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@KidBoy2 wrote:
Trump has turned his last corner

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Turned his last corner...that is wishful thinking.

Trump is not a politician and he shows that.

Trump has no couth.

Trump also has the ability to get things done...a ability the Mr Obama did not have.

Good things are happening thanks to Trump ... end of Obamacare...the XL and the Dakota Access pipe lines...pro business means more jobs with means more tax revenue for governments... local state and federal.


I definitely agree that he is 'uncouth', he has no scruples or integrity, nor a conscience or moral compass. 

 

He does have the ability the "get things done", like stir ring up controversy, hate, and division. He makes himself look totally foolish accusing Obama of wire tapping him and takes himself one step closer to not finishing his first term. What a gross embarrassment Trump is to the office of the Presidency of the United States.


"The only thing man learns from history is man learns nothing from history"
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@KidBoy2 wrote:
Trump has turned his last corner

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Turned his last corner...that is wishful thinking.
Hopeful thinking as our nation cannot survive a buffoon as President much longer.

Trump is not a politician and he shows that.
He also has no qualifications to be President ..... and "he shows that" every day!

Trump has no couth.
Agree ..... Trump is a complete dufus buffoon!

Trump also has the ability to get things done...
Nope ..... He only has the ability to lie and con his supporters who blindly believe anything he says .... no matter how ludicrous!
a ability the Mr Obama did not have.
President Obama did not have a Congress controlled by his Party ..... and he recognized the judiciary branch of our government.

Good things are happening thanks to Trump ...
Nope ......Revolting unconstitutional "things" are happening "thanks to Trump"!
end of Obamacare
Nope .......Trump will just re-name it and drastically cut the benefits and protection that Obamacare offered!
...the XL and the Dakota Access pipe lines...pro business means more jobs with means more tax revenue for governments... local state and federal.
Nope ..... More environmental destruction with no permanent job growth.


 

DUMP TRUMP AND DITCH MITCH TO MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!!!
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Trump has turned his last corner

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Turned his last corner...that is wishful thinking.

Trump is not a politician and he shows that.

Trump has no couth.

Trump also has the ability to get things done...a ability the Mr Obama did not have.

Good things are happening thanks to Trump ... end of Obamacare...the XL and the Dakota Access pipe lines...pro business means more jobs with means more tax revenue for governments... local state and federal.

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Der Trumper's biggest lies just might involve his alleged wealth. According to public records, Trump received a $302 New York tax rebate in 2013 (and in two other recent years) given to couples earning less than $500,000 per year, who submit as proof their federal tax returns.

 

Turns out, we don't need to impeach the gutless draft-dodging preppytwit - the 25th Amendment has this interesting provision:

Section 4. Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President.

 

So, Mike Pence and 6 Cabnet Secretaries (there are 11 total) can remove Agent Orange from office. Time to switch the "Impeach" protests to "Remove" protests. It's not even like they'd have to investigate to get the evidence of his inability to discharge the powers and duties of his office, he's tweeted all the proof any rational being would require to come to that conclusion.

 

 

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Excellent article, @lk152

 

An analyst on CNN was commenting yesterday on those in the president's cabinet who were realists, such as Mattis, Kelly, and Tillerson, and whose job it was to carry out policy decisions, would end up at odds with WH advisers like Bannon, Priebus, Kushner, etc. He believed that the realists would eventually win out. But I'm not so sure. Trump is not a realist and he will more than likely go with whatever is fed to him through his advisers, especially Bannon and Kushner. At the moment, I'd say Bannon is pulling all of the strings. He has the means to channel whatever he wants out to the public and get Trump to react accordingly. 

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By his actions in his first 45 days as President, Donald Trump has consistently showed that he is mentally and morally unfit to be President of the United States. Sooner or later, congressional Republicans must come to the relization that the longer Donald Trump occupies the oval office, the worse it will become for the United States. Already North Korea is testing whether or not that nation could exercise its military and could start a war at a moment's notice. How would Donald Trump react if North Korea launched a missile attack on South Korea? Or tested an ICBM that could potentially reach the United States? 

 

Our country needs a President who is calm and level headed, who is not prone to knee jerk reations when it comes to foreign policy. One thing that the United States does not need is another "chicken hawk" in charge of foreign affairs and who is Commander in Chief. It is easy for a President to send our troops into harm's way, especially when that President has never served in the military. Donald Trump dodged the draft during the Vietnam era, citing bone spurs on his heels as an excuse. At least Bill Clinton was studying abroad as a Rhodes Scholar and George W Bush was in the Texas Air National Guard. Donald Trump was learning the ins and outs of New York real estate, preparing to make his billions instead of remotely serving his country. At least Bill Clinton was in the ROTC program. 

 

Congressional Republicans will soon be facing a dilemma. Should they place the interests of the country and perhaps the long term survival of their party ahead of the President? IMHO, this should be a no-brainer for many sane Republicans. Donald Trump has no loyalty to any political party and if he is allowed to remain as President for his full term, he will do irreparable harm to the nation. 

 

As Froma Harop stated in her column, if Donald Trump's actions as President leads to another foreign war or an economic crisis; it won't matter what Trump's "base" of supporters believe. They will turn on everyone. The carnage at the ballot box in 2018 and 2020 will be great and it will fall most heavily on those who stood behind Donald Trump. 

 

My belief is that by this fall, congressional Republicans will see that Vice President Mike Pence is a much more stable and acceptable person as President. They will desert Donald Trump and as the circle closes in around Donald Trump; he will either face certain impeachment and removal from office or be forced to resign like Nixon did in 1974. 

 

A few months ago I posted a topic asking whether the United States is ready for another Watergate type scandal. Now it appears that scandal is brewing right now and is ready to explode across the headlines. Ultimately I believe that this scandal involving Donald Trump will have the same end result as the Watergate scandal had in 1974. My prediction is that by the 2018 mid term elections, Donald Trump will be gone and Mike Pence will be the 46th President. The 47th President will be whoever the Democratic party nominates in 2020. 

 

 

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Froma Harop is one of my favorite columnists. Her columns are always well researched and well written. This column, published today in Creator's syndicate, clearly states the obvious. Donald Trump has gone completely off his rocker and is becoming a danger to the country. His wild Saturday night tweet accusing former President Obama of wiretapping Trump Tower during the campaign is so far off base that it isn't even in the ball park.

 

First, Presidents cannot order any wiretaps. Those have to be ordered by the FBI or the National Security Council and approved by a judge. There has to be probable cause that there is either a crime being committed or that the person who is the subject of the wiretap poses a danger to the United States. 

 

Here is her column:

 

That speech to Congress now seems forever ago. Reading the words off a teleprompter, Donald Trump sounded normal, even presidential. Stern critics opined that he had "turned a corner" and transformed into a serious president. Come the weekend, however, Trump turned another corner, this time into a dark dead end.

 

Trump was back to his Saturday morning habit of firing a fusillade of baseless inflammatory tweets. This time, they accused President Obama of wiretapping Trump Tower during the campaign.

 

The last hope for normalcy was dashed, and a dark realization took hold: Trump can't do the presidency. What we saw in the first 45 days was crisis without end. What we will see in the days to come is more of the scary same.

 

And this comes at a relatively placid time in American history. We have not been threatened from the outside. What's going to happen when a hostile foreign power decides to test us, knowing that the man in charge isn't able to absorb information and respond rationally?

 

There's no comforting explanation for this behavior. Did Trump believe the wiretapping charges to be true based on his reading of a Breitbart article and the hollering of a talk-radio provocateur? If so, why didn't he just call the acting director of national intelligence or the FBI and ask?He's the president, or so we hear.

Or was Trump just reverting to form and deflecting attention from a miserable news cycle in which several of his campaign associates were being linked to the country's Russian adversaries? His strategy has been to change the conversation in time for the Sunday news talk shows. In this, he seems to have succeeded, but the cost was huge.

 

As former CIA Director Michael Hayden commented Monday, "the president of the United States put his own reputation, the reputation of his predecessor and the reputation of his nation at risk to get at least a draw out of the next 24 hours of news."

 

For the record, both FBI Director James Comey and James Clapper, director of national intelligence under Obama, said there were no such wiretaps — and they would know.

 

Presidents don't order surveillance on Americans. Intelligence officials can place a wiretap on someone only after showing the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court probable cause that the target is an agent of a foreign power or involved in a crime.

 

If Trump was indeed under surveillance, the public should demand to know why. What information persuaded a judge to order national intelligence to keep an eye on him and possibly his associates?

Patriots must unite and start winding down this bizarre presidency. This is no longer about Republicans and Democrats; it's about forestalling a national emergency.

 

Congress must launch an independent investigation into the Trump team's Russian ties and appoint a special prosecutor. Trump's unhinged behavior should be reason enough for his removal — through impeachment or pressure to resign. But if the probes find serious wrongdoing, Congress must act.

 

Republicans are in the politically awkward position of either doing what many know must be done or alienating Trump's base of ardent believers. But love of country should take precedence over love of job. Besides, if presidential instability were to set off an economic collapse or another crisis, the base would turn on them all.

 

By the time you read this, the Trump administration will probably have spawned a half-dozen new shocking revelations or blatant lies. But there will be no more intervening blips of optimism that it can go straight. There's only one more corner for Trump to turn, and it is the one leading to the exits.

 

Read the entire column at this link:

 

https://www.creators.com/read/froma-harrop

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