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Do you think we should have a border between us and Canada.  If so, should the Canadian border be fortified with walls and barriers?


Why not ask the border patrol since THEY are the real experts. Not Nancy Pelosi or Donald Trump. I think their answer might surprise the left and be minimal barriers on the Northern border and maximum barriers on the Southern border.


Define "maximum barriers".  The majority of the "border patrol" doesn't support trump's Vanity Wall, just like the majority of Americans don't. And that is no "surprise".


"Maximum (number of) barriers"=more than normal number (longer length)

"Minimum (")=less than normal number (less length)

 

Border patrol says more barriers are needed in some places (southern border), and technology can be used in other places, and more border agents can be used at other places.

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Our Intel chiefs tell us we do not and it is not an issue. Now what do you know they do not know?


They did not say it is not an issue.

 

But, how about you - should we have borders? If "yes" should they not be enforced?


Do you think we should have a border between us and Canada.  If so, should the Canadian border be fortified with walls and barriers?


Why not ask the border patrol since THEY are the real experts. Not Nancy Pelosi or Donald Trump. I think their answer might surprise the left and be minimal barriers on the Northern border and maximum barriers on the Southern border.


We (the actual news) did, and what they said was it was crapola working for a POTUS (aka gutless preppytwit) who would not pay them or hire enough agents or give them the necessary equipment. The head of the organization, appointed by lil donny, said they need a wall in the south because he needs his job.

 

By the way, if you'd asked the GIs at Normandy how the invasion was going on June 8th, 1944, you'd not hear anything of strategic significance. Asking Ike's G-2 would've provided a significantly better overview, just as the Intelligence chiefs of today have a better picture than the folks "on the ground".

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@ChasKy53 wrote:

 


Do you think we should have a border between us and Canada.  If so, should the Canadian border be fortified with walls and barriers?


Why not ask the border patrol since THEY are the real experts. Not Nancy Pelosi or Donald Trump. I think their answer might surprise the left and be minimal barriers on the Northern border and maximum barriers on the Southern border.


Define "maximum barriers".  The majority of the "border patrol" doesn't support trump's Vanity Wall, just like the majority of Americans don't. And that is no "surprise".


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As previously posted, these people have the job of assessing potential threats from foreign enemies. Do you consider the caravans "foreign enemies"?


Obviously dt does.  He spends military capital to defeat the efforts of what he calls "an invasion", shutting down the government to fight these enemies and willing to declare a national emergency to further enlist the military and their assets.

dt's response comments do not address AT ALL the assessments of the extensive, detailed, multi-faceted threats Russia imposes.

Why is that rk?  Do you consider Russia a foreign enemy and should, as dt suggests, these professionals go "back to school".

 

 

scout - They did NOT mention our southern border because THAT is NOT a threat to our security. Only lil donny sees it as a threat, but its a threat to his political future, not to our Nation.

 


We have a porous border. If that is not a security threat such as NK missiles for example, is it not an issue that the government should be concerned about?


Our Intel chiefs tell us we do not and it is not an issue. Now what do you know they do not know?


They did not say it is not an issue.

 

But, how about you - should we have borders? If "yes" should they not be enforced?


Do you think we should have a border between us and Canada.  If so, should the Canadian border be fortified with walls and barriers?


Why not ask the border patrol since THEY are the real experts. Not Nancy Pelosi or Donald Trump. I think their answer might surprise the left and be minimal barriers on the Northern border and maximum barriers on the Southern border.

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Why do you think the courts will be involved in such foolishness? Do you really think trump is stupid enough to declare a national emergency to try and get his vanity wall?


There are some that do not consider border security to be "foolishness". And the courts are the place to decide such issues.

 

Then there are those who are so partisan that they call it a "vanity wall".


So if the courts decide to not let trump declare a national emergency to pay for his vanity wall they consider border security to be "foolishness"?


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Active duty or nationalized, troops are often used to deal with circumstances requiring their expertise. 


Oh good, then military troops can be deployed when trump is arrested.


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@rk9152 wrote:

@ChasKy53 wrote:


It was about "threats" from anywhere outside of our country (globally), not just "enemies". Sure seems like several right wing posters here saw the caravan as a threat, and so did trump, he sent the military to the border and threatens to call a national emergency. Thank goodness no experts agree with him (or trump's supporters).


Are the caravans not a threat to our right to have borders? And yes, he sent troops to the border - as did Obama.


According to our security experts, NO. trump supporters (a shrinking minority) and trump are the only ones that think a national threat exists at our southern border.


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I hope Kidboy2 was listening to the Intelligence Chiefs. None of them mentioned the Mexican border as a national security issue.


They were being interviewed on the subject of "National Security" from the military perspective. That is different from border security. Rolling them together is either a sign of ignorance or deception.


If on February 15 instead of shutting the government down one more time, dt declares a National Emergency hoping he can enlist the military to build his vanity wall, for border security, would that be out of ignorance or purposeful deception - "from the military perspective"?

 

He continues to attack his Intelligence appointees by stating they are "naive" in their threat assessments as reported to Congress.

 

INTRODUCTION

 

...........We in the Intelligence Community are committed every day to providing the nuanced, independent, and unvarnished intelligence that policymakers, warfighters, and domestic law enforcement personnel need to protect American lives and America’s interests anywhere in the world.

 


Perhaps "anywhere in the world" excludes the fairytale Kingdom inside the Republibubble and THAT's why GOPers are unaware that our Intelligence Services work to protect us from REAL threats along our Southern Border and the reason they didn't mention any concerns at that location is because THERE IS NO THREAT ALONG OUR SOUTHERN BORDER.

 

All we have is a HUMANITARIAN CRISIS caused by lil donny

1. Ripping infants from their mother's arms, sending the kid to a for-profit concentration camp and deporting the mother.

2. Handing thousands of children over to for-profit concentration camps where they are beaten while tied to chairs for hours with bags over their heads (remember Abu Ghraib?)

3. Sending entire families pleading for asylum to private, unregulated, for-profit concentration camps instead of releasing them with "tracking anklets" as had been done successfully for DECADES.

 

Drugs come across the border in trucks that pass through the ports of entry BECAUSE Republcians constantly cut staffing for the Government and refuse to install the readily available electronic devices that would actually "seal" the border by finding the contraband be it drugs or people. As for walls, the drugs are simply thrown over the wall using catapults or "Tshirt cannons" or really strong drug "mules" OR the drug lords dig tunnels UNDER the wall.

 

Terrorists fly in, hidden among the 70,000,000 legitimate visitors who cannot be "tracked" and overstay their visas because Republicans refuse to hire the agents necessary to prevent that.

 

So more wall won't have any effect on drugs OR terrorists - why does lil donny demand we waste $5.7Billion on 230 miles of Vainglorious Wall of Trump in the desert?

 

The ONLY danger is for lil donny losing his base because those lofos think his Wall would actually keep out poor brown people desperate to become Americans.

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@rk9152 wrote:

@john258 wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

@oceanedge2 wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

As previously posted, these people have the job of assessing potential threats from foreign enemies. Do you consider the caravans "foreign enemies"?


Obviously dt does.  He spends military capital to defeat the efforts of what he calls "an invasion", shutting down the government to fight these enemies and willing to declare a national emergency to further enlist the military and their assets.

dt's response comments do not address AT ALL the assessments of the extensive, detailed, multi-faceted threats Russia imposes.

Why is that rk?  Do you consider Russia a foreign enemy and should, as dt suggests, these professionals go "back to school".

 

 

scout - They did NOT mention our southern border because THAT is NOT a threat to our security. Only lil donny sees it as a threat, but its a threat to his political future, not to our Nation.

 


We have a porous border. If that is not a security threat such as NK missiles for example, is it not an issue that the government should be concerned about?


Our Intel chiefs tell us we do not and it is not an issue. Now what do you know they do not know?


They did not say it is not an issue.

 

But, how about you - should we have borders? If "yes" should they not be enforced?


Do you think we should have a border between us and Canada.  If so, should the Canadian border be fortified with walls and barriers?


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@mickstuder wrote:

So lets assume for this next exercise most of the User Names on this Forum represent actual Real People with Real Families spread all across the USA

 

What are you & your family most concerned about

 

1. Illegal Immigrants pouring through our Southern Border

My family can walk and chew gum at the same time.

 

or some of this stuff contained in the National Threat Assessment Released to Congress Yesterday

 

2. For Example - Most of the US is under threat of Sub Zero Weather for the Next 48 hours

 

a. "China has the ability to launch cyber attacks that cause localized, temporary disruptive effects on critical infrastructure — such as disruption of a natural gas pipeline for days to weeks — in the United States," it warned.

Not caused by the need for border security or the temps.

 

b. "Russia has the ability to execute cyber attacks in the United States that generate localized, temporary disruptive effects on critical infrastructure — such as disrupting an electrical distribution network for at least a few hours — similar to those demonstrated in Ukraine in 2015 and 2016. Moscow is mapping our critical infrastructure with the long-term goal of being able to cause substantial damage," the report warned.

Not caused by the need for border security or the temps.

Source

 

https://www.dni.gov/files/documents/Newsroom/Testimonies/2018-ATA---Unclassified-SSCI.pdf

 

https://www.zdnet.com/article/cyber-attacks-china-and-russia-can-disrupt-us-power-networks-warns-int...

 

Source

 

Common sense

 

 


 

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