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Trump Losing 11 Electoral College Votes in AZ

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Actually, the polls weren't that far off in 2016. They predicted Hillary would win the national vote by about 3.5% and she won with a margin of about 2.5%. Where the pollsters screwed up was in the Midwest battleground states. 

 

Let's recall that Trump won 3 key battleground states by a total of approximately only 77,000 votes. That's not 77,000 per state, that was a TOTAL of 77,000 in three states, Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania. I'm doing this from memory, but I think it was those states.

 

In other words, Trump lost the popular vote by almost 3 million and just barely won the electoral colleges in the states mentioned above. Throw in a close 1.2% percentage point victory in Florida and it easily could have been a victory by Hillary. Even though Hillary was hated by millions of Americans, Trump was also hated. In the end, it was a very close election.

 

So yes, the pollsters were wrong, but not by much. And this time, they learned their lessons, They are paying close attention to the all important battleground states.

 

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   A quick look at AZ - there are 70K people who have the antigen for covid19 in Maricopa County ( aka Phoenix metro) area.   If they and TX and FL continue to kill people, they would loose in the Census as well.     Should make for an interesting year, as reconfiguration by population is now up for grabs.  

 

   For the whiners:   2038 deaths in AZ from Covid19, 75 in last 24 hours.  

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Polls shmolls - the polls said Hillary would be the winner over Trump and you see how that worked out.

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the state of Texas and its 38 Electoral College votes as a TIE. Wow! If Biden wins Texas, AZ, and FL, the election is over.

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I was thinking Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan and Wisconsin. But your way is fine with me.

 

 

 

 

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@CriticalThinking wrote:

Tom, the polls currently show the state of Texas and its 38 Electoral College votes as a TIE. Wow! If Biden wins Texas, AZ, and FL, the election is over.


Yup .... That's why I believe Trump will resign .... to avoid a horrendously embarrassing defeat.

 

And by resigning, Trump will throw Pence under the bus.

 

(Throwing people under the bus is SOP for Trump when he needs to protect himself.)

 

 

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Tom, the polls currently show the state of Texas and its 38 Electoral College votes as a TIE. Wow! If Biden wins Texas, AZ, and FL, the election is over.

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good for Arizona! Time to wake up!
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@Olderscout66 wrote:

In addition to the factors CT posted, I would add the sizable number of retirees in sunny Arizona just might be upset with Toad's TOTAL FAILURE to deal with the Corvid19 Pandemic, which kills about 8.6% of those over 70 infected and shortens the life of considerably more due to the damage it can do to your heart and lungs.

 

But Republicans are all doubling down on the Race Card, hoping enough White Supremacists and Nazis show up at the polls to slither them to re election. Might work - most republicans are white Fox viewers, so the only cure for Covid is going to be a MASSIVE voter turnout to FINALLY defeat "the Southern Strategy".


Just follow how the State is doing on the virus. The worst place in the word to be for getting the virus is in the Tucson area of AZ. Their hospitals are full and they are moving sick people to San Diego, CA, and ABQ., NM to be treated. The Navajo Nation is on total lock down every weekend  to keep people out of the rest of AZ. New Mexico took adds in the AZ papers last weekend. Stay in AZ do not come to NM. The Gov. of AZ is a Trump lackey and followed what Trump told him to do, and look what happened. By election time if Trump and the far right have their way few people will be left in AZ to vote as Trump and the Gov. are reducing the number every day.

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In addition to the factors CT posted, I would add the sizable number of retirees in sunny Arizona just might be upset with Toad's TOTAL FAILURE to deal with the Corvid19 Pandemic, which kills about 8.6% of those over 70 infected and shortens the life of considerably more due to the damage it can do to your heart and lungs.

 

But Republicans are all doubling down on the Race Card, hoping enough White Supremacists and Nazis show up at the polls to slither them to re election. Might work - most republicans are white Fox viewers, so the only cure for Covid is going to be a MASSIVE voter turnout to FINALLY defeat "the Southern Strategy".

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Trump Losing 11 Electoral College Votes in AZ

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It's payback time for Trump. All the polls currently show him losing the state of Arizona and the 11 electoral college votes he won in 2016. That's a swing of 22 votes because Trump loses 11 and Biden picks up those 11.

 

I read an article about the dynamics of the electorate and learned the following. 

  • Arizona is very upset with how Trump treated John McCain.
  • Arizona is upset with how Trump treated their conservative, Republican Senator, Jeff Flake.
  • Arizona is not happy with Trump issuing a pardon to a criminal thug named Joe Arpaio.
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