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What a Difference a Few Days and some Really Bad Press makes

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It shots down your false thread subject.

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3D printers capable of making guns cost in excess of $100,000 and the equivalent 3D printers that are capable of making metal guns are even higher. Why would any liberal thug want to invest this much money when in the inner cities they are available for a couple of hundred dollars, most them stolen?

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Trump OK's Printing of 3D Guns at home....

Another false thread subject ...Trump did not OK printing of 3D guns.

Trump welcomes federal court decision halting 3D-printed guns, his spokeswoman says

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/08/01/trump-welcomes-federal-court-decision-haltin...

WASHINGTON – President Donald Trump welcomes a federal court decision that temporarily blocks a deal – reached by his own administration – that would make 3D-printable guns widely accessible online, White House spokesperson Sarah Sanders said Wednesday.

Sanders said Trump didn't sign off on the settlement that would have allowed the chief promoter of the designs, Cody Wilson and his company, Defense Distribution, to upload plastic gun-making instructions, starting Wednesday, if a federal judge had not issued a temporary restraining order.

"The Department of Justice made a deal without the president’s approval," Sanders said. "On those regards, the president’s glad this effort was delayed to give more time to review the issue and this administration supports the decades-old legislation already on the books that prohibits the ownership of a wholly plastic gun.”

In a Tuesday tweet, Trump said he was "looking into" easy access to blueprints for 3D-printable guns, saying the idea "doesn't seem to make much sense."

The National Rifle Association said even if the blueprints are available, the plastic guns will still be illegal. But gun-control advocates say 3D-printable guns could worsen the epidemic of gun violence in the U.S. and make it easier for terrorists to gain access to a raft of deadly firearms.

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"The National Rifle Association said even if the blueprints are available, the plastic guns will still be illegal."

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What a Difference a Few Days and some Really Bad Press makes

 

1. May 2013 - the State Department under the Obama administration, the State Department’s Office of Defense Trade Controls Compliance wrote to Defense Distributed founder Cody Wilson demanding the removal of those files from the internet.

 

The State Department’s argument was that the information presented on Defense Distributed’s website constituted an “export” of weapons in violation of the Arms Export Control Act and International Traffic in Arms Regulations (ITAR):

 

2. Cody Wilson Sued - he filed a lawsuit in the Western District of Texas against the State Department seeking a preliminary injunction that would allow Defense Distributed to continue to publishing the Liberator schematics online.

 

3. The Western District of Texas court denied the request, and Defense Distributed appealed that ruling to the 5th Circuit Federal Court, which also denied the request. Defense Distributed then appealed that decision to the U.S. Supreme Court.

 

The Supreme Court declined to hear arguments on the case on 8 January 2018, essentially upholding the 5th Circuit Court’s decision.

 

4. On 10 July 2018 - under the Trump Administration - The State Department Settles with Defense Distributed

 

Defense Distributed and the Second Amendment Foundation announced that they had

 

accepted a settlement agreement with the State Department.

 

That agreement, in effect, will allow Defense Distributed to post designs for 3D printed guns online, and as part of the agreement the State Department will be required to issue a letter specifically stating that 3D printed designs do not fall under ITAR rules:

 

5. [The State Department shall produce] a letter to Plaintiffs on or before July 27, 2018, signed by the Deputy Assistant Secretary for Defense Trade Controls, advising that the Published Files, Ghost Gunner Files, and CAD Files are approved for public release (i.e., unlimited distribution) in any form and are exempt from the export licensing requirements of the ITAR …

 

Trumps State Dept Also Agreed to Reimburse Cody Wilson - $40,000 in Legal Fees

 

6. Under terms of the settlement, the government has agreed to waive its prior restraint against the plaintiffs, allowing them to freely publish the 3-D files and other information at issue. The government has also agreed to pay a significant portion of the plaintiffs’ attorney’s fees … Significantly, the government expressly acknowledges that non-automatic firearms up to .50-caliber — including modern semi-auto sporting rifles such as the popular AR-15 and similar firearms — are not inherently military.

 

7. July 30th 2018 - A coalition of attorneys general from eight states and the District of Columbia filed a lawsuit against the Trump administration on Monday to stop a Texas-based company from publishing instructions for 3D-printed guns on its website. 

 

8. The new lawsuit against the State Department was filed in Seattle, Wash., federal court by Washington state Attorney General Bob Ferguson, along with New York, New Jersey, Massachusetts, Connecticut, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Oregon, Maryland and the District of Columbia.

 

Ferguson has asked the court for a nationwide temporary restraining order to bar the administration from lifting export-control restrictions, a decision he contends is an "about face" reversal from the department's previous position. And, he is seeking "to prevent Defense Distributed posting the downloadable guns online."

 

He also argues that the State Department's actions violate the Administrative Procedure Act, by neglecting to inform Congress of the changes, in addition to state's rights under the 10th Amendment.

 

9. July 31 at 7:24 PM - A federal judge has blocked the public availability of blueprints that provide instructions for making guns using 3-D printers, just hours before the documents were expected to be published online.

 

U.S. District Court Judge Robert S. Lasnik granted a temporary restraining order Tuesday night barring a trove of downloadable information about creating the do-it-yourself weapons.

 

10. Aug. 1, 2018 - Trump Feigns Outrage in a Tweetand the NRA puts on their own Dog & Pony Show

 

And the Trump Cult Swallows it all

 

Source - https://www.snopes.com/news/2018/07/26/3d-printed-guns-legal/

 

Source - http://joshblackman.com/blog/2018/07/10/doj-second-amendment-foundation-reach-settlement-in-defense-...

 

Source - https://www.npr.org/2018/07/30/634177862/attorneys-general-sue-trump-administration-to-block-3d-prin...

 

 

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Trump OK's Printing of 3D Guns at home....

Another false thread subject ...Trump did not OK printing of 3D guns.





Trump welcomes federal court decision halting 3D-printed guns, his spokeswoman says

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/08/01/trump-welcomes-federal-court-decision-haltin...

WASHINGTON – President Donald Trump welcomes a federal court decision that temporarily blocks a deal – reached by his own administration – that would make 3D-printable guns widely accessible online, White House spokesperson Sarah Sanders said Wednesday.

Sanders said Trump didn't sign off on the settlement that would have allowed the chief promoter of the designs, Cody Wilson and his company, Defense Distribution, to upload plastic gun-making instructions, starting Wednesday, if a federal judge had not issued a temporary restraining order.

"The Department of Justice made a deal without the president’s approval," Sanders said. "On those regards, the president’s glad this effort was delayed to give more time to review the issue and this administration supports the decades-old legislation already on the books that prohibits the ownership of a wholly plastic gun.”

In a Tuesday tweet, Trump said he was "looking into" easy access to blueprints for 3D-printable guns, saying the idea "doesn't seem to make much sense."

The National Rifle Association said even if the blueprints are available, the plastic guns will still be illegal. But gun-control advocates say 3D-printable guns could worsen the epidemic of gun violence in the U.S. and make it easier for terrorists to gain access to a raft of deadly firearms.

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"The National Rifle Association said even if the blueprints are available, the plastic guns will still be illegal."

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Vaya Con Hoevos?  What would you call that?

 

Yet another misspelling...

 

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For those that don't want plastic guns, try and make metal ones using the same technology:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jt1DqOE8MdQ

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Is this exchange yet another example of "can't prevail in discussion using fact based logic - but sinks to childish grade school level personal insults/attacks"?

 

Vaya Con Huevos


Speaking of childish....Vaya Con Hoevos?  What would you call that?

 

And where is the fact based logic?  Unsubstantiated claims on an anonymous discussion group? 

 

And completely off-topic posts?

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@alferdpacker wrote:

 


Yep - I'll let an impartial unbiased person compare yours and mine - you ARE going to present one aren't you?


Have a good day Alferd.  Whenever  we can verify your 'whatever anyone else can post, you or your relatives have done better.'  Reminds me of Walter Mitty.


Is this exchange yet another example of "can't prevail in discussion using fact based logic - but sinks to childish grade school level personal insults/attacks"?

 

Vaya Con Huevos

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Yep - I'll let an impartial unbiased person compare yours and mine - you ARE going to present one aren't you?


Have a good day Alferd.  Whenever  we can verify your 'whatever anyone else can post, you or your relatives have done better.'  Reminds me of Walter Mitty.

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@TxGrandpa2 wrote:

@alferdpacker

 

Had a little experience with weapons myself.

 

Have a good day Alferd with your whatever anyone can do  you can do better.   I'll wait for your autobiography with confirmed experiences.


Yep - I'll let an impartial unbiased person compare yours and mine - you ARE going to present one - with empirical fact-based proofs - aren't you?

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