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If Trump wasn't such a baby and a bully, he wouldn't have to be stuck in a corner or on his wall.  And if the Republican Party and their constituents didn't put party above and before country, we wouldn't have Baby Trump at all!

 

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It is strange to see an effort to be faithful to a campaign promise being described that way.

 

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If Trump were truly being FAITHFUL to his campaign promise he would keep "all" of that promise. 

Watch and listen below:

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=you+tube+--+who%27s+gonna+pay+for+the+wall%3f+trump&&view=detai...

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https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=you+tube+--+who%27s+gonna+pay+for+the+wall%3f+trump&view=detail...


No diversions please.

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Trump said,  "I WILL PROUDLY SHUT DOWN THE GOVERNMENT OVER MY BORDER WALL"


No he didn't.

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Yes, he did!  

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no he didn't, Schumer said it

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@LydiaN586309 wrote:

If Trump wasn't such a baby and a bully, he wouldn't have to be stuck in a corner or on his wall.  And if the Republican Party and their constituents didn't put party above and before country, we wouldn't have Baby Trump at all!

 

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@rk9152 wrote:

It is strange to see an effort to be faithful to a campaign promise being described that way.

 

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If Trump were truly being FAITHFUL to his campaign promise he would keep "all" of that promise. 

Watch and listen below:

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=you+tube+--+who%27s+gonna+pay+for+the+wall%3f+trump&&view=detai...

and

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=you+tube+--+who%27s+gonna+pay+for+the+wall%3f+trump&view=detail...

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Trump said,  "I WILL PROUDLY SHUT DOWN THE GOVERNMENT OVER MY BORDER WALL"


No he didn't.

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Yes, he did!  

Watch and listen below:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--6mq58zw4s


 

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Trump said,  "I WILL PROUDLY SHUT DOWN THE GOVERNMENT OVER MY BORDER WALL"


No he didn't.

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I know who Rush is but "Annie"???

 

Think of it this way, the President realized that then bill being offered did not allow him to fulfill his campaign promise and refused to sign it.

 

Sounds rather honorable to me.


Look at it this way. After giving the builder (McConnel) detailed instructions on what he wanted to have and what he would accept in the house while under construction, the owner (Trump) decided he had wanted a basement the day the builder was to present him with the keys to the new house.  In short, the man was a moron. 


Look at it this way - the President campaigned on building the wall.

 

Any non-moron can understand that. It does not require an analogy.


Look at it this way.  Trump is catering to his moronic base ............. a minority of Americans ignorant enough to believe that a Wall is the answer to border security and immigration reform.


I know of no one who believes that. But there are some who consider physical barriers to not be a factor. Now, about "ignorant"......


If you know "no one" that believes that then you need to broaden the scope of  who you know. The majority of Americans don't want the wall. That's reality. Yep, it takes ignorance to believe that the wall is the answer to border security and immigration reform when it isn't. NO one has apposed "border security", the wall just isn't necessary to have that.


Who do you know that this describes - "minority of Americans ignorant enough to believe that a Wall is the answer to border security and immigration reform"? I know no one.

 


Goes to shw we don't need trump's wall.


It goes to show that there is no "one size fits all" solution - a total package is needed, including physical barriers.

 

And, as to the quote - who has ever said that?

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Why is Trump opposed to real, effective border security? Is it for partisan purposes? Or is it for personal reasons?

 

Since they had the votes in December to pass the bills why wouldn’t the Republicans bring them up for a vote? As McConnell said, he was not going to consider any bill that Trump wouldn’t sign. Nothing to do with Pelosi or the Democrats, just Trump and his Republican enablers.


McConnell will not go against trump because trump placed McConnell's wife and brother-in-law in appointments. McConnell is bought and paid for, he's gott' go in 2020.


Yes, so you have said.

 

Alternate scenario - McConnell is supporting the campaign promises of the President who is of his Party.

 

I know, I know - not nearly as exciting as your back door conspiracy theory. But, we are talking politics.


Not "alternate scenario" but 'alternate reality",.You denying that trump appointed McConnell's wife and brother-in-law? McConnell owes trump for appointing his wife and brother-in-law. Wise purchase on trump's part, he bought the Senate Leader. That reality thingy gets y'a every time.


Why do you consider it not possible for McConnell to support the campaign promises that got his President elected?

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I just hope that Trump doesn't shut down the Government again over the Wall 😡


I just hope Nancy doesn't do it for partisan purposes again.


Are you referring to the shutdown that occurred when the Republicans had control of both houses of Congress? Please explain how Ms. Pelosi had the power to prevent the Republicans from bringing a bill passed by the House up for a vote in the Senate or how she forced Ryan to refuse to bring a bill passed nearly unanimously in the Senate up for a vote in the House.

 

Not everyone is as ignorant as Trump supporters.


Under Congressional rules the budget could not be passed without Dem votes.

 

Before throwing the word "ignorant" around, it might be wise to acquire some knowledge.


How was any Democrat supposed to vote for a bill when the Republican leadership refused to allow for a vote? 

 

The fact is is that several Democrats in each house voted for a bill to fund the government. The Senate passed a bill to fund the government nearly unanimously (which means that many Democrats voted for it) but Paul Ryan refused to allow a vote on that bill in the House. 

 

The House had also passed a bill to fund the government with many Democratic votes but Mitch McConnell refused to allow a vote on that bill. 

 

You still haven’t explained how Nancy Pelosi had such power that she was able to force Ryan and McConnell to act as they did. 

 

Before you continue to post your claim that Pelosi shut down the government for partisan purposes you might actually look at some facts. If Trump supporters actually look led at facts instead of just making up excuses maybe so many wouldn’t think them proudly ignorant.


The Leadership is not going to put up a bill that Pelosi wants and (due to Pelosi) they didn't have the votes for border security.

 

If not for partisan reasons - why is she opposed to the President's request? I would not claim she opposes border security - so why???

 

I hope that does not make me "proudly ignorant" in the eyes of "so many".


Why is Trump opposed to real, effective border security? Is it for partisan purposes? Or is it for personal reasons?

 

Since they had the votes in December to pass the bills why wouldn’t the Republicans bring them up for a vote? As McConnell said, he was not going to consider any bill that Trump wouldn’t sign. Nothing to do with Pelosi or the Democrats, just Trump and his Republican enablers.


They had the votes to pass the bill Pelosi wanted. I hope that answers your question.

 

It was totally bi-partisan - Trump wanted, Pelosi refused.


You are still wrong. They passed bills that were agreed to by the majority of both Democrats and Republicans. Trump whined that FOX was mean to him and he would not sign what he had agreed to earlier.

 

Are the Republicans so incompetent that a little disagreement turns them into whiney babies? Trump has proven that is true for him, but do you put all Republicans into the same category?

 

Your attempts to blame Pelosi for the failures of Trump and the Republicans is becoming ridiculous.


The bill you refer to did not have the President's requirement for border security. How many different ways are you going to dodge that?

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Who do you know that this describes - "minority of Americans ignorant enough to believe that a Wall is the answer to border security and immigration reform"? I know no one.

 


Really?  A minority of Americans voted for Trump. Many of them think a wall is top of the line technology.  I mean, they keep asking "who could get over, under, or around a good solid wall?" Then they mention how their chihuahua has not managed to overcome their backyard fence in the last 3 years. I only know the CBP offices in New Mexico put out a notice not to bring in any more ladders from the walls which exist because they were running out of storage room between the garages for them. There was actually some discussion of having a sale but somebody pointed out the optics of having one show up at a barrier after being purchased from CBP. 


Try to avoid the nonsensical gibberish as above and try to point out who has ever said, "a Wall is the answer to border security and immigration reform" as you claim exists.

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