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Pursuing the issue in Court and getting a postive ruling will allow action to be taken against those continuing to publish the material and making the weapons and selling them

 

It's a question of Right and Wrong not perfection

 

 


The material is already out there on the internet, and now its going to be an attempt to suppress free speech, etc.  Of course it won't be settled until it reaches the Supreme Court.

 

Then again the instructions are out there on the internet around the world in the public domain. 

 

But are you aware of the cost of the equipment to make these guns?  I doubt you'll be able to drop in the nearest Office Depot to buy one, plus obtaining the materials to make one that won't blow up when you pull the trigger.


A 3D Printer capable of making a fully functioning 3D Gun costs around a 1/2 million

 

The first supercomputer, the Control Data Corporation (CDC) 6600, only had a single CPU. Released in 1964, the CDC 6600 was actually fairly small — about the size of four filing cabinets. It cost $8 million

 

Today a typical Smartphone has more Computing Power

 

 

 

 

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Wilson's now a Hero of the NRA, and Donny leads the NRAGOP so OF COURSE he'd promote undetectable guns that are only useful for assassinations. He knows all the potential assassins are Republican, so he figures he's safe.


Success!!!!  You were able to get all your favorite clichés into just a few short sentences!!! 

 

Doubt the NRA is happy with these developments since we should remember that firearm manufacturers are also prominent members. 

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@mickstuder wrote:


Pursuing the issue in Court and getting a postive ruling will allow action to be taken against those continuing to publish the material and making the weapons and selling them

 

It's a question of Right and Wrong not perfection

 

 


The material is already out there on the internet, and now its going to be an attempt to suppress free speech, etc.  Of course it won't be settled until it reaches the Supreme Court.

 

Then again the instructions are out there on the internet around the world in the public domain. 

 

But are you aware of the cost of the equipment to make these guns?  I doubt you'll be able to drop in the nearest Office Depot to buy one, plus obtaining the materials to make one that won't blow up when you pull the trigger.

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Wilson's now a Hero of the NRA, and Donny leads the NRAGOP so OF COURSE he'd promote undetectable guns that are only useful for assassinations. He knows all the potential assassins are Republican, so he figures he's safe.

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@mickstuder wrote:


Pursuing the issue in Court and getting a postive ruling will allow action to be taken against those continuing to publish the material and making the weapons and selling them

 

It's a question of Right and Wrong not perfection

 

 


Consider the original suit has been on-going for five years until this settlement was reached.  So how long will these from the states?  Can they block internet sites from individual states?  Ever heard of the TOR browser?

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 for my homemade black powder cannon that fires a bowling ball over 2 miles - necessary for hunting T-Rex, doncha know...

Sure Alferd, sure.

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Try this on for size

 

States seek to block instructions for making plastic guns

 

 


And of course Wilson and his company are escalating uploading the program and instructions, beating the deadline of August 1 in order to meet that threat.  Once the information is on the internet it is in the public domain and all the lawsuits in the world is useless.

 

In any event this is putting up a gate after the horses got out.  He has already posted the instructions back in 2013 and it has been downloaded over 100,000 times.  And being electronic media, no telling how many copies has been made of those downloads.

 

But the laws are just like swatting flies, if anyone wants a firearm, there are plenty of mavericks floating around that a person shouldn't have to go through the trouble of finding a printer to make one.  Those printers are not cheap.


Pursuing the issue in Court and getting a postive ruling will allow action to be taken against those continuing to publish the material and making the weapons and selling them

 

It's a question of Right and Wrong not perfection

 

 

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So much for our personal safety - those metal detectors in airports and schools are now USELESS thanks the the NRAGOP.


If you would read the links you would find that it was more the one individual along with organizations like the ACLU that pushed the First and Second Amendment, not your NRAGOP.

 

But you did get the chance to jump in with that acronym didn't you, plus including Der Thumper. 

 

And those printed guns do include a metal firing pin which should return a unique signature.


A metal firing pin is unnecessary.

There are many plastics related to nylon that are more than tough enough to exert sufficient force for a single deformation of a small pistol primer resulting in ignition of the propellant.

Can a metal firing pin be printed?  Nope - just like various "tough as metal polymers", 3d printing is not yet capable of printing either a metal or "tough as metal" firing pin - yet...

As for a "metallic signature" - the brass cartridge casing and lead/copper projectile is more than sufficient for detectability...

 

A 3D printed pistol - given the current state of the art of 3D printing technology using "plastic" and related materials - is at this point - considered to be primarily a single shot - single usage firearm suitable for last ditch defense against a crazed attacker - most likely for self defense against a dangerously deranged life-threatening trump supporter...

 

Serial numbers are not required for private citizen made and not comercially sold firearms - just as a serial number was not required by law for my homemade black powder cannon that fires a bowling ball over 2 miles - necessary for hunting T-Rex, doncha know...

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@Olderscout66 wrote:


So much for our personal safety - those metal detectors in airports and schools are now USELESS thanks the the NRAGOP.


If you would read the links you would find that it was more the one individual along with organizations like the ACLU that pushed the First and Second Amendment, not your NRAGOP.

 

But you did get the chance to jump in with that acronym didn't you, plus including Der Thumper. 

 

And those printed guns do include a metal firing pin which should return a unique signature.

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How about this... Why in the word  would a Texas Company put these instructions on the net? Nancy 


Perhaps you should read some of the links that has been posted.

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