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Mick I saw this on the news yesterday,, and whoever was talking had one easy solution to cut down on women bleeding to death after giving birth. In the US they basically "eyeball" the amount of blood postpartum. In other developed countries thay actually spen the time and money to MEASURE the amount.
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@CarryAnne wrote:

Our health care system or lack thereof is contributing to the problem, but our abysmal maternal & infant mortality rates have a long history that extends beyond our current health care system. 

 

Americans have the worse health in almost every category as compared to their contemporaries in other countries - and this is a downward cycle that began circa 1950, per Institute of Medicine 2013 analysis "U.S. Health in International Perspective: Shorter Lives, Poorer Health." 

 

The IOM conveniently did not point a finger, but other analysis has shown that the US population drinks more fluoridated water, consumes more pesticide ladened food (GMO and other), takes more vaccines, and has the highest exposure to electromagnetic radiation frequencies (EMF) than any other industrialized country, too. 

  1. Fluoride in water is an inflammatory drug & enzyme poison that interferes with hormones. 
  2. Pesticides by definition are poison 
  3. Vaccines are contaminated with pesticides & inflammatory metallic nano-particles 
  4. Non-ionizing radiation from wireless networks interfere with biological systems. 

 

Thing is, all of the above are profitable for industry, so politicians and government are willfully blind to scientific evidence of harm and pleas from scientists to take action. I suggest we senior citizens need to use our voice in defense of our grandchildren's future. 

 

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A insightful and interesting take on the problem. Nice to see a post with links which help back up the posters claims. Amazing and refreshing to read a post without the vitriol so often found in posts on this forum.

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Oh, I'm not giving Trump a pass on anything. He's a disaster for health, economy, environment and global stability. 

 

However, it's too simplistic to blame him for maternal & infant mortality which have been the highest  in the industrialized world for some time. Undoutedly, they will be even worse under his regime, but prenatal health care and heroic health care measures aren't addressing root causes from environmental exposures. Consequently, blaming Trump gives cover to industry who are causing death - industries who are complicit in willful blindness among the Democratic party, too. 

 

If I may paraphrase Bill Clinton who fast tracked GMOs and burried scientific evidence of harm because of economic opportunities, "It's the poison, stupid!" 

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@CarryAnne wrote:

Our health care system or lack thereof is contributing to the problem, but our abysmal maternal & infant mortality rates have a long history that extends beyond our current health care system. 

 

Americans have the worse health in almost every category as compared to their contemporaries in other countries - and this is a downward cycle that began circa 1950, per Institute of Medicine 2013 analysis "U.S. Health in International Perspective: Shorter Lives, Poorer Health." 

 

The IOM conveniently did not point a finger, but other analysis has shown that the US population drinks more fluoridated water, consumes more pesticide ladened food (GMO and other), takes more vaccines, and has the highest exposure to electromagnetic radiation frequencies (EMF) than any other industrialized country, too. 

  1. Fluoride in water is an inflammatory drug & enzyme poison that interferes with hormones. 
  2. Pesticides by definition are poison 
  3. Vaccines are contaminated with pesticides & inflammatory metallic nano-particles 
  4. Non-ionizing radiation from wireless networks interfere with biological systems. 

 

Thing is, all of the above are profitable for industry, so politicians and government are willfully blind to scientific evidence of harm and pleas from scientists to take action. I suggest we senior citizens need to use our voice in defense of our grandchildren's future. 

 

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Your not going to give Trump and the GOP a pass on my watch - Trump & the GOP refuses to adequately staff and fund HHS - THE EPA - TRUMP & the GOP are cutting the departments in the US Government responsible for coordinating funding and research for womans preventive healthcare like Planned Parenthood - Trump & the GOP are anti-science & math .........choosing instead to turn our healthcare over to the healthcare industry and insurance companies & the stock to markets to regulate themselves 

 

Do some research on the JCAH a private group funded by hospitals to inspect and accredit hospitals - talk about the fox guarding the hen house

 

As you've done a fine job noting - there are many contributing factors but Greed is the prominent determinant but discrimination and the disrespect of woman by rich white men is a close second..........the GOP has controlled Congress for years and ignore all these catastrophic health care outcomes - Trump has been in office for over a year and a half and with all the crisis within the US Healthcare systems - compared to opportunities for Photo Ops Rallies and playing Golf - he cant be bothered 

 

 

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@under Trumps Healthcare Fixes - The United States is now the most dangerous place in the World for Mothers to give birth @Mick.........Do you think lifestyle may have something to do with this? Cigaretts, weed, harder drugs, liquor, poor diet. Are we going to be a society where no one takes personal responbility?

No I dont - if you read the research - it's clear the majority of deaths are due to Medical Profession Malpractice - many woman are literally bleeding to death internally while still hospitalized - a large portion are contracting drug resistant infections from their hospital stays - some are dying because of Ob/gynecological Drs incompetence in not properly diagnosing potential underlying pre-existing conditions..........look - when pregnant woman are treated by a licensed physician for 9 months and present at accredited hospitals for delivery and they die while in the care of Medical Professionals in those hospitals after paying the highest costs in the world for healthcare that cant even keep them alive after simple child birth - something non US woman are doing on their own all over the world w/o the expense - w/o the post delivery complications and with way better outcomes - it doesn't take a Genius to figure out who's to blame 

 

In addition your blame the victim suggestion is absurd - Serena William's arguably the best female tennis player of all time - almost died from complications (blood clots) after recently giving birth in the USA to her first child 

 

 

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Our health care system or lack thereof is contributing to the problem, but our abysmal maternal & infant mortality rates have a long history that extends beyond our current health care system. 

 

Americans have the worse health in almost every category as compared to their contemporaries in other countries - and this is a downward cycle that began circa 1950, per Institute of Medicine 2013 analysis "U.S. Health in International Perspective: Shorter Lives, Poorer Health." 

 

The IOM conveniently did not point a finger, but other analysis has shown that the US population drinks more fluoridated water, consumes more pesticide ladened food (GMO and other), takes more vaccines, and has the highest exposure to electromagnetic radiation frequencies (EMF) than any other industrialized country, too. 

  1. Fluoride in water is an inflammatory drug & enzyme poison that interferes with hormones. 
  2. Pesticides by definition are poison 
  3. Vaccines are contaminated with pesticides & inflammatory metallic nano-particles 
  4. Non-ionizing radiation from wireless networks interfere with biological systems. 

 

Thing is, all of the above are profitable for industry, so politicians and government are willfully blind to scientific evidence of harm and pleas from scientists to take action. I suggest we senior citizens need to use our voice in defense of our grandchildren's future. 

 

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@Soosie wrote:
‎07-26-2018 06:49 PM
@under Trumps Healthcare Fixes - The United States is now the most dangerous place in the World for Mothers to give birth @Mick.........Do you think lifestyle may have something to do with this? Cigaretts, weed, harder drugs, liquor, poor diet. Are we going to be a society where no one takes personal responbility?

No. We have the far right Dictator Trump in the process of destroying the health care system. All the things you bring up have been used by the far right to try and offset what they are doing for years now.

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Trump Makes US Worst in Maternal Mortality

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Another thread with a false name.

I did not see Trump mentioned in the link..the link was from 14 months ago.

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@mickstuder wrote:

Under Trumps Healthcare Fixes - The United States is now the most dangerous place in the World for Mothers to give birth 

 

Source - https://www.npr.org/2017/05/12/528098789/u-s-has-the-worst-rate-of-maternal-deaths-in-the-developed-...

 

 


 Did you even take the time to read the article? First of all, stating the United States is the most dangerous place in the world for mothers to give birth is an outright lie.  You better read the article. The second lie-under Trumps healthcare. Did you take the time to look at the graph to see the years where the trend started? Sorry to burst your bubble, but the danger has been increasing significantly since way before Trump took office. The graph actually ends in 2015.

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Under Trumps Healthcare Fixes - The United States is now the most dangerous place in the World for Mothers to give birth @Mick.........Do you think lifestyle may have something to do with this? Cigaretts, weed, harder drugs, liquor, poor diet. Are we going to be a society where no one takes personal responbility?
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