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The administration is once again in "wiggle and squirm" mode, trying to pretend their policies are not responsible for ANYTHING those policies cause. Perhaps if lil donny had only spent $100,000,000 on his inaugrial balls and given the other $52,000,000 to the border patrol for bottled water...nah, then lil donny would not have had the most expensive drunken bash in the history of taxpayer funded goat-ropes.


Might as well throw the Reagan tax cuts and DL moving to GA - they would have as much relevance to the topic.

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This US Representative Knows What It's Like To Escape Violence & Poverty in Central America

She Did It!

 

A 7-year-old migrant girl from Guatemala died while in CBP custody after not receiving medical care for 90 minutes.

 

The Trump administration blames her father,

 

SHE went several days without 

food or water.

Shall we blame our government or our President???

 


Lets ask the Trump Cult a Hypothetical

 

Is there anything Trump could ever do or say that he or you would agree he was responsible for after the fact

 

 Can we agree that the President did not place her on that bus? I think it would be safe to do that without danger of being called a "Trump Cult" member.

 

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And how are you going to do that when you are on a bus, out in the middle of nowhere? 

 

Well for one don't separate parents and children.

 

For another do what we do on any job, provide a cooler of water.

 

On a bus in 105 + heat without water?

 

With no parent to look after her?

 

Evidently no one else did either. 

Her father was with her on the bus. President Trump did not put her on the bus 

 


 

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The wall is your friend.


Only if you're obsessed with racketball.

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Mick posted..

The - BERLIN WALL - The barrier included guard towers placed along large concrete walls,[4] accompanied by a wide area (later known as the "death strip") that contained anti-vehicle trenches, "fakir beds" and other defenses



The - BERLIN WALL - was only 27 Miles Long and was located inside a populated City



The - BERLIN WALL - was built in appox.1960 was taken down in approx. 1990



Even with all the Guards - Machine Guns - Barbed Wire - Concrete Barriers - over a 30 year Period - at least 10,000 people tried to get over under through the - BERLIN WALL

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Berlin Wall
WALL, BERLIN, GERMANY
WRITTEN BY: The Editors of Encyclopaedia Britannica
See Article History
Alternative Title: Berliner Mauer
Berlin Wall, German Berliner Mauer, barrier that surrounded West Berlin and prevented access to it from East Berlin and adjacent areas of East Germany during the period from 1961 to 1989. In the years between 1949 and 1961, about 2.5 million East Germans had fled from East to West Germany, including steadily rising numbers of skilled workers, professionals, and intellectuals. Their loss threatened to destroy the economic viability of the East German state. In response, East Germany built a barrier to close off East Germans’ access to West Berlin and hence West Germany. That barrier, the Berlin Wall, was first erected on the night of August 12–13, 1961, as the result of a decree passed on August 12 by the East German Volkskammer (“Peoples’ Chamber”). The original wall, built of barbed wire and cinder blocks, was subsequently replaced by a series of concrete walls (up to 15 feet [5 metres] high) that were topped with barbed wire and guarded with watchtowers, gun emplacements, and mines. By the 1980s that system of walls, electrified fences, and fortifications extended 28 miles (45 km) through Berlin, dividing the two parts of the city, and extended a further 75 miles (120 km) around West Berlin, separating it from the rest of East Germany.

The Berlin Wall came to symbolize the Cold War’s division of East from West Germany and of eastern from western Europe. About 5,000 East Germans managed to cross the Berlin Wall (by various means) and reach West Berlin safely, while another 5,000 were captured by East German authorities in the attempt and 191 more were killed during the actual crossing of the wall.



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It was 75 miles not just 27 like Mick posted.

The wall was to keep people in East Germany....the wall on our southern boarder is to keep illegals out of our country...not hard to see the difference.

Sorry, Mick but walls do work..you are wrong again...

Border walls work. Yuma sector proves it.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2017/08/22/homeland-security-secretary-border-walls-work-yuma...

A bipartisan effort resulted in a wall that has cut the number of illegal immigrant apprehensions to a 10th of what it was in 2006.

Again this thread .."Trump Tries Cages Tear Gas Now Killing Immigrants" has three lies in it...a hat trick ..a hockey term.

1...Trump Tries Cages...if you want to call them that ..they are the same holding areas our country has used for long before Trump

2...Tear Gas..used by Border Patrol to keep the illegals from busting through our boarder...also used be the Obama Administration..needed.

3.. Killing Immigrants.....a out and out lie.
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@mickstuder wrote:

@KidBoy2 wrote:
Trump Tries Cages Tear Gas Now Killing Immigrants

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Another thread with it's title that is not true....business as usual.

How sad when its about a young girl that is dead!


Its sad when anyone dies but it happens.....like this....




Flu and Pneumonia claim life of Missoula 6-year-old ...2 weeks ago.

https://nbcmontana.com/news/local/flu-and-pneumonia-claim-life-of-missoula-6-year-old

MISSOULA, Mont. — A Missoula family is in mourning after their 6-year-old daughter passed away Saturday. They tell NBC Montana she died after a hard battle with influenza B and Pneumonia at Community Medical Center.


Allison was in Kindergarten at Russell Elementary in Missoula.

The family will be having a memorial service for her Monday night at the Open Door Baptist Church at 7 pm. Flowers can be sent to the church. The family says the service is open to anyone who would like to attend.


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Want to blame Trump for her death Mick?




In the Trump World of Alternative Reality where unfortunately so many on this Forum Reside

 

What's Really Sad is to see how so many live their Lives in Two different Dimensions

 

Any reasonable person understands that in their Normal Everyday World that a Majority of us reside in - whether it be our Professional Career Business or Personal Lives or The Clubs & Organizations We Belong to

 

The Person or Persons Delegated the Responsibilty to Make Policy - are responsible for that Policy

 

If the Policy is ill-conceived - puts others at risk either by design or because of the incompetence of the people given hired to perform the task & to implement & manage the policy

 

The Policy Maker is just as responsible if not more than the people on the Front Lines who carry out the Details of the Policy

 

I'll bet you react the exact same way in everything else you do - except when it involves Trump

 

Joe Paterno who has the most victories of any coach in major college football history was fired from Penn State -  not because he Molested any Boys - Because he was the Head Coach when the Culture of Abuse was happening

 

On the US Southwest Border - Trump is operating a Culture of Cruelty

 

In this Specific Thread - I posted a Well-known Video showing US Customs & Border Patrol Agents destroying Food & Water left in the Desert by Volunteers from - Church Groups - Humanitarian Aid Organizations - etc.

 

In the Video you can see the Enthusiasm & Joy displayed by these US Customs & Border Patrol Agents knowing all along what they were doing could cost someone their life - the Desert is scattered with the decomposed bodies of Migrants - to be fair - the Video was actually shot during the Obama Administration -

 

Obama had no where near the same Exagerated Inhumane - Nothing is Off the Table Attitude - towards Border Security & Immigration Enforcement as Trump currently does - if you give people under your command

 

A Policy That Starts With - Everything is Off the Table - the staff on the ground are going to interpret that in many different way - it's referred to in the Military & in some Law Enforcement as - Field Expediency - the most vile evil & corrupt in the CBP are going to YES look at it as a Green Light to maybe not actually Murder someone if the First Degree but they certainly would consider witholding or not expediting Medical Care

 

Thats What Happened Here

 

We see this phenomena on the Streets of America with Law Enforcement - EVERYDAY!

 

One can only imgaine what is being done out in the Desert where Video Taping the Activities of CBP Agents is No Longer Allowed

 

I'll Leave you with this information to Ponder

 

Trump routinely says things that aren’t
true. Few Americans believe him.

Source - https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2018/politics/political-knowledge-poll-trump-falsehoods/?nor...

 

The media consumers most likely to believe Trump’s falsehoods? Fox News watchers.

 

Source - https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2018/12/14/media-consumers-most-likely-believe-trumps-falseh...

 

 


How does that long and colorful rant relate to the wild claim about "now killing immigrants"?  The Wapo didn't say that.

 

And, as always - "Fox"????


No - I said that & once the Democrats in the House Investigate - most reasonable people will agree - this was Murder & it will be added to all the other High Crimes & Misdemeanors Trump will be convicted of

 

 

( " China if You're Listening - Get Trumps Tax Returns " )

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The administration is once again in "wiggle and squirm" mode, trying to pretend their policies are not responsible for ANYTHING those policies cause. Perhaps if lil donny had only spent $100,000,000 on his inaugrial balls and given the other $52,000,000 to the border patrol for bottled water...nah, then lil donny would not have had the most expensive drunken bash in the history of taxpayer funded goat-ropes.

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@rk9152 wrote:

@mickstuder wrote:

This US Representative Knows What It's Like To Escape Violence & Poverty in Central America

She Did It!

 

A 7-year-old migrant girl from Guatemala died while in CBP custody after not receiving medical care for 90 minutes.

 

The Trump administration blames her father,

 

SHE went several days without 

food or water.

Shall we blame our government or our President???

 


Lets ask the Trump Cult a Hypothetical

 

Is there anything Trump could ever do or say that he or you would agree he was responsible for after the fact

 

Watch the Video of the CBP Agents destroying water left by volunteers in the Desert - could this 7 year old Girl be a victim of expecting Water Stations and them being destroyed when they arrived

 

The CBP Agents had enough time to communicate with the Father in a Language he could not understand about her health - why didn't they use the US Army's Medical Professionals to examone her properly - you know the Hundreds of US ARmy Medics deployed with the 7500 US Army Soldiers to the Southern Border at a cost of Millions to the US Tax Payers?

 

Why could they not have requested the same Helicopter that eventually flew her to the Hospital be flown to Antelope Wells to pick her up instead of sticking her on a bus for a 90 minute ride to get ot the Helicopter and then flying her to the Hospital?

 

This has Trumps

 

Nothing is OFF the TABLE - all over it

 

This has Trump - Cages weren;t enough - all over it 

 

This Has Trumps - seperating Parents from Kids permanently for their lifetimes weren;t enough - all over it 

 

This has Trumps none of the Above Worked as a Deterrent so now we need to pull Killing them of our table of tools & tricks and see if that does the job by sending a new message to those Raping  Murdering 7 Year Old MS-13 Members

 

 

 

 

 

 

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And how are you going to do that when you are on a bus, out in the middle of nowhere? 

 

Well for one don't separate parents and children.

 

For another do what we do on any job, provide a cooler of water.

 

On a bus in 105 + heat without water?

 

With no parent to look after her?

 

Evidently no one else did either. 

 

 

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@mickstuder wrote:

@NOTHAPPENING wrote:

The wall is your friend.


The - BERLIN WALL - The barrier included guard towers placed along large concrete walls,[4] accompanied by a wide area (later known as the "death strip") that contained anti-vehicle trenches, "fakir beds" and other defenses

 

The - BERLIN WALL - was only 27 Miles Long and was located inside a populated City

 

The - BERLIN WALL - was built in appox.1960 was taken down in approx. 1990

 

Even with all the Guards - Machine Guns - Barbed Wire - Concrete Barriers - over a 30 year Period - at least 10,000 people tried to get over under through the - BERLIN WALL

 

More than 5000 succeeded - Walls Do Not Work

 

Source - https://www.nytimes.com/1989/11/10/world/camor-east-berlin-wall-monument-cold-war-triumphs-tragedies...

 

 It has been suggested that Obama, both Clintons, Schumer, etal preferred a fence - do you think that would be better??

 

Or, do you have a better idea for insuring border security?

 

 


 

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