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States Sue Generic Drug Makers Over Alleged Price-Fixing Schemes

 

BOSTON (AP) — Attorneys general from more than 40 states are alleging the nation’s largest generic drug manufacturers conspired to artificially inflate and manipulate prices for more than 100 different generic drugs, including treatments for diabetes, cancer, arthritis and other medical conditions.

 

The lawsuit, filed in federal court in Connecticut on Friday, also names 15 individual senior executives responsible for sales, marketing and pricing.

Connecticut Attorney General William Tong, a Democrat, said investigators obtained evidence implicating 20 firms.

 

“We have hard evidence that shows the generic drug industry perpetrated a multibillion dollar fraud on the American people,” Tong said. “We have emails, text messages, telephone records and former company insiders that we believe will prove a multi-year conspiracy to fix prices and divide market share for huge numbers of generic drugs.”

 

Tong said the investigation had uncovered a primary reason why the cost of health care — and specifically generic prescription drugs — has been so high in this country.

 

Source - https://www.huffpost.com/entry/drug-prices-states-sue_n_5cd79844e4b054da4e8a9a70

 

 

 


The ONLY way to get Big Pharma (or any of our Corporat Oligarchies)to behave like reasonable human beings will be to haul them into court, convict them of felony crimes, fine them out of their trustfunds and send them away to live with a 300lb room mate who thinks their new name will be "Nancy".

 

To do that, we must first create laws AGAINST the huge frauds they perpitrate

 

and to do THAT we must get the GOPers out of elected office.


Since the lawsuit has already been filed, it would appear there is no need to get rid of the GOP.

 

 



If we get rid of the GOPers we can have NATIONAL laws against the kind of fraud that has been perpetrated on the American Public for the last several decades. In fact, we can follow the lead of the rest of the World's Democracies and regulate the pharmaceutical industry so the price Americans pay is the lowest the American companies charge anywhere. Keep the GOPers keep the fraud.


The issue is being dealt with very effectively. No need to go to your "One Party System".

 

So the question comes up - do you want the problem dealt with or are you looking for a total redo of our very successful Nation?


Well if that's the case - can you provide the Millions of Elderly Americans who belong to AARP a list of all the Drugs who's Costs have decreased as a result of this Effective Method of dealing with the Daily Increases in the cost of their Pharmaceuticals?

 

 


The situation is being dealt with. If you were following the discussion before commenting you would know that the lawsuit was filed last Friday. So, I have no way of listing any drugs that have gone down in price as a result of less than a week of legal action - sorry "Millions of Elderly Americans who belong to AARP".
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A prerequisite to an intelligent response is reading the post that was being referred to.


Ok so you've proven my reading skills need honing - so that takes care of BMI's

No - it is the desire to attack first, think second that need attending to.

 

People Who Attack First and Ask Questions Later - Typically Live To Fight Another Day & Finding One Grain of Sand Doesn't Necessarliy Reveal a Entire Beach

Sounds like an argument to have no idea what is being discussed before offering one's one cent.

 

Regardless - Lawsuits only determine Guilt or Innocence

Not so, that is criminal actions. Being sued like this is often the best remedy for a situation because it hits them in the pocketbook.

 

Oh you mean like the Thousands of Law Suits That Have Changed Trump the Mutes Behavior - Didn;t Conservatives used to be the ones always calling for Tort Reform - Now your advocating Wacking them in the Pocketbook as the remedy for everything

Oh I mean like the State dealing with Corporations overcharging the citizens of that State.

 

BTW: Then Do You Support the House Committee Chairman Fining Trump $25,000 for everyday he refuses to comply with Each Subpoena?

 

I don't believe that has anything to do with the prices charged for generic drugs (your complaint).

 

Legislation is required to more strongly disincentivize

See above. Nothing is stronger the a hit in the pocketbook.

 

See Above

Ditto

 

Where is the Mute Trump on these Issues

In DC the last I heard.

 

Why do we need PBM's

I have no idea - that is not my decision.

 

Why are US Rx Prices Double & Triple most other Major Countries for the same exact Medicine

A good question being addressed by the lawsuits

 

How is a finding of Guilt in this Specific Case in and of itself going to automatically start controlling increases or lowering Costs?

Again, you seem totally unfamiliar with the situation. Lawsuits of this type do not end up with "guilty", they end up with "And pay the victims X dollars".

 

It's simply another illustration of the inability of the Entire US Government to Govern Effectively

 

AND

 

The Level of Corporate Greed - Where Billions in Profit are No Longer Satisfying - Trillions are needed

All of that is irrelevant - it is being dealt with - relax.

 

 

 

 

 


 


 


 

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@rk9152 wrote:

@Olderscout66 wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

@Olderscout66 wrote:

@mickstuder wrote:

States Sue Generic Drug Makers Over Alleged Price-Fixing Schemes

 

BOSTON (AP) — Attorneys general from more than 40 states are alleging the nation’s largest generic drug manufacturers conspired to artificially inflate and manipulate prices for more than 100 different generic drugs, including treatments for diabetes, cancer, arthritis and other medical conditions.

 

The lawsuit, filed in federal court in Connecticut on Friday, also names 15 individual senior executives responsible for sales, marketing and pricing.

Connecticut Attorney General William Tong, a Democrat, said investigators obtained evidence implicating 20 firms.

 

“We have hard evidence that shows the generic drug industry perpetrated a multibillion dollar fraud on the American people,” Tong said. “We have emails, text messages, telephone records and former company insiders that we believe will prove a multi-year conspiracy to fix prices and divide market share for huge numbers of generic drugs.”

 

Tong said the investigation had uncovered a primary reason why the cost of health care — and specifically generic prescription drugs — has been so high in this country.

 

Source - https://www.huffpost.com/entry/drug-prices-states-sue_n_5cd79844e4b054da4e8a9a70

 

 

 


The ONLY way to get Big Pharma (or any of our Corporat Oligarchies)to behave like reasonable human beings will be to haul them into court, convict them of felony crimes, fine them out of their trustfunds and send them away to live with a 300lb room mate who thinks their new name will be "Nancy".

 

To do that, we must first create laws AGAINST the huge frauds they perpitrate

 

and to do THAT we must get the GOPers out of elected office.


Since the lawsuit has already been filed, it would appear there is no need to get rid of the GOP.

 

 



If we get rid of the GOPers we can have NATIONAL laws against the kind of fraud that has been perpetrated on the American Public for the last several decades. In fact, we can follow the lead of the rest of the World's Democracies and regulate the pharmaceutical industry so the price Americans pay is the lowest the American companies charge anywhere. Keep the GOPers keep the fraud.


The issue is being dealt with very effectively. No need to go to your "One Party System".

 

So the question comes up - do you want the problem dealt with or are you looking for a total redo of our very successful Nation?


Well if that's the case - can you provide the Millions of Elderly Americans who belong to AARP a list of all the Drugs who's Costs have decreased as a result of this Effective Method of dealing with the Daily Increases in the cost of their Pharmaceuticals?

 

 

( " China if You're Listening - Get Trumps Tax Returns " )

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@Olderscout66 wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

@Olderscout66 wrote:

@mickstuder wrote:

States Sue Generic Drug Makers Over Alleged Price-Fixing Schemes

 

BOSTON (AP) — Attorneys general from more than 40 states are alleging the nation’s largest generic drug manufacturers conspired to artificially inflate and manipulate prices for more than 100 different generic drugs, including treatments for diabetes, cancer, arthritis and other medical conditions.

 

The lawsuit, filed in federal court in Connecticut on Friday, also names 15 individual senior executives responsible for sales, marketing and pricing.

Connecticut Attorney General William Tong, a Democrat, said investigators obtained evidence implicating 20 firms.

 

“We have hard evidence that shows the generic drug industry perpetrated a multibillion dollar fraud on the American people,” Tong said. “We have emails, text messages, telephone records and former company insiders that we believe will prove a multi-year conspiracy to fix prices and divide market share for huge numbers of generic drugs.”

 

Tong said the investigation had uncovered a primary reason why the cost of health care — and specifically generic prescription drugs — has been so high in this country.

 

Source - https://www.huffpost.com/entry/drug-prices-states-sue_n_5cd79844e4b054da4e8a9a70

 

 

 


The ONLY way to get Big Pharma (or any of our Corporat Oligarchies)to behave like reasonable human beings will be to haul them into court, convict them of felony crimes, fine them out of their trustfunds and send them away to live with a 300lb room mate who thinks their new name will be "Nancy".

 

To do that, we must first create laws AGAINST the huge frauds they perpitrate

 

and to do THAT we must get the GOPers out of elected office.


Since the lawsuit has already been filed, it would appear there is no need to get rid of the GOP.

 

 



If we get rid of the GOPers we can have NATIONAL laws against the kind of fraud that has been perpetrated on the American Public for the last several decades. In fact, we can follow the lead of the rest of the World's Democracies and regulate the pharmaceutical industry so the price Americans pay is the lowest the American companies charge anywhere. Keep the GOPers keep the fraud.


The issue is being dealt with very effectively. No need to go to your "One Party System".

 

So the question comes up - do you want the problem dealt with or are you looking for a total redo of our very successful Nation?

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@rk9152 wrote:

@mickstuder wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

@mickstuder wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

@Olderscout66 wrote:

@mickstuder wrote:

States Sue Generic Drug Makers Over Alleged Price-Fixing Schemes

 

BOSTON (AP) — Attorneys general from more than 40 states are alleging the nation’s largest generic drug manufacturers conspired to artificially inflate and manipulate prices for more than 100 different generic drugs, including treatments for diabetes, cancer, arthritis and other medical conditions.

 

The lawsuit, filed in federal court in Connecticut on Friday, also names 15 individual senior executives responsible for sales, marketing and pricing.

Connecticut Attorney General William Tong, a Democrat, said investigators obtained evidence implicating 20 firms.

 

“We have hard evidence that shows the generic drug industry perpetrated a multibillion dollar fraud on the American people,” Tong said. “We have emails, text messages, telephone records and former company insiders that we believe will prove a multi-year conspiracy to fix prices and divide market share for huge numbers of generic drugs.”

 

Tong said the investigation had uncovered a primary reason why the cost of health care — and specifically generic prescription drugs — has been so high in this country.

 

Source - https://www.huffpost.com/entry/drug-prices-states-sue_n_5cd79844e4b054da4e8a9a70

 

 

 


The ONLY way to get Big Pharma (or any of our Corporat Oligarchies)to behave like reasonable human beings will be to haul them into court, convict them of felony crimes, fine them out of their trustfunds and send them away to live with a 300lb room mate who thinks their new name will be "Nancy".

 

To do that, we must first create laws AGAINST the huge frauds they perpitrate

 

and to do THAT we must get the GOPers out of elected office.


Since the lawsuit has already been filed, it would appear there is no need to get rid of the GOP.

 

The 300 pounder and Nancy again. Between that and the golden showers, you do have some strange obsessions.


So Don't You Have Some Strange Obsessions - Now You're Referring to People as 300 Pounders - is that supposed to be Nadler or the King of Fries and Fast Food Burgers

 

Nadlers current BMI is probably 25

 

Trumps BMI puts him in the Morbidly Obese Category

 

 


A prerequisite to an intelligent response is reading the post that was being referred to.


Ok so you've proven my reading skills need honing - so that takes care of BMI's

No - it is the desire to attack first, think second that need attending to.

 

People Who Attack First and Ask Questions Later - Typically Live To Fight Another Day & Finding One Grain of Sand Doesn't Necessarliy Reveal a Entire Beach

 

Regardless - Lawsuits only determine Guilt or Innocence

Not so, that is criminal actions. Being sued like this is often the best remedy for a situation because it hits them in the pocketbook.

 

Oh you mean like the Thousands of Law Suits That Have Changed Trump the Mutes Behavior - Didn;t Conservatives used to be the ones always calling for Tort Reform - Now your advocating Wacking them in the Pocketbook as the remedy for everything

 

BTW: Then Do You Support the House Committee Chairman Fining Trump $25,000 for everyday he refuses to comply with Each Subpoena?

 

Legislation is required to more strongly disincentivize

See above. Nothing is stronger the a hit in the pocketbook.

 

See Above

 

Where is the Mute Trump on these Issues

In DC the last I heard.

 

Why do we need PBM's

I have no idea - that is not my decision.

 

Why are US Rx Prices Double & Triple most other Major Countries for the same exact Medicine

A good question being ddressed by the lawsuits

 

How is a finding of Guilt in this Specific Case in and of itself going to automatically start controlling increases or lowering Costs?

 

It's simply another illustration of the inability of the Entire US Government to Govern Effectively

 

AND

 

The Level of Corporate Greed - Where Billions in Profit are No Longer Satisfying - Trillions are needed

 

 

 

 

 

 


 


 

( " China if You're Listening - Get Trumps Tax Returns " )

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@rk9152 wrote:

@Olderscout66 wrote:

@mickstuder wrote:

States Sue Generic Drug Makers Over Alleged Price-Fixing Schemes

 

BOSTON (AP) — Attorneys general from more than 40 states are alleging the nation’s largest generic drug manufacturers conspired to artificially inflate and manipulate prices for more than 100 different generic drugs, including treatments for diabetes, cancer, arthritis and other medical conditions.

 

The lawsuit, filed in federal court in Connecticut on Friday, also names 15 individual senior executives responsible for sales, marketing and pricing.

Connecticut Attorney General William Tong, a Democrat, said investigators obtained evidence implicating 20 firms.

 

“We have hard evidence that shows the generic drug industry perpetrated a multibillion dollar fraud on the American people,” Tong said. “We have emails, text messages, telephone records and former company insiders that we believe will prove a multi-year conspiracy to fix prices and divide market share for huge numbers of generic drugs.”

 

Tong said the investigation had uncovered a primary reason why the cost of health care — and specifically generic prescription drugs — has been so high in this country.

 

Source - https://www.huffpost.com/entry/drug-prices-states-sue_n_5cd79844e4b054da4e8a9a70

 

 

 


The ONLY way to get Big Pharma (or any of our Corporat Oligarchies)to behave like reasonable human beings will be to haul them into court, convict them of felony crimes, fine them out of their trustfunds and send them away to live with a 300lb room mate who thinks their new name will be "Nancy".

 

To do that, we must first create laws AGAINST the huge frauds they perpitrate

 

and to do THAT we must get the GOPers out of elected office.


Since the lawsuit has already been filed, it would appear there is no need to get rid of the GOP.

 

 



If we get rid of the GOPers we can have NATIONAL laws against the kind of fraud that has been perpetrated on the American Public for the last several decades. In fact, we can follow the lead of the rest of the World's Democracies and regulate the pharmaceutical industry so the price Americans pay is the lowest the American companies charge anywhere. Keep the GOPers keep the fraud.

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@mickstuder wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

@mickstuder wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

@Olderscout66 wrote:

@mickstuder wrote:

States Sue Generic Drug Makers Over Alleged Price-Fixing Schemes

 

BOSTON (AP) — Attorneys general from more than 40 states are alleging the nation’s largest generic drug manufacturers conspired to artificially inflate and manipulate prices for more than 100 different generic drugs, including treatments for diabetes, cancer, arthritis and other medical conditions.

 

The lawsuit, filed in federal court in Connecticut on Friday, also names 15 individual senior executives responsible for sales, marketing and pricing.

Connecticut Attorney General William Tong, a Democrat, said investigators obtained evidence implicating 20 firms.

 

“We have hard evidence that shows the generic drug industry perpetrated a multibillion dollar fraud on the American people,” Tong said. “We have emails, text messages, telephone records and former company insiders that we believe will prove a multi-year conspiracy to fix prices and divide market share for huge numbers of generic drugs.”

 

Tong said the investigation had uncovered a primary reason why the cost of health care — and specifically generic prescription drugs — has been so high in this country.

 

Source - https://www.huffpost.com/entry/drug-prices-states-sue_n_5cd79844e4b054da4e8a9a70

 

 

 


The ONLY way to get Big Pharma (or any of our Corporat Oligarchies)to behave like reasonable human beings will be to haul them into court, convict them of felony crimes, fine them out of their trustfunds and send them away to live with a 300lb room mate who thinks their new name will be "Nancy".

 

To do that, we must first create laws AGAINST the huge frauds they perpitrate

 

and to do THAT we must get the GOPers out of elected office.


Since the lawsuit has already been filed, it would appear there is no need to get rid of the GOP.

 

The 300 pounder and Nancy again. Between that and the golden showers, you do have some strange obsessions.


So Don't You Have Some Strange Obsessions - Now You're Referring to People as 300 Pounders - is that supposed to be Nadler or the King of Fries and Fast Food Burgers

 

Nadlers current BMI is probably 25

 

Trumps BMI puts him in the Morbidly Obese Category

 

 


A prerequisite to an intelligent response is reading the post that was being referred to.


Ok so you've proven my reading skills need honing - so that takes care of BMI's

No - it is the desire to attack first, think second that need attending to.

 

Regardless - Lawsuits only determine Guilt or Innocence

Not so, that is criminal actions. Being sued like this is often the best remedy for a situation because it hits them in the pocketbook.

 

Legislation is required to more strongly disincentivize

See above. Nothing is stronger the a hit in the pocketbook.

 

Where is the Mute Trump on these Issues

In DC the last I heard.

 

Why do we need PBM's

I have no idea - that is not my decision.

 

Why are US Rx Prices Double & Triple most other Major Countries for the same exact Medicine

A good question being ddressed by the lawsuits.

 

 

 

 


 

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@mickstuder wrote:

 

The only thing Relevant about Obama in this Discussion is - did US Voters determine he did enough on Drug Prices to deserve to Serve as President the Maximum Number of years allowed by the US Constitution

 

I do not recall that being a plank in his platform, do you have any details???


Doesn;t Matter - he was Elected Twice - Healthcare and Rx Drug Costs have been a Major Concern for Americans as has been pointed out before during and after Obama - Obama produced Obamacare - Millions of Americans like it even with all the Republican attacks to cripple it

 

Mute Trump has produced nothing - No Obamacare Repeal - No Obamacare Replacement - Just Promises that if we give him another 4 years - he's going to get right on it & yet there is still No Plan to Review

 

We can't do anything about the Past - but we are fortunate that in 2 years we can see the current occupant of the WH is Impotent on this and so many other issues facing the Nation soooo....

 

We can Elect a Person in 2020 who has at least Demonstrated the ability to define the Issue and to formulate a plan and get it sponsored and introduced as Legislation in Congress

 

I haven't heard any criticisms from you on Warrens Plan so I have to assume you're afraid it might be worthy

 

 

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@rk9152 wrote:

@mickstuder wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

@Olderscout66 wrote:

@mickstuder wrote:

States Sue Generic Drug Makers Over Alleged Price-Fixing Schemes

 

BOSTON (AP) — Attorneys general from more than 40 states are alleging the nation’s largest generic drug manufacturers conspired to artificially inflate and manipulate prices for more than 100 different generic drugs, including treatments for diabetes, cancer, arthritis and other medical conditions.

 

The lawsuit, filed in federal court in Connecticut on Friday, also names 15 individual senior executives responsible for sales, marketing and pricing.

Connecticut Attorney General William Tong, a Democrat, said investigators obtained evidence implicating 20 firms.

 

“We have hard evidence that shows the generic drug industry perpetrated a multibillion dollar fraud on the American people,” Tong said. “We have emails, text messages, telephone records and former company insiders that we believe will prove a multi-year conspiracy to fix prices and divide market share for huge numbers of generic drugs.”

 

Tong said the investigation had uncovered a primary reason why the cost of health care — and specifically generic prescription drugs — has been so high in this country.

 

Source - https://www.huffpost.com/entry/drug-prices-states-sue_n_5cd79844e4b054da4e8a9a70

 

 

 


The ONLY way to get Big Pharma (or any of our Corporat Oligarchies)to behave like reasonable human beings will be to haul them into court, convict them of felony crimes, fine them out of their trustfunds and send them away to live with a 300lb room mate who thinks their new name will be "Nancy".

 

To do that, we must first create laws AGAINST the huge frauds they perpitrate

 

and to do THAT we must get the GOPers out of elected office.


Since the lawsuit has already been filed, it would appear there is no need to get rid of the GOP.

 

The 300 pounder and Nancy again. Between that and the golden showers, you do have some strange obsessions.


So Don't You Have Some Strange Obsessions - Now You're Referring to People as 300 Pounders - is that supposed to be Nadler or the King of Fries and Fast Food Burgers

 

Nadlers current BMI is probably 25

 

Trumps BMI puts him in the Morbidly Obese Category

 

 


A prerequisite to an intelligent response is reading the post that was being referred to.


Ok so you've proven my reading skills need honing - so that takes care of BMI's

 

Regardless - Lawsuits only determine Guilt or Innocence

 

Legislation is required to more strongly disincentivize

 

Where is the Mute Trump on these Issues

 

Why do we need PBM's

 

Why are US Rx Prices Double & Triple most other Major Countries for the same exact Medicine

 

Again - One Democratic Candidate for President has Legislation Pending in Congress

 

Does the Mute Trump?

 

 

( " China if You're Listening - Get Trumps Tax Returns " )

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The only thing Relevant about Obama in this Discussion is - did US Voters determine he did enough on Drug Prices to deserve to Serve as President the Maximum Number of years allowed by the US Constitution

 

I do not recall that being a plank in his platform, do you have any details???

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