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You won't get an argument from me - establishment Republicans are useless. 


Seems to me that establishmentarians Ryan and McConnell have done a really great job of falling in line. Oh, they have voiced a little fake disgust here and there over some presidential tweeting, and a little fake outrage over the Putin business. However, they have delivered big time on getting all the big R-agenda bills passed like tax cuts, defunding and dismantling most of Obamacare, big time increases for defense spending, repealing sections of Dodd-Frank, etc. Of course, any other R-president would have done the same, so I don't see that you have anything to complain about.

 

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Richva wrote-God yes FLAKE IN 2020. -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------That would be my choice for the Democrats seeing they have no one who stands  out as a contender.

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If you want definitive proof that Trump Cult members have zero understanding of economics, please read the following.

 

"WIN WIN-I was referring to tarrifs we collect from  foreign imports will be used to pay farmers and other companies.You also don`t acknowledge the many new jobs that will be created now that we can be competitive with foreign companies."

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ChASKY WROTE-Duh ...... you forgot to include that the cost of the tariffs will be passed on to the American consumer in the price of the imported goods, so the American consumer actually pays for the cost of the tariffs. Then all Americans pay the money given to the farmers to buy their votes for trump.  Lose, lose ........ no upside----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------WIN WIN-I was referring to tarrifs we collect from  foreign imports will be used to pay farmers and other companies.You also don`t acknowledge the many new jobs that will be created now that we can be competitive with foreign companies.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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@rk9152 wrote:

@mickstuder wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

@gruffstuff wrote:

Tariffs are not "communist economic theory" - unless you can show otherwise.

 

 

But tariffs are taxes paid by the consumer of the goods, right?

Of course.

 

So Trump raises taxes, crashes and crushes farmers with them, then comes back to all the people he raised taxes on and says WE need to save the farmers from the mess TRUMP created.

 

Well I'm all for saving farmers and farms, but the 1% should give up their tax tax to save them.

 I believe you are referring to the tariff situation (or is it wealth redistribution?). Is parity for Americans not a worthy goal? 

 


Well in the past - you've characterized - Parity for Americans as - Socialism

 

Which is it?

 

 Come on, Mick, don't play games. We are talking about tariffs here and parity on the international economic scene. Also, it is parity of opportunity, not outcome.


It doesn;t matter the Scale or the Size of the Market - it's the same Principle.....................manipulation by Government.............................Americans were obviously happy with inexpensive products from other Countries at Walmart and on Amazon knowing all along they came from China Vietnam Mexico Canada Etc. .................Americans were happy importing their luxury cars & trucks from Foreign Countries...........................

 

Trump must have read something about Economics in 1984 and he's trying to fix a problem that doesn't exist today - just like he's trying to re-create Orwells 1984.......................today

 

He's Insane Corrupt and not fit to be President

 

   

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@rk9152 wrote:

You won't get an argument from me - establishment Republicans are useless. And you are right - come November, let's get people in the Congress that will support our President.


God yes FLAKE IN 2020. 

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"establishment Republicans are useless."

 

Trump Cult members illustrate why they are part of his Cult. They never hold their leader accountable or responsible for his behavior or actions. In this case, the farm crisis was a problem created solelly by the stupid Trade War Trump, and only Trump, started.

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@mickstuder wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

@Richva wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

@Richva wrote:

Looks like Trump has really been taken by communist economic theory.


Tariffs are not "communist economic theory" - unless you can show otherwise.


I was talking about "work according to ability, paid according to need".  Tell me how Trump's financial support of his political base does NOT fit that description. 

 

“This is becoming more and more like a Soviet type of economy here: Commissars deciding who’s going to be granted waivers, commissars in the administration figuring out how they’re going to sprinkle around benefits,” said Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.). “I’m very exasperated. This is serious.”


As I posted earlier, farm subsidies have been around for a long, long time and need serious looking at. But, as long as the laws are what they are, that is the framework in which the President must operate. Wouldn't want him to be a dictator would you?


But, as long as the laws are what they are, that is the framework in which the President must operate.

 

Wait a minute - if thats all true - then what was the Purpose of putting Republicans in control of the Entire US Government

 

The Presidency - Republican

 

The House - Republican

 

The Senate - Republican

 

The Supreme Court - Republican

 

Conclusion - Republicans Cannot Govern

 

Solution - November 2018

 

 


You won't get an argument from me - establishment Republicans are useless. And you are right - come November, let's get people in the Congress that will support our President.

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@mickstuder wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

@gruffstuff wrote:

Tariffs are not "communist economic theory" - unless you can show otherwise.

 

 

But tariffs are taxes paid by the consumer of the goods, right?

Of course.

 

So Trump raises taxes, crashes and crushes farmers with them, then comes back to all the people he raised taxes on and says WE need to save the farmers from the mess TRUMP created.

 

Well I'm all for saving farmers and farms, but the 1% should give up their tax tax to save them.

 I believe you are referring to the tariff situation (or is it wealth redistribution?). Is parity for Americans not a worthy goal? 

 


Well in the past - you've characterized - Parity for Americans as - Socialism

 

Which is it?

 

 Come on, Mick, don't play games. We are talking about tariffs here and parity on the international economic scene. Also, it is parity of opportunity, not outcome.

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@rk9152 wrote:

@Richva wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

@Richva wrote:

Looks like Trump has really been taken by communist economic theory.


Tariffs are not "communist economic theory" - unless you can show otherwise.


I was talking about "work according to ability, paid according to need".  Tell me how Trump's financial support of his political base does NOT fit that description. 

 

“This is becoming more and more like a Soviet type of economy here: Commissars deciding who’s going to be granted waivers, commissars in the administration figuring out how they’re going to sprinkle around benefits,” said Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.). “I’m very exasperated. This is serious.”


As I posted earlier, farm subsidies have been around for a long, long time and need serious looking at. But, as long as the laws are what they are, that is the framework in which the President must operate. Wouldn't want him to be a dictator would you?


But, as long as the laws are what they are, that is the framework in which the President must operate.

 

Wait a minute - if thats all true - then what was the Purpose of putting Republicans in control of the Entire US Government

 

The Presidency - Republican

 

The House - Republican

 

The Senate - Republican

 

The Supreme Court - Republican

 

Conclusion - Republicans Cannot Govern

 

Solution - November 2018

 

 

( " China if You're Listening - Get Trumps Tax Returns " )

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