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This thread is a perfect example of how Trump Cult members view the world. The never hold their idol and hero in the White House accountable and responsible. All of those anti-American plots we keep reading about cannot possibly be coming from Comrade Trump. It's always a plot by someone else who's trying to bring down their Supreme Leader.


"Cult", "Supreme Leader", "Comrade Trump", "idol", "hero" - but no dealing with the reality that the stuff under discussion preceded the Trump Presidency.

 

Seems like just satisfying the need to spout hatred rather than addressing the issues as stated.


The one you missed is "Unidicted co-conspirator".  But.........wait for it. 


No, that one wasn't there. maybe the spelcheck took it out.

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@rk9152 wrote:

"Cult", "Supreme Leader", "Comrade Trump", "idol", "hero" - but no dealing with the reality that the stuff under discussion preceded the Trump Presidency.

 

Seems like just satisfying the need to spout hatred rather than addressing the issues as stated.


I actually think Trump's acquaintances and fellow Republicans have a better set of descriptions. Of course we have Rex Tillerson's "What a moron", Reince Prebus calling him an "idiot", and then Stormy Daniels saying he resembled some kind of mushroom.  I am not sure I understand that last one, could someone explain it to me? 

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@rk9152 wrote:

@CriticalThinking wrote:

This thread is a perfect example of how Trump Cult members view the world. The never hold their idol and hero in the White House accountable and responsible. All of those anti-American plots we keep reading about cannot possibly be coming from Comrade Trump. It's always a plot by someone else who's trying to bring down their Supreme Leader.


"Cult", "Supreme Leader", "Comrade Trump", "idol", "hero" - but no dealing with the reality that the stuff under discussion preceded the Trump Presidency.

 

Seems like just satisfying the need to spout hatred rather than addressing the issues as stated.


The one you missed is "Unidicted co-conspirator".  But.........wait for it. 

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@CriticalThinking wrote:

This thread is a perfect example of how Trump Cult members view the world. The never hold their idol and hero in the White House accountable and responsible. All of those anti-American plots we keep reading about cannot possibly be coming from Comrade Trump. It's always a plot by someone else who's trying to bring down their Supreme Leader.


"Cult", "Supreme Leader", "Comrade Trump", "idol", "hero" - but no dealing with the reality that the stuff under discussion preceded the Trump Presidency.

 

Seems like just satisfying the need to spout hatred rather than addressing the issues as stated.

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The previous post is another great example of my argument. Trump Cult members never hold their Supreme Leader accountable and responsible, they always blame someone else.

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@CriticalThinking wrote:

This thread is a perfect example of how Trump Cult members view the world. The never hold their idol and hero in the White House accountable and responsible. All of those anti-American plots we keep reading about cannot possibly be coming from Comrade Trump. It's always a plot by someone else who's trying to bring down their Supreme Leader.


Considering the events under discussion precede the election of President Trump it is reasonable that the actions were not originated by President Trump but the Administration of another President.

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This thread is a perfect example of how Trump Cult members view the world. The never hold their idol and hero in the White House accountable and responsible. All of those anti-American plots we keep reading about cannot possibly be coming from Comrade Trump. It's always a plot by someone else who's trying to bring down their Supreme Leader.

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@john258 wrote:

I hate to tell all but you are watching an International mob play out. Putin and Trump are part of that mob. This week connected a lot of the dots. Main item so far was Trump tower in Moscow Russia. The deal was finalized but the Russian bank was on the US banned list so Trump could not accept the money from them. The sanctions had to be lifted and so far you see Flynn, Cohen, Manafort, Russians who have been charged all working on that. Get Trump elected, Trump can build the Trump tower, and Putin gets his 50 million penthouse, plus a lot of Russian money gets laundered plus other payoffs. I am sure there is more than this but Muller will tell us the full story.


It may well be, failing to find the much heralded "Russian collusion" involving candidate Trump, that Mueller may have to investigate the business dealings of businessman Trump to justify his activities.

 

And it may work - after all, his mission is to "Get Trump by what ever means necessary".

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jimc cut n' pasted with my Truth inserts:

Interviews with more than 50 witnesses in the Trump case and reviews of hundreds of pages of court filings confirm the following:

 

  • At least six people with long-established ties to the FBI or to U.S. and Western intelligence made entrees to key figures in the Trump business organization or his presidential campaign between March and October 2016; If this is alll in the public record NAME AT LEAST SIX. Else admit this is just some Joe McCarthy tactics so loved by GOPers Is it your point that the Hill writer lied?
  • Campaign figures were contacted by at least two Russian figures whose justification for being in the United States were rare law enforcement parole visas controlled by the U.S. Justice Department; Lying about spies to get them into the country is a long established practice which we have tolerated (and used) for generations. We KNEW Natalia Veselnitskaya was KGB/FSB and she admitted it. You seem to be accepting of the Obama Administration believing the lies to let her in but fault the campaign for not challenging them.
  • Intelligence or diplomatic figures connected to two of America’s closest allies, Britain and Australia, gathered intelligence or instigated contacts with Trump campaign figures during that same period; George Papadopoulos, a high ranking Trump acvisor, got drunk in a London bar and told the Australian Ambasador Trump had gotten help from Russia to smear Hillary. The Ambasador told his intelligence people who shared it with the Brits who told the CIA. Not really high ranking. But know he didn't say that. He said that he heard that the Russians had such information. The more interesting issue is why was he told that by Stefen Halper? There is your "plot".
  • Some of the conversations and contacts that were monitored occurred on foreign soil and resulted in the creation of transcripts; See above. When honest government workers or private investigators hear about Treason, they take notes and share them with the authorities. Fine, did the authorities investigate Halper. After all, he was the originator of the story, not Papadopoulos.
  • Nearly all of the contacts involved the same overture — a discussion about possible political dirt or stolen emails harmful to Hillary Clinton, or unsolicited business in London or Moscow; True - NONE of them was about adoptions, ALL involved getting Russia to help smear Hillary or promote Trump Realestate scams that were thinly disguised bribes to Putin. Yes, he offered dirt, they offered to listen - problem?? All true 'til your made up "bribes" part.
  • Several of the contacts occurred before the FBI formally launched a legally authorized probe into the Trump campaign and possible collusion on July 31, 2016. Trump wishes the FBI would ONLY investigate his nefarious dealings AFTER they lauanch a formal probe into his filth. Not sure how GOPers think the FBI should obtain information on criminal activities if they can't investigate based on information they receive from other intelligence services WITHOUT a "legally authorized probe". And now it all falls apart with the mind reading claims.
 

 

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@Roxanna35 wrote:

Hey Jim   wasn't aware that you really liked our enemies that much. PUtin and Russia have always represented what this country will never be. 

But  guess that now is the time to change sides. sorry. but I still like the Democracy that we may be loosing. 

 


Any thoughts on the content of the topic article? It seems to show an attack on Democracy - but not by Putin (or PUtin).

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