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Every American by now must have heard about how Trump has Covered for the Saudi's when they Kidnapped - Tortured - Murdered & Dismembered Permanent US Resident & Washington Post Reporter Jamal Kashoggi

 

NOW

 

Trump is allowing the Saudi's to RAPE - HIT & RUN - MURDER............American Citizens right here in the United States

 

Five Saudi Students Accused of Rape, Murder, Hit and Runs, Have Fled Oregon Before Trial..................

 

On five occasions, privileged young Saudi men studying in the state of Oregon have been spirited out of the country on fake passports and private planes before their trials.

 

Speaking publicly for the first time Thursday, the parents of Fallon Smart, a 15-year-old victim of a hit and run by Saudi student Abdulrahman Sameer Noorah in 2016, said they were horrified to learn their daughter’s alleged assailant had disappeared two weeks before his trial with the help of the Saudi government. Noorah was charged with manslaughter, felony hit-and-run, and reckless driving in the teen’s death. He faced a minimum prison sentence of 10 years.

 

Federal investigators confirmed to the Oregonian/Oregon Live that a private lawyer hired by the Saudi consulate posted $100,000 of a $1 million bail for the 21-year-old and apparently arranged for a dark SUV to pick him up shortly after he left jail.

 

His severed electronic bracelet was found at a nearby gravel yard. Authorities believe he was given a forged passport, since his was sequestered by Oregon authorities, and flown back to Saudi Arabia on a private jet. He was seen back in his home country a week after he disappeared.

 

TRUMP DOES NOTHING

 

Source - https://www.thedailybeast.com/five-saudi-students-accused-of-rape-murder-hit-and-runs-have-fled-oreg...

 

 

 


In 2014, Abdulaziz Al Duways was arrested on accusations that he drugged and raped a classmate in Monmouth, Oregon. He, too, disappeared after the Saudi consulate helped secure bail.

 

Now about your punchline, TRUMP DOES NOTHING any thoughts??

 

 


Well Swell - I guess we should give you credit for not using the WHATABOUTISM argument for at least 24 hours - Bravo!

 

But credit where credit is due - you at least read the article in the link I provided

 

This isn't 2014 & you cited 1 example - I provided more than 5 just in the last year alone so the problem still exists and is escalating - Trump is the Current President

 

Illegal Immigrants have been finding their way into the US for 2 Centuries

 

North Korea has been working on a Nuclear Program for Decades

 

Iraq - Afghanistan - Syria................all Critical American Problems for over a Decade & a Half 

 

Trumps at least talking about these as American Problems - he's not solving any of them obviously - but at least he Tweets about them

 

So what is your POINT?

 

Trump & the Trump Cult get to pick and choose what Issues the President of the USA is responsble for?

 

Or do we just continue to let Trump decide what is most important to him personally?

 

I understand it's difficult to expect a President who only spends 40% of each day even thinking about Americans and the problems facing our Country to actually accomplish something Positive for the Future of the USA

 

Again - you Trump Cultists want to have it both ways

 

Obama certainly never coddled Saudi Arabia like Trump and you Republicans criticized him ferociously

 

First came the Iran Nuclear Deal - Saudi's worst nightmare & the GOP despite trying could not prevent it

 

Obama wanted Assad Gone - Trump wants to leave Syria to Assad the Russians

 

Obama reluctantly accepted al-sisi - but the Saudi's were concerned Electoral Islam would put Egypt as their major competitor as the Dominant Sunni-muslim country

 

Never mind - we all know Trump couldn;t explain the difference between Sunni & Shia if his current Mistress remaining a secret depended on it

 

Trump is afraid of whatever the Saudi's have on him - maybe you missed all the recent news about the Millions of American Military Equipment sold to Saudi Arabia that is now in the hands of the Houthi Rebels in Yeman and Trump is Mute again

 

Since your article included cases before President Trump, your point (to be valid) would have to be what does Saudi Arabia have on American Presidents? 

 

All the diversions and words in the world cannot overcome that straight forward common sense.

 

 

 


 

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@rk9152 wrote:

@mickstuder wrote:

WHAT DO THE SAUDI'S LIKE THE RUSSIANS HAVE ON TRUMP?

 

The Oregonian/OregonLive has found criminal cases involving at least five Saudi nationals who vanished before they faced trial or completed their jail sentence in Oregon. They include two accused rapists, a pair of suspected hit-and-run drivers and one man with child porn on his computer.

 

The five cases share many similarities:

 

- All were young men studying at a public college or university in Oregon with assistance from the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia at the time of their arrest.

 

- In four of the cases, the Saudi government stepped in to help, posting large sums of money for bail and possibly underwriting legal fees.

 

Three surrendered their passports.

 

- All disappeared while facing charges or jail time.

 

- The same Oregon defense attorney, Ginger Mooney, was hired to represent the four most recent suspects.

 

- Little is known of the whereabouts of the five, though some have been traced back to Saudi Arabia.

 

The new details add to mounting scrutiny of Saudi Arabia’s conduct abroad after the kingdom’s role in the murder of journalist Jamal Khashoggi in Turkey last fall.

 

Khashoggi, a U.S. resident, was dismembered inside the Saudi Consulate in Istanbul, according to Turkish officials.

 

The CIA believes Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman ordered the killing.

 

The additional cases raise new questions about the role the Saudi government may have played in assisting its citizens fleeing prosecution in Oregon — or possibly elsewhere in the United States.

 

Most puzzling is how some of the students were able to leave the country and travel internationally after they had surrendered their passports.

 

“This is even more evidence that the Saudi government has acted to help its citizens escape justice for crimes committed in Oregon,” Sen. Ron Wyden told The Oregonian/OregonLive in response to learning about the new cases.

 

Source - https://www.oregonlive.com/news/2019/01/gone-more-cases-emerge-of-saudi-students-vanishing-while-fac...

 

Based on what I posted about the 2014 incident (and the others in the report) what do you suppose they had on Obama?

 

Can any valid and verifiable proof be posted that anyone actally had anything on Obama - or is that based upon the same kind of "supposing" that led 62 million credulous conservatives and republicans to fatuously "suppose" that trump was (and is) honest, honorable, trustworthy - and not surrepititiously financially funded (bought) by Russian/Ukrainian bankers and oligarchs - and some Chinese interests - courtesy of the current sleazy senate majority leader?



 

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@rk9152 wrote:

@mickstuder wrote:

Every American by now must have heard about how Trump has Covered for the Saudi's when they Kidnapped - Tortured - Murdered & Dismembered Permanent US Resident & Washington Post Reporter Jamal Kashoggi

 

NOW

 

Trump is allowing the Saudi's to RAPE - HIT & RUN - MURDER............American Citizens right here in the United States

 

Five Saudi Students Accused of Rape, Murder, Hit and Runs, Have Fled Oregon Before Trial..................

 

On five occasions, privileged young Saudi men studying in the state of Oregon have been spirited out of the country on fake passports and private planes before their trials.

 

Speaking publicly for the first time Thursday, the parents of Fallon Smart, a 15-year-old victim of a hit and run by Saudi student Abdulrahman Sameer Noorah in 2016, said they were horrified to learn their daughter’s alleged assailant had disappeared two weeks before his trial with the help of the Saudi government. Noorah was charged with manslaughter, felony hit-and-run, and reckless driving in the teen’s death. He faced a minimum prison sentence of 10 years.

 

Federal investigators confirmed to the Oregonian/Oregon Live that a private lawyer hired by the Saudi consulate posted $100,000 of a $1 million bail for the 21-year-old and apparently arranged for a dark SUV to pick him up shortly after he left jail.

 

His severed electronic bracelet was found at a nearby gravel yard. Authorities believe he was given a forged passport, since his was sequestered by Oregon authorities, and flown back to Saudi Arabia on a private jet. He was seen back in his home country a week after he disappeared.

 

TRUMP DOES NOTHING

 

Source - https://www.thedailybeast.com/five-saudi-students-accused-of-rape-murder-hit-and-runs-have-fled-oreg...

 

 

 


In 2014, Abdulaziz Al Duways was arrested on accusations that he drugged and raped a classmate in Monmouth, Oregon. He, too, disappeared after the Saudi consulate helped secure bail.

 

Now about your punchline, TRUMP DOES NOTHING any thoughts??

 

 


Well Swell - I guess we should give you credit for not using the WHATABOUTISM argument for at least 24 hours - Bravo!

 

But credit where credit is due - you at least read the article in the link I provided

 

This isn't 2014 & you cited 1 example - I provided more than 5 just in the last year alone so the problem still exists and is escalating - Trump is the Current President

 

Illegal Immigrants have been finding their way into the US for 2 Centuries

 

North Korea has been working on a Nuclear Program for Decades

 

Iraq - Afghanistan - Syria................all Critical American Problems for over a Decade & a Half 

 

Trumps at least talking about these as American Problems - he's not solving any of them obviously - but at least he Tweets about them

 

So what is your POINT?

 

Trump & the Trump Cult get to pick and choose what Issues the President of the USA is responsble for?

 

Or do we just continue to let Trump decide what is most important to him personally?

 

I understand it's difficult to expect a President who only spends 40% of each day even thinking about Americans and the problems facing our Country to actually accomplish something Positive for the Future of the USA

 

Again - you Trump Cultists want to have it both ways

 

Obama certainly never coddled Saudi Arabia like Trump and you Republicans criticized him ferociously

 

First came the Iran Nuclear Deal - Saudi's worst nightmare & the GOP despite trying could not prevent it

 

Obama wanted Assad Gone - Trump wants to leave Syria to Assad the Russians

 

Obama reluctantly accepted al-sisi - but the Saudi's were concerned Electoral Islam would put Egypt as their major competitor as the Dominant Sunni-muslim country

 

Never mind - we all know Trump couldn;t explain the difference between Sunni & Shia if his current Mistress remaining a secret depended on it

 

Trump is afraid of whatever the Saudi's have on him - maybe you missed all the recent news about the Millions of American Military Equipment sold to Saudi Arabia that is now in the hands of the Houthi Rebels in Yeman and Trump is Mute again

 

 

 

 

 

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@mickstuder wrote:

WHAT DO THE SAUDI'S LIKE THE RUSSIANS HAVE ON TRUMP?

 

The Oregonian/OregonLive has found criminal cases involving at least five Saudi nationals who vanished before they faced trial or completed their jail sentence in Oregon. They include two accused rapists, a pair of suspected hit-and-run drivers and one man with child porn on his computer.

 

The five cases share many similarities:

 

- All were young men studying at a public college or university in Oregon with assistance from the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia at the time of their arrest.

 

- In four of the cases, the Saudi government stepped in to help, posting large sums of money for bail and possibly underwriting legal fees.

 

Three surrendered their passports.

 

- All disappeared while facing charges or jail time.

 

- The same Oregon defense attorney, Ginger Mooney, was hired to represent the four most recent suspects.

 

- Little is known of the whereabouts of the five, though some have been traced back to Saudi Arabia.

 

The new details add to mounting scrutiny of Saudi Arabia’s conduct abroad after the kingdom’s role in the murder of journalist Jamal Khashoggi in Turkey last fall.

 

Khashoggi, a U.S. resident, was dismembered inside the Saudi Consulate in Istanbul, according to Turkish officials.

 

The CIA believes Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman ordered the killing.

 

The additional cases raise new questions about the role the Saudi government may have played in assisting its citizens fleeing prosecution in Oregon — or possibly elsewhere in the United States.

 

Most puzzling is how some of the students were able to leave the country and travel internationally after they had surrendered their passports.

 

“This is even more evidence that the Saudi government has acted to help its citizens escape justice for crimes committed in Oregon,” Sen. Ron Wyden told The Oregonian/OregonLive in response to learning about the new cases.

 

Source - https://www.oregonlive.com/news/2019/01/gone-more-cases-emerge-of-saudi-students-vanishing-while-fac...

 

Based on what I posted about the 2014 incident (and the others in the report) what do you suppose they had on Obama?


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@mickstuder wrote:

Every American by now must have heard about how Trump has Covered for the Saudi's when they Kidnapped - Tortured - Murdered & Dismembered Permanent US Resident & Washington Post Reporter Jamal Kashoggi

 

NOW

 

Trump is allowing the Saudi's to RAPE - HIT & RUN - MURDER............American Citizens right here in the United States

 

Five Saudi Students Accused of Rape, Murder, Hit and Runs, Have Fled Oregon Before Trial..................

 

On five occasions, privileged young Saudi men studying in the state of Oregon have been spirited out of the country on fake passports and private planes before their trials.

 

Speaking publicly for the first time Thursday, the parents of Fallon Smart, a 15-year-old victim of a hit and run by Saudi student Abdulrahman Sameer Noorah in 2016, said they were horrified to learn their daughter’s alleged assailant had disappeared two weeks before his trial with the help of the Saudi government. Noorah was charged with manslaughter, felony hit-and-run, and reckless driving in the teen’s death. He faced a minimum prison sentence of 10 years.

 

Federal investigators confirmed to the Oregonian/Oregon Live that a private lawyer hired by the Saudi consulate posted $100,000 of a $1 million bail for the 21-year-old and apparently arranged for a dark SUV to pick him up shortly after he left jail.

 

His severed electronic bracelet was found at a nearby gravel yard. Authorities believe he was given a forged passport, since his was sequestered by Oregon authorities, and flown back to Saudi Arabia on a private jet. He was seen back in his home country a week after he disappeared.

 

TRUMP DOES NOTHING

 

Source - https://www.thedailybeast.com/five-saudi-students-accused-of-rape-murder-hit-and-runs-have-fled-oreg...

 

 

 


The Trumpettes love and support the Toad because they think he's "on their side". This article exposes his true allegience to those with lots of money, in this case rich Saudi's, who Trump thinks should be able to kill middle class Americans without penalty.


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@mickstuder wrote:

Every American by now must have heard about how Trump has Covered for the Saudi's when they Kidnapped - Tortured - Murdered & Dismembered Permanent US Resident & Washington Post Reporter Jamal Kashoggi

 

NOW

 

Trump is allowing the Saudi's to RAPE - HIT & RUN - MURDER............American Citizens right here in the United States

 

Five Saudi Students Accused of Rape, Murder, Hit and Runs, Have Fled Oregon Before Trial..................

 

On five occasions, privileged young Saudi men studying in the state of Oregon have been spirited out of the country on fake passports and private planes before their trials.

 

Speaking publicly for the first time Thursday, the parents of Fallon Smart, a 15-year-old victim of a hit and run by Saudi student Abdulrahman Sameer Noorah in 2016, said they were horrified to learn their daughter’s alleged assailant had disappeared two weeks before his trial with the help of the Saudi government. Noorah was charged with manslaughter, felony hit-and-run, and reckless driving in the teen’s death. He faced a minimum prison sentence of 10 years.

 

Federal investigators confirmed to the Oregonian/Oregon Live that a private lawyer hired by the Saudi consulate posted $100,000 of a $1 million bail for the 21-year-old and apparently arranged for a dark SUV to pick him up shortly after he left jail.

 

His severed electronic bracelet was found at a nearby gravel yard. Authorities believe he was given a forged passport, since his was sequestered by Oregon authorities, and flown back to Saudi Arabia on a private jet. He was seen back in his home country a week after he disappeared.

 

TRUMP DOES NOTHING

 

Source - https://www.thedailybeast.com/five-saudi-students-accused-of-rape-murder-hit-and-runs-have-fled-oreg...

 

 

 


In 2014, Abdulaziz Al Duways was arrested on accusations that he drugged and raped a classmate in Monmouth, Oregon. He, too, disappeared after the Saudi consulate helped secure bail.

 

Now about your punchline, TRUMP DOES NOTHING any thoughts??

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THE SAUDI'S ARE SENDING THE USA

 

MURDERERS

 

RAPISTS

 

CRIMINALS OF ALL KINDS

 

I assume some Saudi's are Okay

 

Where is the WALL to prevent Saudi's from Killing & Raping Americans and then getting off Scott Free?

 

 

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WHAT DO THE SAUDI'S LIKE THE RUSSIANS HAVE ON TRUMP?

 

The Oregonian/OregonLive has found criminal cases involving at least five Saudi nationals who vanished before they faced trial or completed their jail sentence in Oregon. They include two accused rapists, a pair of suspected hit-and-run drivers and one man with child porn on his computer.

 

The five cases share many similarities:

 

- All were young men studying at a public college or university in Oregon with assistance from the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia at the time of their arrest.

 

- In four of the cases, the Saudi government stepped in to help, posting large sums of money for bail and possibly underwriting legal fees.

 

Three surrendered their passports.

 

- All disappeared while facing charges or jail time.

 

- The same Oregon defense attorney, Ginger Mooney, was hired to represent the four most recent suspects.

 

- Little is known of the whereabouts of the five, though some have been traced back to Saudi Arabia.

 

The new details add to mounting scrutiny of Saudi Arabia’s conduct abroad after the kingdom’s role in the murder of journalist Jamal Khashoggi in Turkey last fall.

 

Khashoggi, a U.S. resident, was dismembered inside the Saudi Consulate in Istanbul, according to Turkish officials.

 

The CIA believes Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman ordered the killing.

 

The additional cases raise new questions about the role the Saudi government may have played in assisting its citizens fleeing prosecution in Oregon — or possibly elsewhere in the United States.

 

Most puzzling is how some of the students were able to leave the country and travel internationally after they had surrendered their passports.

 

“This is even more evidence that the Saudi government has acted to help its citizens escape justice for crimes committed in Oregon,” Sen. Ron Wyden told The Oregonian/OregonLive in response to learning about the new cases.

 

Source - https://www.oregonlive.com/news/2019/01/gone-more-cases-emerge-of-saudi-students-vanishing-while-fac...

 

 

( " China if You're Listening - Get Trumps Tax Returns " )

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@mickstuder wrote:

Every American by now must have heard about how Trump has Covered for the Saudi's when they Kidnapped - Tortured - Murdered & Dismembered Permanent US Resident & Washington Post Reporter Jamal Kashoggi

 

NOW

 

Trump is allowing the Saudi's to RAPE - HIT & RUN - MURDER............American Citizens right here in the United States

 

Five Saudi Students Accused of Rape, Murder, Hit and Runs, Have Fled Oregon Before Trial..................

 

On five occasions, privileged young Saudi men studying in the state of Oregon have been spirited out of the country on fake passports and private planes before their trials.

 

Speaking publicly for the first time Thursday, the parents of Fallon Smart, a 15-year-old victim of a hit and run by Saudi student Abdulrahman Sameer Noorah in 2016, said they were horrified to learn their daughter’s alleged assailant had disappeared two weeks before his trial with the help of the Saudi government. Noorah was charged with manslaughter, felony hit-and-run, and reckless driving in the teen’s death. He faced a minimum prison sentence of 10 years.

 

Federal investigators confirmed to the Oregonian/Oregon Live that a private lawyer hired by the Saudi consulate posted $100,000 of a $1 million bail for the 21-year-old and apparently arranged for a dark SUV to pick him up shortly after he left jail.

 

His severed electronic bracelet was found at a nearby gravel yard. Authorities believe he was given a forged passport, since his was sequestered by Oregon authorities, and flown back to Saudi Arabia on a private jet. He was seen back in his home country a week after he disappeared.

 

TRUMP DOES NOTHING

 

Source - https://www.thedailybeast.com/five-saudi-students-accused-of-rape-murder-hit-and-runs-have-fled-oreg...

 

 

 


The Trumpettes love and support the Toad because they think he's "on their side". This article exposes his true allegience to those with lots of money, in this case rich Saudi's, who Trump thinks should be able to kill middle class Americans without penalty.

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Every American by now must have heard about how Trump has Covered for the Saudi's when they Kidnapped - Tortured - Murdered & Dismembered Permanent US Resident & Washington Post Reporter Jamal Kashoggi

 

NOW

 

Trump is allowing the Saudi's to RAPE - HIT & RUN - MURDER............American Citizens right here in the United States

 

Five Saudi Students Accused of Rape, Murder, Hit and Runs, Have Fled Oregon Before Trial..................

 

On five occasions, privileged young Saudi men studying in the state of Oregon have been spirited out of the country on fake passports and private planes before their trials.

 

Speaking publicly for the first time Thursday, the parents of Fallon Smart, a 15-year-old victim of a hit and run by Saudi student Abdulrahman Sameer Noorah in 2016, said they were horrified to learn their daughter’s alleged assailant had disappeared two weeks before his trial with the help of the Saudi government. Noorah was charged with manslaughter, felony hit-and-run, and reckless driving in the teen’s death. He faced a minimum prison sentence of 10 years.

 

Federal investigators confirmed to the Oregonian/Oregon Live that a private lawyer hired by the Saudi consulate posted $100,000 of a $1 million bail for the 21-year-old and apparently arranged for a dark SUV to pick him up shortly after he left jail.

 

His severed electronic bracelet was found at a nearby gravel yard. Authorities believe he was given a forged passport, since his was sequestered by Oregon authorities, and flown back to Saudi Arabia on a private jet. He was seen back in his home country a week after he disappeared.

 

TRUMP DOES NOTHING

 

Source - https://www.thedailybeast.com/five-saudi-students-accused-of-rape-murder-hit-and-runs-have-fled-oreg...

 

 

 

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