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@Panjandrum wrote:

rk9152:  What has meeting with a lobbyist granted special entry to the country by the Obama Administration say about "it all"?

 

She was granted an F1 Student Visa. Thousands get them.

Her situation was far from normal:

 https://www.reuters.com/article/legal-us-otc-veselnitskaya/how-did-russian-lawyer-veselnitskaya-get-...

 

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/342118-homeland-security-confirms-special-entry-for-russi...

 

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rk9152:  What has meeting with a lobbyist granted special entry to the country by the Obama Administration say about "it all"?

 

She was granted an F1 Student Visa. Thousands get them.

 

Federal investigators found evidence that Butina and an American colleague discussed the risks of her traveling on a tourist visa and ways she could remain in the United States, according to court papers. The description of the American matches that of Republican political operative Paul Erickson, with whom Butina's lawyer has said she was romantically involved.

After consulting Erickson, Butina sought a student visa, and in August 2016, she arrived in Washington to begin her studies at American University.

Prosecutors claimed in court papers last week that her attendance at AU was Butina's cover while she was continuing to work to promote Russian government interests.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-maria-butina-american-university-20180725-story.ht...

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CriticalThinking:  Hello Trump Lovers! How come you never complain about your idol and hero in the White House, Comrade Trump, for being soft on Russia?

 

 

It's pretty clear that they're putting Trump before America. I think despite all the nonsense we see here about no collusion, and reporting "bombshells!" that never materialize, etc., they're terrified of what Mueller will present when he's finished. If they aren't, they should be.

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NO RK!

 

We need a President who puts America First. That would mean a President who places the security and welfare of our country before his relationship with Vladimir. That is Not Happening and it will Not Happen. That's why we're waiting for the Mueller report to tell us what we all suspect.


That is what we have and I look forward to the day when those doing the bidding of the Russians by sowing division in our nation are fully exposed and the President and his staff can devote full time to fixing the problems at least partially caused by you bots or bot tools.

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NO RK!

 

We need a President who puts America First. That would mean a President who places the security and welfare of our country before his relationship with Vladimir. That is Not Happening and it will Not Happen. That's why we're waiting for the Mueller report to tell us what we all suspect.

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@CriticalThinking wrote:

Sorry, I had a typo. Comrade Trump has NOT agreed with our Intelligence Agencies who all say Russia conducted Cyberattacks against the US.

 

Trump has also failed to do anything about it.


I believe that once the politicization of this issue is over, there will be a lot more agreement and needed actions. Right now (and since the elections) the efforts to use the issue to undo the last elections is hampering needed actions.

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@oceanedge2 wrote:

rk - He is (as is any knowledgeable person) pointing out the broader implications of cyber warfare.

 

That's fine.  Due to his denials and consistent attacks on US Intelligence, no one is anymore expecting him to lead the charge protecting the US against cyper warefare attacks. Fortunatly for the country, there are persons more knowledgeable whose skills allow them to dissect the minutiae of each and every crime, each and every criminal's conduct.  They take seriously their oaths to the People and operate within US laws.  "broader implication" is an excuse to hide dt's obsession with protecting only himself.  A very shallow excuse for deriliction of duty.  The man is not a genious as he claims and he is certainly not "stable".  That's fine but the truly "broader implications" are his and your excuses will not save him from himself.  He and his presidency are as of this date, beyond redemption. 


This is like the phony FBI game played by some posters. The President is not attacking the intel community. He is pointing out the partisan corruption introduced into their organizations by the last Administration.

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Sorry, I had a typo. Comrade Trump has NOT agreed with our Intelligence Agencies who all say Russia conducted Cyberattacks against the US.

 

Trump has also failed to do anything about it.

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@CriticalThinking wrote:

RK repeatedly denies that Trump has agreed with all of our intelligence agencies which emphatically state that Russia launched a series of cyberattacks against the U.S. Unfortunately, Comrade Trump refuses to acknowledge this and do something about it.


rk keeps saying that Russia is and has been for quite awhile waging cyber warfare on us. He knows of no one who denies that and as ct said above the President also agrees with the intel community. So, rk is having a hard time figuring out ct's point except to type childishness like "Comrade Trump".

 

BTW - rk has also pointed out that a major element of the cyber warfare is to weaken us through division and rk had observed that Comrade ct is doing a fine job of that. So - bot - bot influenced, it's hard to tell.

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rk - He is (as is any knowledgeable person) pointing out the broader implications of cyber warfare.

 

That's fine.  Due to his denials and consistent attacks on US Intelligence, no one is anymore expecting him to lead the charge protecting the US against cyper warefare attacks. Fortunatly for the country, there are persons more knowledgeable whose skills allow them to dissect the minutiae of each and every crime, each and every criminal's conduct.  They take seriously their oaths to the People and operate within US laws.  "broader implication" is an excuse to hide dt's obsession with protecting only himself.  A very shallow excuse for deriliction of duty.  The man is not a genious as he claims and he is certainly not "stable".  That's fine but the truly "broader implications" are his and your excuses will not save him from himself.  He and his presidency are as of this date, beyond redemption. 

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