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Centrist said, "Duke also said White Supremicists were in Charlottesville to fulfill the promises of Trump. White Conservatives think they can run and hide from this hateful rhetoric.  Like it or not, the KKK, the Alt Right and Trump are joined at the hip."

 

So true Centrist, but you should also include our resident Trump Lovers who defend everything he does and says. Trump hired two white nationalists to work in the White House (no pun intended). If you support Trump 100%, as they do, that means you are supporting the viewpoints of White Nationalists.

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@creppelrm wrote:

Well, David Duke said himself "It was the white vote that gave Trump the presidency".  Especially the Radical Right whites.  And none of those White supremacist or KKK members confessed to being a left leaning Democrats.  I'm willing to bet you not a one voted for Hillary.  And now if Trump doesn't condemn them the rest of the country will including the GOP.


Duke also said White Supremicists were in Charlottesville to fulfill the promises of Trump. White Conservatives think they can run and hide from this hateful rhetoric.  Like it or not, the KKK, the Alt Right and Trump are joined at the hip.


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Well, David Duke said himself "It was the white vote that gave Trump the presidency".  Especially the Radical Right whites.  And none of those White supremacist or KKK members confessed to being a left leaning Democrats.  I'm willing to bet you not a one voted for Hillary.  And now if Trump doesn't condemn them the rest of the country will including the GOP.

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@KidBoy2 wrote:
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In fact, the only ones who think his words were satisfactory were the Alt-Right, the KKK, the White Supremacists, the Conservatives here, and apparently you. That speaks volumes, doesn't it?

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There you go again going your "I know what you and conservatives think". You do not ...I know what I think, you do not.

I resent the fact that you keep posting things about me that are not true.  You must have forgotten you posted, "Trump did condemm the actions in Charlottesville as he should have." less than six hours ago.....
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Did the white supremacy group in Charlottesville have a permit to march? If so why?

I have not seen that subject addressed.



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Cent posted..

In fact, the only ones who think his words were satisfactory were the Alt-Right, the KKK, the White Supremacists, the Conservatives here, and apparently you. That speaks volumes, doesn't it?

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There you go again going your "I know what you and conservatives think". You do not ...I know what I think, you do not.

I resent the fact that you keep posting things about me that are not true.
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On CNN this AM, a talking head with credentials said that 'the donald' was employing classical methods to achieve full power as dictator.  He then said that he could not imagine that once having achieved power 'the donald' would allow our voting process to remove him from power, citing 'the donald's' behavior regarding a 'rigged election' prior to this.  He was quite forceful, even vehement, about what was happening and what should be done about it. 

 

Many others, including me, said similar things long before the 2016 election.  That counts for nothing now since not enough listened and saw the same things happening then.  Perhaps now they will.

 

The similarity of events to what happened throughout history under other dictators, before and after securing absolute power, is striking and undeniable.  Something absolutely must be done about ALL of what is happening before the grip of the RRR on everyone's freedom cannot be dislodged.  I has happened more than once before.  It can happen again.  IF we do nothing, it will.

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   I would urge everyone to read the fox news explanation (?) coverage for Donald.    Read for yourself what they are attempting to do by adding the words "other extremists".    Is that suppose to instruct anyone who disagrees to do nothing?    

    That is what Donald has often demanded, by having anyone who disagrees with him to be removed from his political rallies.  

    Note all his ventures to WV or Ohio or Iowa are political rallies not like Town halls where everyone can attend.    That is the only way that he can select the crowd and most of his followers are not thinking about why no one hears opposition at his 2017 rallies.  

 

    Fairly deep into the article the statement of Adam Schiff - Rep. Adam Schiff, D-Calif., tweeted that Trump must “speak out against the poisonous resurgence of white supremacy. There are not 'many sides' here, just right and wrong."

 

    Did donald supporters read and comprehend what he is saying.     From the donald supporter thread and comments...the answer is apparently NO.  

 

     http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/08/13/trump-condemns-white-supremacists-other-extremists-behind...

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Trump lit the torches of white supremacy in Charlottesville. We must extinguish them.

 

President Trump lit every one of those torches in Charlottesville.

 

Yes, the white supremacists have always been with us. A parade of racist bigots is no surprise to anyone familiar with our history, especially those who have been the target of hatred and violence for centuries.

 

But when the mob of white men marched in Charlottesville carrying flaming torches Friday night shouting “Heil Trump” as the curtain-raiser for a day of violent clashes with counterprotesters that left three people dead, they showed the world that America is once again playing with fire.

And Trump was the one with the match.

 

The symbolism was not subtle. Torches, witch hunts, flaming crosses — they all stretch back to our country’s founding. All those white-power bros knew exactly the kind of fear they were trying to evoke, even if their tiki torches came from Home Depot’s end-of-the-season patio sale.

 

The Nazi and Confederate flags were equally chilling to the millions of Americans who lost relatives in the Holocaust or in the fight against Hitler, or those with vivid memories of relentless racial oppression, including lynchings, church bombings and assassinations at the hands of the Ku Klux Klan and other white supremacist terrorists.

 

Now we’re live-streaming that very same hatred while Trump looks the other way. It was 90 years ago that Fred Trump, Donald Trump’s father, was arrested for failing to disperse at a Ku Klux Klan rally in Queens that sounded a lot like the scene at Charlottesville.

 

Except today, there are no hoods.

 

Donald Trump gave everyone permission to take those hoods off with his winks, nods and refusal to take a moral stand on racial hatred and intimidation during his campaign and during the first six months of his presidency. He’d already spent years questioning the birthplace and legitimacy of President Barack Obama, the nation’s first black commander in chief. And the haters loved him for it.

On Saturday, the president stayed silent at his New Jersey golf club for hours, even as former KKK grand wizard David Duke declared Charlottesville a “turning point” for a movement that aims to “fulfill the promises of Donald Trump.”

 

First, he offered a vague tweet condemning hatred without any explicit reference to the hundreds of men, some wearing red Make America Great Again hats, who chanted “White lives matter,” “You will not replace us” and “Jews will not replace us.”

 

It wasn’t until a 20-year-old from Ohio plowed his car into a crowd of peaceful counterdemonstrators, injuring 19 and killing one woman, that Trump addressed the terrorist attack on his own soil.

 

 

“We condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry and violence on many sides. On many sides,” he said.

 

Wrong.

 

“There is only one side,” former vice president Joe Biden succinctly replied on Twitter.

Trump is so afraid of offending his Tiki Tribe that he didn’t even own his flaccid statement with “I.”

 

On Sunday morning, his daughter Ivanka Trump finally called out the cancer that is at the heart of this domestic terrorism.

 

“There should be no place in society for racism, white supremacy and neo-nazis,” she tweeted.

She, however, is not the commander in chief.

 

We are the ones who have to extinguish the blaze our president sparked. Democrat, Republican, independent — it doesn’t matter. Everyone must reject what’s been unleashed in this country. And that’s already happening.

 

Former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee (R), the father of Trump’s press secretary, Sarah Huckabee Sanders, tweeted: “ ‘White supremacy’ crap is worst kind of racism-it’s EVIL and perversion of God’s truth to ever think our Creator values some above others.”

 

Sen. Orrin G. Hatch (R-Utah) agreed: “We should call evil by its name. My brother didn’t give his life fighting Hitler for Nazi ideas to go unchallenged here at home.”

 

The torches in Charlottesville are a dangerous sideshow in America’s ongoing culture war.

 

We need to stop attributing the resurgence of racism to income inequality or job loss and stop tucking it into the great red vs. blue, progressivism vs. conservatism, urban vs. rural struggle that is at the heart of debate in our society.

 

The University of Virginia, where the white extremists marched with their lit torches, is the home of James Davison Hunter, the sociologist who helped define the contemporary American culture war.

 

In 1992 — as the American presidential election was rocked by the debate over a TV character’s single motherhood in “Murphy Brown” — Hunter reminded us that these cultural skirmishes aren’t just rhetoric or “political froth.”

 

“Cumulatively, these disputes amount to a fundamental struggle over the ‘first principles’ of how we will order our life together,” Hunter wrote in The Washington Post. “Through these seemingly disparate issues we find ourselves, in other words, in a struggle to define ourselves as Americans and what kind of society we want to build and sustain.”

 

Trump lit the torches of white supremacy in Charlottesville. We must extinguish them.

 


@100% agreement. I probaly read 20 news articles and even more opinions on this when I got up today. Denier are going to deny, and most likely ost of them here wont condemn it..much like they defend killer cops. Sooner or later these groups will again be marginalized by politicos  ( some mentioned in this post ) but i dont expect a lot of prison sentences out of it for terrorism ( it is ) . The reason politicians on the right want it to go away while tacitly supporting policies that enable it is because IT UNITES THE LEFT, who are the biggest bunch of @holes  to never agree on a leader because they think things to death.

 

The folks on the right who wont come out and condem these actions, even tho they may feel they arent part of it, are also the ones wondering why they general Muslim population doesnt speak out against ISIS. 

 

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@KidBoy2 wrote:
Trump lit the torches of white supremacy in Charlottesville. We must extinguish them.

President Trump lit every one of those torches in Charlottesville.

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Another thread that is not true....it does show the hate for President Trump. Trump did condemm the actions in Charlottesville as he should have.

Just because you don't like something, Kidboy, doesn't make it "not true".  Your elected-one has been fanning the flames of racism since before his birther movement.  Obviously Conservative heads remain in the sand.

 

BTW, most responsible Republicans, even Conservatives in Congress like Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio and many others said trumps words yesterday did not go far enough condemning the actions of the Alt-Right.

 

In fact, the only ones who think his words were satisfactory were the Alt-Right, the KKK, the White Supremacists, the Conservatives here, and apparently you.  That speaks volumes, doesn't it?


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