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It is true that infant mortality  in the US  has always been one of the highest in the industrialized world.
And and of course now with the defunct of Planned Parenthood will be even worse. In their desire to please those Evangelists the ones with the flexible morals. regarding terminations they have  really taken out one of the best organizations regarding prenatal   care for poor women. But I guess that they are not realizing that   the deaths of those kids is as if  pregnancies termination were in effect.


What does "the defunct of PP mean?????

 

I don't think that abortions count as part of "Maternity Mortality" which mick blamed on Trump even though his chart ended in 2015.

 

And, finally, in the published list of causes, did you see Evangelists in there anywhere?

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It is true that infant mortality  in the US  has always been one of the highest in the industrialized world.
And and of course now with the defunct of Planned Parenthood will be even worse. In their desire to please those Evangelists the ones with the flexible morals. regarding terminations they have  really taken out one of the best organizations regarding prenatal   care for poor women. But I guess that they are not realizing that   the deaths of those kids is as if  pregnancies termination were in effect.

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Admittedly Der Trump is going to kill more Americans than Bin Laden ever dreamed of by gutting the regulations and regulators that keep us from being poisoned for profit by BigBusiness - his latest was to remove restrictions on allowing a carcinogenic de-greasing and drycleaning compound to freely enter our drinking water because its manufacturer and users make more money that way. Trump also set regulations that keep the effects of many chemicals "secret" and stopped funding for Government agencies who have been trying to determine which chemicals are harmful the Humans.

BUT HE COULD NOT DO IT WITHOUT THE CONNIVANCE OF REPUBLICANS, so

 

VOTE OUT THE NRAGOP IN NOVERMBER -your life depends on it - really.


Wake up scout - the report had nothing to do with President Trump.

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@MIseker wrote:
Mick I saw this on the news yesterday,, and whoever was talking had one easy solution to cut down on women bleeding to death after giving birth. In the US they basically "eyeball" the amount of blood postpartum. In other developed countries thay actually spen the time and money to MEASURE the amount.

has the system changed under President Trump? if not, the topic is a fraud.

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Your not going to give Trump and the GOP a pass on my watch - Trump & the GOP refuses to adequately staff and fund HHS - THE EPA - TRUMP & the GOP are cutting the departments in the US Government responsible for coordinating funding and research for womans preventive healthcare like Planned Parenthood - Trump & the GOP are anti-science & math .........choosing instead to turn our healthcare over to the healthcare industry and insurance companies & the stock to markets to regulate themselves 

 

Do some research on the JCAH a private group funded by hospitals to inspect and accredit hospitals - talk about the fox guarding the hen house

 

As you've done a fine job noting - there are many contributing factors but Greed is the prominent determinant but discrimination and the disrespect of woman by rich white men is a close second..........the GOP has controlled Congress for years and ignore all these catastrophic health care outcomes - Trump has been in office for over a year and a half your report ended in 2015 and with all the crisis within the US Healthcare systems - compared to opportunities for Photo Ops Rallies and playing Golf - he cant be bothered 

 

 


 

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No I dont - if you read the research - it's clear the majority of deaths are due to Medical Profession Malpractice - many woman are literally bleeding to death internally while still hospitalized - a large portion are contracting drug resistant infections from their hospital stays - some are dying because of Ob/gynecological Drs incompetence in not properly diagnosing potential underlying pre-existing conditions..........look - when pregnant woman are treated by a licensed physician for 9 months and present at accredited hospitals for delivery and they die while in the care of Medical Professionals in those hospitals after paying the highest costs in the world for healthcare that cant even keep them alive after simple child birth - something non US woman are doing on their own all over the world w/o the expense - w/o the post delivery complications and with way better outcomes - it doesn't take a Genius to figure out who's to blame 

In addition your blame the victim suggestion is absurd - Serena William's arguably the best female tennis player of all time - almost died from complications (blood clots) after recently giving birth in the USA to her first child 


Where in all that do you see a reason to blame the President??

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@Soosie wrote:
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@under Trumps Healthcare Fixes - The United States is now the most dangerous place in the World for Mothers to give birth @Mick.........Do you think lifestyle may have something to do with this? Cigaretts, weed, harder drugs, liquor, poor diet. Are we going to be a society where no one takes personal responbility?

No. We have the far right Dictator Trump in the process of destroying the health care system. All the things you bring up have been used by the far right to try and offset what they are doing for years now.


Nothing in the report is related to either President Trump or some so called "Dictator".

 

Surely there is enough for you to whine about regarding the successes of our President without making stuff up.

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Under Trumps Healthcare Fixes - The United States is now the most dangerous place in the World for Mothers to give birth 

 

Source - https://www.npr.org/2017/05/12/528098789/u-s-has-the-worst-rate-of-maternal-deaths-in-the-developed-...

 

 


Such dishonesty. The NPR report says nothing about "Trump Healthcare Fixes" and the chart ends in 2015.

 

Do you really hate the President so much that it blinds you to such simple truths? Or are the inaccuracies intentional, counting on the hatred of others to the President will make them not care?

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@Soosie wrote:
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@under Trumps Healthcare Fixes - The United States is now the most dangerous place in the World for Mothers to give birth @Mick.........Do you think lifestyle may have something to do with this? Cigaretts, weed, harder drugs, liquor, poor diet. Are we going to be a society where no one takes personal responbility?

You would have validity in your rant IF the rest of the World was not dealing with the same "personal choice" problems. They are, you don't.

 

How about Republicans take responsibility for the US having the worst health care system in the industrialized World, or do you want everyone to pretend along with you somehow your party's undermining any improvement that benefits the patient and not the provider, like PPACA and Medicare, is not a factor?

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Admittedly Der Trump is going to kill more Americans than Bin Laden ever dreamed of by gutting the regulations and regulators that keep us from being poisoned for profit by BigBusiness - his latest was to remove restrictions on allowing a carcinogenic de-greasing and drycleaning compound to freely enter our drinking water because its manufacturer and users make more money that way. Trump also set regulations that keep the effects of many chemicals "secret" and stopped funding for Government agencies who have been trying to determine which chemicals are harmful the Humans.

BUT HE COULD NOT DO IT WITHOUT THE CONNIVANCE OF REPUBLICANS, so

 

VOTE OUT THE NRAGOP IN NOVERMBER -your life depends on it - really.

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