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I know who Rush is but "Annie"???

 

Think of it this way, the President realized that then bill being offered did not allow him to fulfill his campaign promise and refused to sign it.

 

Sounds rather honorable to me.


Look at it this way. After giving the builder (McConnel) detailed instructions on what he wanted to have and what he would accept in the house while under construction, the owner (Trump) decided he had wanted a basement the day the builder was to present him with the keys to the new house.  In short, the man was a moron. 


Look at it this way - the President campaigned on building the wall.

 

Any non-moron can understand that. It does not require an analogy.


Look at it this way.  Trump is catering to his moronic base ............. a minority of Americans ignorant enough to believe that a Wall is the answer to border security and immigration reform.


I know of no one who believes that. But there are some who consider physical barriers to not be a factor. Now, about "ignorant"......


If you know "no one" that believes that then you need to broaden the scope of  who you know. The majority of Americans don't want the wall. That's reality. Yep, it takes ignorance to believe that the wall is the answer to border security and immigration reform when it isn't. NO one has apposed "border security", the wall just isn't necessary to have that.


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We already have 700 miles of wall where its effective. lil donny insists we build 240 more miles where it serves no purpose. He's playing to his moronic base and trying to avoid Rush calling him a wimp, which is as strategic his thinking gets. It's also the best decision he can make given what he considers reliable intelligence information.

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Why is Trump opposed to real, effective border security? Is it for partisan purposes? Or is it for personal reasons?

 

Since they had the votes in December to pass the bills why wouldn’t the Republicans bring them up for a vote? As McConnell said, he was not going to consider any bill that Trump wouldn’t sign. Nothing to do with Pelosi or the Democrats, just Trump and his Republican enablers.


McConnell will not go against trump because trump placed McConnell's wife and brother-in-law in appointments. McConnell is bought and paid for, he's gott' go in 2020.


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I just hope that Trump doesn't shut down the Government again over the Wall 😡


I just hope Nancy doesn't do it for partisan purposes again.


Are you referring to the shutdown that occurred when the Republicans had control of both houses of Congress? Please explain how Ms. Pelosi had the power to prevent the Republicans from bringing a bill passed by the House up for a vote in the Senate or how she forced Ryan to refuse to bring a bill passed nearly unanimously in the Senate up for a vote in the House.

 

Not everyone is as ignorant as Trump supporters.


Under Congressional rules the budget could not be passed without Dem votes.

 

Before throwing the word "ignorant" around, it might be wise to acquire some knowledge.


How was any Democrat supposed to vote for a bill when the Republican leadership refused to allow for a vote? 

 

The fact is is that several Democrats in each house voted for a bill to fund the government. The Senate passed a bill to fund the government nearly unanimously (which means that many Democrats voted for it) but Paul Ryan refused to allow a vote on that bill in the House. 

 

The House had also passed a bill to fund the government with many Democratic votes but Mitch McConnell refused to allow a vote on that bill. 

 

You still haven’t explained how Nancy Pelosi had such power that she was able to force Ryan and McConnell to act as they did. 

 

Before you continue to post your claim that Pelosi shut down the government for partisan purposes you might actually look at some facts. If Trump supporters actually look led at facts instead of just making up excuses maybe so many wouldn’t think them proudly ignorant.


The Leadership is not going to put up a bill that Pelosi wants and (due to Pelosi) they didn't have the votes for border security.

 

If not for partisan reasons - why is she opposed to the President's request? I would not claim she opposes border security - so why???

 

I hope that does not make me "proudly ignorant" in the eyes of "so many".


Why is Trump opposed to real, effective border security? Is it for partisan purposes? Or is it for personal reasons?


I have seen no indication that he is.

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@ChasKy53 wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

@Richva wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

I know who Rush is but "Annie"???

 

Think of it this way, the President realized that then bill being offered did not allow him to fulfill his campaign promise and refused to sign it.

 

Sounds rather honorable to me.


Look at it this way. After giving the builder (McConnel) detailed instructions on what he wanted to have and what he would accept in the house while under construction, the owner (Trump) decided he had wanted a basement the day the builder was to present him with the keys to the new house.  In short, the man was a moron. 


Look at it this way - the President campaigned on building the wall.

 

Any non-moron can understand that. It does not require an analogy.


Look at it this way.  Trump is catering to his moronic base ............. a minority of Americans ignorant enough to believe that a Wall is the answer to border security and immigration reform.


I know of no one who believes that. But there are some who consider physical barriers to not be a factor. Now, about "ignorant"......

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Check the transcript of lil donny's fake negotiation with the Speaker and Schumer:

THE PRESIDENT: You know what I’ll say: Yes, if we don’t get what we want, one way or the other -- whether it’s through you, through a military, through anything you want to call -- I will shut down the government. Absolutely.

 

So much for GOPers lying about what donny considered "negotiation". Donny's total BS assertion that more wall will enhance border security is based on donny's fear of having Rush say mean things about him, which has less than nothing to do with border security.

 

As for connecting his actions with his festering legal problems, how can you possibly think everything he does is NOT connected to his desire to keep his wrinkled tush out of jail?


Negotiating involves "This is what I need, what do you need". No lying in that just the real world in which people know that the President's name is not "lil donny" and that it has nothing to do with anything about a tush.

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@rk9152 wrote:

@Snoopy48 wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

@Snoopy48 wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

@n566192l wrote:

I just hope that Trump doesn't shut down the Government again over the Wall 😡


I just hope Nancy doesn't do it for partisan purposes again.


Are you referring to the shutdown that occurred when the Republicans had control of both houses of Congress? Please explain how Ms. Pelosi had the power to prevent the Republicans from bringing a bill passed by the House up for a vote in the Senate or how she forced Ryan to refuse to bring a bill passed nearly unanimously in the Senate up for a vote in the House.

 

Not everyone is as ignorant as Trump supporters.


Under Congressional rules the budget could not be passed without Dem votes.

 

Before throwing the word "ignorant" around, it might be wise to acquire some knowledge.


How was any Democrat supposed to vote for a bill when the Republican leadership refused to allow for a vote? 

 

The fact is is that several Democrats in each house voted for a bill to fund the government. The Senate passed a bill to fund the government nearly unanimously (which means that many Democrats voted for it) but Paul Ryan refused to allow a vote on that bill in the House. 

 

The House had also passed a bill to fund the government with many Democratic votes but Mitch McConnell refused to allow a vote on that bill. 

 

You still haven’t explained how Nancy Pelosi had such power that she was able to force Ryan and McConnell to act as they did. 

 

Before you continue to post your claim that Pelosi shut down the government for partisan purposes you might actually look at some facts. If Trump supporters actually look led at facts instead of just making up excuses maybe so many wouldn’t think them proudly ignorant.


The Leadership is not going to put up a bill that Pelosi wants and (due to Pelosi) they didn't have the votes for border security.

 

If not for partisan reasons - why is she opposed to the President's request? I would not claim she opposes border security - so why???

 

I hope that does not make me "proudly ignorant" in the eyes of "so many".


Why is Trump opposed to real, effective border security? Is it for partisan purposes? Or is it for personal reasons?

 

Since they had the votes in December to pass the bills why wouldn’t the Republicans bring them up for a vote? As McConnell said, he was not going to consider any bill that Trump wouldn’t sign. Nothing to do with Pelosi or the Democrats, just Trump and his Republican enablers.

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@rk9152 wrote:

@Snoopy48 wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

@Snoopy48 wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

@n566192l wrote:

I just hope that Trump doesn't shut down the Government again over the Wall 😡


I just hope Nancy doesn't do it for partisan purposes again.


Are you referring to the shutdown that occurred when the Republicans had control of both houses of Congress? Please explain how Ms. Pelosi had the power to prevent the Republicans from bringing a bill passed by the House up for a vote in the Senate or how she forced Ryan to refuse to bring a bill passed nearly unanimously in the Senate up for a vote in the House.

 

Not everyone is as ignorant as Trump supporters.


Under Congressional rules the budget could not be passed without Dem votes.

 

Before throwing the word "ignorant" around, it might be wise to acquire some knowledge.


How was any Democrat supposed to vote for a bill when the Republican leadership refused to allow for a vote? 

 

The fact is is that several Democrats in each house voted for a bill to fund the government. The Senate passed a bill to fund the government nearly unanimously (which means that many Democrats voted for it) but Paul Ryan refused to allow a vote on that bill in the House. 

 

The House had also passed a bill to fund the government with many Democratic votes but Mitch McConnell refused to allow a vote on that bill. 

 

You still haven’t explained how Nancy Pelosi had such power that she was able to force Ryan and McConnell to act as they did. 

 

Before you continue to post your claim that Pelosi shut down the government for partisan purposes you might actually look at some facts. If Trump supporters actually look led at facts instead of just making up excuses maybe so many wouldn’t think them proudly ignorant.


The Leadership is not going to put up a bill that Pelosi wants and (due to Pelosi) they didn't have the votes for border security.

 

If not for partisan reasons - why is she opposed to the President's request? I would not claim she opposes border security - so why???

 

I hope that does not make me "proudly ignorant" in the eyes of "so many".


Why is Trump opposed to real, effective border security? Is it for partisan purposes? Or is it for personal reasons?

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@rk9152 wrote:

@Richva wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

I know who Rush is but "Annie"???

 

Think of it this way, the President realized that then bill being offered did not allow him to fulfill his campaign promise and refused to sign it.

 

Sounds rather honorable to me.


Look at it this way. After giving the builder (McConnel) detailed instructions on what he wanted to have and what he would accept in the house while under construction, the owner (Trump) decided he had wanted a basement the day the builder was to present him with the keys to the new house.  In short, the man was a moron. 


Look at it this way - the President campaigned on building the wall.

 

Any non-moron can understand that. It does not require an analogy.


Look at it this way.  Trump is catering to his moronic base ............. a minority of Americans ignorant enough to believe that a Wall is the answer to border security and immigration reform.


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Check the transcript of lil donny's fake negotiation with the Speaker and Schumer:

THE PRESIDENT: You know what I’ll say: Yes, if we don’t get what we want, one way or the other -- whether it’s through you, through a military, through anything you want to call -- I will shut down the government. Absolutely.

 

So much for GOPers lying about what donny considered "negotiation". Donny's total BS assertion that more wall will enhance border security is based on donny's fear of having Rush say mean things about him, which has less than nothing to do with border security.

 

As for connecting his actions with his festering legal problems, how can you possibly think everything he does is NOT connected to his desire to keep his wrinkled tush out of jail?

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