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Vladimir has a big smile on his face as he celebrates almost every day, knowing his puppet is the President of the United States.


If improving our economy, providing more jobs for those previously unemployed, getting our trading partners to treat American companies and their employees better, assuring that our defense partners pay their fair share, enforcing our borders all put a smile on Putin's face - I'm all for his happiness.

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Vladimir has a big smile on his face as he celebrates almost every day, knowing his puppet is the President of the United States.

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@Olderscout66 wrote:


Creation of unproven claims to attack the elected President? You must mean like the Birther Movement pushed by the ToadPOTUS.

Focus scout - Trump.

 

Then there's the LIE that "taking care of our borders" MUST involve building the Vainglorious Wall of Trump. The "caravans invading our southern Border" have been doing so for a decade with no noticeable increase in crime in our border States. The people in those caravans are all poor and not white, mostly women and children, and they abandon their homes and risk everything to become Americans.

No lie - people are entering illegally and as the Dems have agreed in the past, physical barriers help.

 

They arrive without proper documentation because their home countries have become failed States where only the rich can obtain the Government services needed to comply with our requirements for paperwork.

Are you referring to those **bleep**hole countries that the President is called a racist for mentioning?

 

The GOPerLords have told their lofos the reason the lofos are the first generation of Americans to not do as well as their parents is because immigrants forced the bosses to move the good jobs to commie slaves in Asia.

I had not heard that. Can you provide a source? Or is that just one more of "those" facts?

 

The ToadPOTUS can now tell his followers "those yearning to breath free" are going to "take up all the air" and must be stopped, and the GOPers believe and cheer. This makes America a meaner place, not a better one.

I had not heard him say that. Another of "those" facts?

 

The following is metaphorical and therefore may be unintelligible to the GOPer base who insist everything be literal. Those who made it past 5th grade should have no such problem:

The evidence lil donny is doing Putin's bidding is overwhelming for all with eyes that can see. Constantly trying to remove the scales from the eyes of Republicans is the path to victory over foreign control of our Government. Trying to keep the scales in place is EXACTLY what Putin wants and EXACTLY what the Republican base is doing.

No, not metaphorical - simply untrue. If one is going to make such claims, literal facts would be appropriate.

 


You mean REAL VERIFIED FACTS?

Like trump refusing to believe the conclusions of 17 American Intelligence Agencies - and saying, "I don't care - I believe Putin"

 

IMO - supporting trump after he says that does not appear to speak well for any appearance of patriotism and honest and honorable concern for the nation in those who persist in believing in trump and supporting him...

 

There is every appearance that those who believe and supprot trump must be thoroughly indoctrinated trump cultists rather than logical and rational Patriotic Americans...

 

I'm an American Citizen that cares more for what is going to be in the long term best interests of The United States of America - comprised of the majority of American Citizens - the 99% - than I care for believing any of trump's lies...

That means I have not allowed theoretical dogmatic extreme right fringe beliefs and deranged and delusional extreme fringe right wing paranoia about marxism and socialism to enter into logical and rational considerations of what's going to be best for the nation in the long run...


 

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Creatiuon of unproven claims to attack the elected President? You must mean like the Birther Movement pushed by the ToadPOTUS.

Focus scout - Trump.

 

Then there's the LIE that "taking care of our borders" MUST involve building the Vainglorious Wall of Trump. The "caravans invading our southern Border" have been doing so for a decade with no noticable increase in crime in our border States. The people in those caravans are all poor and not white, mostly women and chlidren, and they abandon their homes and risk everything to become Americans.

No lie - people are entering illegally and as the Dems have agreed in the past, physical barriers help.

 

They arrive without proper documentation because their home countries have become failed States where only the rich can obtain the Government services needed to comply with our requirements for paperwork.

Are you referring to those **bleep**hole countries that the President is called a racist for mentioning?

 

The GOPerLords have told their lofos the reason the lofos are the first generation of Americans to not do as well as their parents is because immigrants forced the bosses to move the good jobs to commie slaves in Asia.

I had not heard that. Can you provide a source? Or is that just one more of "those" facts?

 

The ToadPOTUS can now tell his followers "those yearning to breath free" are going to "take up all the air" and must be stopped, and the GOPers believe and cheer. This makes America a meaner place, not a better one.

I had not heard him say that. Another of "those" facts?

 

The following is metaphorical and therefore may be uniltelligable to the GOPer base who insist everything be literal. Those who made it past 5th grade should have no such problem:

The evidence lil donny is doing Putin's bidding is overwhelming for all with eyes that can see. Constantly trying to remove the scales from the eyes of Republicans is the path to victory over foreign control of our Government. Trying to keep the scales in place is EXACTLY what Putin wants and EXACTLY what the Republican base is doing.

No, not metaphorical - simply untrue. If one is going to make such claims, literal facts would be appropriate.

 


 

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@Olderscout66 wrote:

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"Doing the will of  Russia" is, I believe, your accusation.  They are standing up against the one man in American the Russian government and all the might of its spy agencies wanted to have as president yet you are asking them to stand down in favor of peace in our time. 

Ah, now I see where you were going. But there was a distinction you missed. I was not talking about "America giving up it's freedoms". I was referring to individuals so blinded by hatred that they are unwittingly serving the purpose of the Russians to weaken us.

 

I am suggesting that they consider the relative importance of not getting their way in an election vs weakening us as a nation.


Not according to what you post. Your posts suggest exposing and rebuking Treason is Treason, exposing and rebuking racism is racist. In short, whatever GOPerLords support must be true, all else is lies, and examining the facts will just confuse people.


No, it is the creation of unproven claims to attack the elected President that is doing the Russian's work. To see taking our borders seriously  as racist is doing the Russian's work for them.

 

Examining the facts is a great idea. But assuming facts is not. For example, what has Mueller said about "Russian collusion" - what have posters said about "Russian collusion".


Creatiuon of unproven claims to attack the elected President? You must mean like the Birther Movement pushed by the ToadPOTUS.

 

Then there's the LIE that "taking care of our borders" MUST involve building the Vainglorious Wall of Trump. The "caravans invading our southern Border" have been doing so for a decade with no noticable increase in crime in our border States. The people in those caravans are all poor and not white, mostly women and chlidren, and they abandon their homes and risk everything to become Americans.

 

They arrive without proper documentation because their home countries have become failed States where only the rich can obtain the Government services needed to comply with our requirements for paperwork.

 

The GOPerLords have told their lofos the reason the lofos are the first generation of Americans to not do as well as their parents is because immigrants forced the bosses to move the good jobs to commie slaves in Asia.

 

The ToadPOTUS can now tell his followers "those yearning to breath free" are going to "take up all the air" and must be stopped, and the GOPers believe and cheer. This makes America a meaner place, not a better one.

 

The following is metaphorical and therefore may be uniltelligable to the GOPer base who insist everything be literal. Those who made it past 5th grade should have no such problem:

The evidence lil donny is doing Putin's bidding is overwhelming for all with eyes that can see. Constantly trying to remove the scales from the eyes of Republicans is the path to victory over foreign control of our Government. Trying to keep the scales in place is EXACTLY what Putin wants and EXACTLY what the Republican base is doing.

 

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@rk9152 wrote: President that is doing the Russian's work. To see taking our borders seriously  as racist is doing the Russian's work for them.

 

Examining the facts is a great idea. But assuming facts is not. For example, what has Mueller said about "Russian collusion" - what have posters said about "Russian collusion".


Unlike Trump and his administration, Mueller is a dedicated professional with year's of experience and education specific to performing his duties.  He does not talk about what he is uncovering in this investigation.  Trump continues to comment and then must change his narrative every time another of his campaign staff pleads guilty to Russian collusion.  The posters here will have to be satisfied with what the press can learn based on the amazing amount of testimony being generated by those traitors.  Not to mention the almost weekly release of  well documented tell-all books about the corrupt and incompetent Trump administration. 


And yet with Mueller being the professional he is and able to control his staff such as to prevent leaks - how is it that the experts "know", particularly the "experts" posting here? 


You tell us - we keep reading posts that tell us about how trump is doing what's best and smartest - surely it's possible for anyone smart enough to be on the political right to determine all the details of what Mueller and his staff are doing...

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@rk9152 wrote: President that is doing the Russian's work. To see taking our borders seriously  as racist is doing the Russian's work for them.

 

Examining the facts is a great idea. But assuming facts is not. For example, what has Mueller said about "Russian collusion" - what have posters said about "Russian collusion".


Unlike Trump and his administration, Mueller is a dedicated professional with year's of experience and education specific to performing his duties.  He does not talk about what he is uncovering in this investigation.  Trump continues to comment and then must change his narrative every time another of his campaign staff pleads guilty to Russian collusion.  The posters here will have to be satisfied with what the press can learn based on the amazing amount of testimony being generated by those traitors.  Not to mention the almost weekly release of  well documented tell-all books about the corrupt and incompetent Trump administration. 


And yet with Mueller being the professional he is and able to control his staff such as to prevent leaks - how is it that the experts "know", particularly the "experts" posting here? 

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@rk9152 wrote: President that is doing the Russian's work. To see taking our borders seriously  as racist is doing the Russian's work for them.

 

Examining the facts is a great idea. But assuming facts is not. For example, what has Mueller said about "Russian collusion" - what have posters said about "Russian collusion".


Unlike Trump and his administration, Mueller is a dedicated professional with year's of experience and education specific to performing his duties.  He does not talk about what he is uncovering in this investigation.  Trump continues to comment and then must change his narrative every time another of his campaign staff pleads guilty to Russian collusion.  The posters here will have to be satisfied with what the press can learn based on the amazing amount of testimony being generated by those traitors.  Not to mention the almost weekly release of  well documented tell-all books about the corrupt and incompetent Trump administration. 

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@rk9152 wrote:

@Richva wrote:

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@rk9152 wrote:And there is an example of an AARP poster doing the will of the Russians as I just mentioned. They were smart. Had Hillary won, there would be none of this divisiveness.

This is an interesting argument.  America should give up its freedoms and submit to the puppet of the KGB in order to maintain peace in our time.  Where have I heard that expression before? 


How did you find that in my words?


"Doing the will of  Russia" is, I believe, your accusation.  They are standing up against the one man in American the Russian government and all the might of its spy agencies wanted to have as president yet you are asking them to stand down in favor of peace in our time. 


Ah, now I see where you were going. But there was a distinction you missed. I was not talking about "America giving up it's freedoms". I was referring to individuals so blinded by hatred that they are unwittingly serving the purpose of the Russians to weaken us.

 

I am suggesting that they consider the relative importance of not getting their way in an election vs weakening us as a nation.


Not according to what you post. Your posts suggest exposing and rebuking Treason is Treason, exposing and rebuking racism is racist. In short, whatever GOPerLords support must be true, all else is lies, and examining the facts will just confuse people.


No, it is the creation of unproven claims to attack the elected President that is doing the Russian's work. To see taking our borders seriously  as racist is doing the Russian's work for them.

 

Examining the facts is a great idea. But assuming facts is not. For example, what has Mueller said about "Russian collusion" - what have posters said about "Russian collusion".

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@rk9152 wrote:

@Richva wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:And there is an example of an AARP poster doing the will of the Russians as I just mentioned. They were smart. Had Hillary won, there would be none of this divisiveness.

This is an interesting argument.  America should give up its freedoms and submit to the puppet of the KGB in order to maintain peace in our time.  Where have I heard that expression before? 


How did you find that in my words?


Same as always - by reading them, and having successfully completed (at least) the 4th grade.


If you think you can answer for Rich, please do. Where was that in my words?

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