for example, while Australia, France and Brazil have signed those treaties, so have Afghanistan and Libya, places the U.S. does not consider safe.

 

Along with the administration’s recent effort to send asylum seekers back over the border , Trump has tried to deny asylum to anyone crossing the border illegally and restrict who can claim asylum, and the attorney general recently tried to keep thousands of asylum seekers detained while their cases play out.

 

Nearly all of those efforts have been blocked by courts.

 

Tens of thousands of Central American migrant families cross the border each month, many claiming asylum. Border facilities have been dangerously cramped and crowded well beyond capacity. The Department of Homeland Security’s watchdog found fetid, filthy conditions for many children. And lawmakers who traveled there recently decried conditions .

 

But many migrants say they are simply too scared to stay in their own countries.

 

Oscar Ponce, a 48-year-old bus driver from Honduras who was waiting in a Mexican border town to cross into the U.S., said he wanted to apply for asylum legally. He left his home after gangs threatened to kill him if he didn’t pay their “tax.”

 

“Plan B is through the river,” Ponce told The Associated Press in Ciudad Juarez.

Immigration courts are backlogged by more than 800,000 cases, meaning many people won’t have their asylum claims heard for years despite more judges being hired.

 

People are generally eligible for asylum in the U.S. if they fear return to their home country because they would be persecuted based on race, religion, nationality or membership in a particular social group.

 

During the budget year for 2009, there were 35,811 asylum claims, and 8,384 were granted. During 2018 budget year, there were 162,060 claims filed, and 13,168 were granted.

 

https://www.apnews.com/6bef9ed6c48b4c2ea203cbbea3ccacad

 

 

 

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