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Obama had lots of dumb ideas many of which are showing up now. I'm sure this will end as much of Obama's EOs have.

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Your post makes no sense.

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@ChasKy53 wrote:

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So do you like the fact that trump overturned an EO of Obama's that now allows the coal industry to dump their solvent and contaminate laden sludge into our creeks, streams and waterways, which cause cancers like the one that I have?  Do you also like the fact that he chose to overturn this yet does nothing to stop the spying mentioned in this topic?

 

Trump is responsible for what is happening under his watch.


So was Trump continuing a policy of Obama's?  Obama was legislating by Executive Order, not going through the Congress.

 

Has nothing to do with the trend of the discussion.

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@mickstuder wrote:

Continue or not - he's allowing to to Continue




As RK said:  "Continue" is the key word. You were posting as though it was something he dreamed up."

 

It is a policy that the Obama administration came up and CONTINUE is the key word.  Nothing said about the previous administration coming up with the idea, but you have basically said that it is the present administration that started it.

 

That is why liberals here get all all upset when Hillary or Obama is mentioned...because they cannot accept responsibility for their faults but want to blame it on the present one.


So do you like the fact that trump overturned an EO of Obama's that now allows the coal industry to dump their solvent and contaminate laden sludge into our creeks, streams and waterways, which cause cancers like the one that I have?  Do you also like the fact that he chose to overturn this yet does nothing to stop the spying mentioned in this topic?

 

Trump is responsible for what is happening under his watch.


"The only thing man learns from history is man learns nothing from history"
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@TxGrandpa2 wrote:

@mickstuder wrote:

Continue or not - he's allowing to to Continue




As RK said:  "Continue" is the key word. You were posting as though it was something he dreamed up."

 

It is a policy that the Obama administration came up and CONTINUE is the key word.  Nothing said about the previous administration coming up with the idea, but you have basically said that it is the present administration that started it.

 

That is why liberals here get all all upset when Hillary or Obama is mentioned...because they cannot accept responsibility for their faults but want to blame it on the present one.


WHATABOUTISM

 

Is not a Credible Argument - it's used when there is No Credible Argument

 

Ironically - it's become Main Stream in the USA under Trump

 

Ironically Because like most everything else with Trump and the Trump Cult - it's modeled after Practices & Policies Developed in the Soviet Union by people Like Trumps BFF Putin

 

Since the Cold War, Moscow has engaged in a political points-scoring exercise known as "whataboutism" used to shut down criticism of Russia's own rights record by pointing out abuses elsewhere. All criticism of Russia is invalid, the idea goes, because problems exist in other countries too.
—Max Seddon, Buzzfeed, 25 Nov. 2014

 

Whataboutism.png

 

 

 

 

 

( " China if You're Listening - Get Trumps Tax Returns " )

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@mickstuder wrote:

Continue or not - he's allowing to to Continue




As RK said:  "Continue" is the key word. You were posting as though it was something he dreamed up."

 

It is a policy that the Obama administration came up and CONTINUE is the key word.  Nothing said about the previous administration coming up with the idea, but you have basically said that it is the present administration that started it.

 

That is why liberals here get all all upset when Hillary or Obama is mentioned...because they cannot accept responsibility for their faults but want to blame it on the present one.

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@mickstuder wrote:

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@mickstuder wrote:

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@n566192l wrote:

I thought that the topics on this forum where current.  When did we start going back to the slats in the Crib?


When people start blaming the current President for something in effect years before his Presidency, that is when we start going back to it's roots.


All kinds of "Somethings" were In effect when Trump took office - now totally destroyed with Nothing - Nada - put in its place to replace them - never mind anything - better - which was what was promised!

 

Trump assumed responsibility for all these things - that's what happens when you run for President and you win - you own it.....

 

 

Obamacare was in full effect

 

US Participation in the Paris Climate Agreement 

 

US Participation in NAFTA 

 

US Participation in TPP

 

US Participation in The Iran Nuclear Deal 

 

 

 Sorry - I cannot see TPP related with your great fears of the government SPYING ON INNOCENT AMERICANS.

 


 


Well Let me Help................

 

You said -

 

"When people start blaming the current President for something in effect years before his Presidency, that is when we start going back to it's roots."

 

1. He's the Current President - this program is his to do with what he wants just like TPP - NAFTA - Climate Change - Iran - etc

What has that to do with Trump has TSA SPYING on Innocent Americans?

 

It's disengenuous to make a argument to the other Forum Members that if Trump can Eliminate Major Treaties - Implement a Zero Tolerance Policy at the Borders - Etc.

What has that to do with Trump has TSA SPYING on Innocent Americans?

 

He's not also Responsible for allowing a Spying Program on Innocent Americans to Continue or not - he's allowing to to Continue

"Continue" is the key word. You were posting as though it was something he dreamed up.

 

You don't get to Cherry Pick the things that are under the Control of the Trump Administration and blame History for the uncompfrtable unpopular stuff but then  take Credit for the Positive Stuff - you had nothing to do with

What has that to do with Trump has TSA SPYING on Innocent Americans?

 

Like for Example the Stock Market that has been on a upward trajectory for years

What has that to do with Trump has TSA SPYING on Innocent Americans?

 

Like for Example the Unemployment Figures which likewise have been improving consistently for years

What has that to do with Trump has TSA SPYING on Innocent Americans?

 

Same with GDP - Crime - Etc.

What has that to do with Trump has TSA SPYING on Innocent Americans?

 

 

 

 


 

Dog Chasing Tail.png

 

 

 


 

 

( " China if You're Listening - Get Trumps Tax Returns " )

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@mickstuder wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

@mickstuder wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

@n566192l wrote:

I thought that the topics on this forum where current.  When did we start going back to the slats in the Crib?


When people start blaming the current President for something in effect years before his Presidency, that is when we start going back to it's roots.


All kinds of "Somethings" were In effect when Trump took office - now totally destroyed with Nothing - Nada - put in its place to replace them - never mind anything - better - which was what was promised!

 

Trump assumed responsibility for all these things - that's what happens when you run for President and you win - you own it.....

 

 

Obamacare was in full effect

 

US Participation in the Paris Climate Agreement 

 

US Participation in NAFTA 

 

US Participation in TPP

 

US Participation in The Iran Nuclear Deal 

 

 

 Sorry - I cannot see TPP related with your great fears of the government SPYING ON INNOCENT AMERICANS.

 


 


Well Let me Help................

 

You said -

 

"When people start blaming the current President for something in effect years before his Presidency, that is when we start going back to it's roots."

 

1. He's the Current President - this program is his to do with what he wants just like TPP - NAFTA - Climate Change - Iran - etc

What has that to do with Trump has TSA SPYING on Innocent Americans?

 

It's disengenuous to make a argument to the other Forum Members that if Trump can Eliminate Major Treaties - Implement a Zero Tolerance Policy at the Borders - Etc.

What has that to do with Trump has TSA SPYING on Innocent Americans?

 

He's not also Responsible for allowing a Spying Program on Innocent Americans to Continue or not - he's allowing to to Continue

"Continue" is the key word. You were posting as though it was something he dreamed up.

 

You don't get to Cherry Pick the things that are under the Control of the Trump Administration and blame History for the uncompfrtable unpopular stuff but then  take Credit for the Positive Stuff - you had nothing to do with

What has that to do with Trump has TSA SPYING on Innocent Americans?

 

Like for Example the Stock Market that has been on a upward trajectory for years

What has that to do with Trump has TSA SPYING on Innocent Americans?

 

Like for Example the Unemployment Figures which likewise have been improving consistently for years

What has that to do with Trump has TSA SPYING on Innocent Americans?

 

Same with GDP - Crime - Etc.

What has that to do with Trump has TSA SPYING on Innocent Americans?

 

 

 

 


 

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@rk9152 wrote:

@mickstuder wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

@n566192l wrote:

I thought that the topics on this forum where current.  When did we start going back to the slats in the Crib?


When people start blaming the current President for something in effect years before his Presidency, that is when we start going back to it's roots.


All kinds of "Somethings" were In effect when Trump took office - now totally destroyed with Nothing - Nada - put in its place to replace them - never mind anything - better - which was what was promised!

 

Trump assumed responsibility for all these things - that's what happens when you run for President and you win - you own it.....

 

 

Obamacare was in full effect

 

US Participation in the Paris Climate Agreement 

 

US Participation in NAFTA 

 

US Participation in TPP

 

US Participation in The Iran Nuclear Deal 

 

 

 Sorry - I cannot see TPP related with your great fears of the government SPYING ON INNOCENT AMERICANS.

 


 


Well Let me Help................

 

You said -

 

"When people start blaming the current President for something in effect years before his Presidency, that is when we start going back to it's roots."

 

1. He's the Current President - this program is his to do with what he wants just like TPP - NAFTA - Climate Change - Iran - etc

 

It's disengenuous to make a argument to the other Forum Members that if Trump can Eliminate Major Treaties - Implement a Zero Tolerance Policy at the Borders - Etc.

 

He's not also Responsible for allowing a Spying Program on Innocent Americans to Continue or not - he's allowing to to Continue

 

You don't get to Cherry Pick the things that are under the Control of the Trump Administration and blame History for the uncompfrtable unpopular stuff but then  take Credit for the Positive Stuff - you had nothing to do with

 

Like for Example the Stock Market that has been on a upward trajectory for years

 

Like for Example the Unemployment Figures which likewise have been improving consistently for years

 

Same with GDP - Crime - Etc.

 

 

 

 

( " China if You're Listening - Get Trumps Tax Returns " )

" )
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@mickstuder wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

@n566192l wrote:

I thought that the topics on this forum where current.  When did we start going back to the slats in the Crib?


When people start blaming the current President for something in effect years before his Presidency, that is when we start going back to it's roots.


All kinds of "Somethings" were In effect when Trump took office - now totally destroyed with Nothing - Nada - put in its place to replace them - never mind anything - better - which was what was promised!

 

Trump assumed responsibility for all these things - that's what happens when you run for President and you win - you own it.....

 

 

Obamacare was in full effect

 

US Participation in the Paris Climate Agreement 

 

US Participation in NAFTA 

 

US Participation in TPP

 

US Participation in The Iran Nuclear Deal 

 

 

 Sorry - I cannot see TPP related with your great fears of the government SPYING ON INNOCENT AMERICANS.

 


 

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