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@jimc91 wrote:

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@easyed598 wrote:

Coldest winter in decades and the lefties still whining about global warming.Go figure. Next July when we have an 80 degree day they will be yelling -SEE?   BTW-The poster who said that Australia was having a heat wave- The high today is going to be 70 degrees  in Melbourne and they are in the middle of their summer.


Ah, the intentional ignorance of the conservative. In the last 20 years the average temperature increase of the globe was 1.3 degrees. BUT, it is a BIG globe so that "tiny" increase is melting ice caps, raising sea levels AND changing the climate such as the current polar vortex hitting America. It is GLOBAL warming, not a hot summer in Toledo that puts so much extra energy into the atmosphere. 

 

 


Hook, line and sinker...

 

Check your data source, the party talking points are weak on facts.

 

Look it up yourself instead of following the dimms talking points.

 

 


Just read the latest IPCC, all the facts you need are in there.  Instead people who can't understand keep relying on the same discredited facts and studies and pretend they are relevant.

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The left came out with the title Global Warming (see Al Gore Youtubes claiming the world will be flooded in 5 years (15-20 years ago) and when we had cold spells, that didn't work out too well so someone on the left changed the name to "Climate Change". I like that name too because the climate is always changing - sometimes up and sometimes down.

 

The left is just going to listen to their left wing "Climate Scientists" while the right listens to the majority of scientists who says climate changes all the time! I personally like the warmer temps myself, the plants/trees seem to like it warmer, crops grow better, more trees/plants means more oxygen for us to breathe as well as absorbing some of that CO2 that heats us up.

 

The lefts mission - to tax carbon, make fossil fuels so costly that they won't be available to average citizens, use that tax money to redistribute to leftist causes.


Since when has anybody claimed that Gore was a scientist?  Has already been pointed out to you (by me) is that Gore's statement of 5 years came from a possible outcome proposed by one scientist, who scientists did not agree with.

 

By majority of scientists I assume you are talking about the 30,000 plus "scientists" who signed the petition against the Kyoto protocol?  Just a few of the problems with that are as follows:

 

"The petition was created by individuals and groups with political motivations, was distributed using misleading tactics, is presented with almost no accountability regarding the authenticity of its signatures, and asks only that you have received an undergraduate degree in any science to sign."

 

"It is therefore misleading for the signatories to be considered climate scientists or even top researchers in their field, as some suggest. In fact, based on the group’s own numbers, only 12% of the signers have degrees (of any kind) in earth, environmental, or atmospheric science."

 

"Further, the petition and its creators are not neutral parties, and the major entities supporting it can easily be described as politically motivated. The petition was organized by Arthur B. Robinson, a conservative politician who founded the aforementioned Oregon Institute of Science and Medicine and who holds a PhD in biochemistry from the University of San Diego."

 

"Seitz’s participation in the circulation of this petition raises another line of issues for the petition — that its original iteration intentionally misled its signers into thinking it was a document officially supported by the National Academy of Sciences. Seitz, a former president of the Academy, used its official letterhead to draft a letter of support and manufactured a non-peer-reviewed “study” formatted to look as if it were published in an Academy journal,"

 

Scientific American attempted to verify 30 names of people on the list who claimed to have a PHD in climate science and found "Of the 26 we were able to identify in various databases, 11 said they still agreed with the petition — one was an active climate researcher, two others had relevant expertise, and eight signed based on an informal evaluation. Six said they would not sign the petition today, three did not remember any such petition, one had died, and five did not answer repeated messages."

 

"Careful study of the list revealed the names of fictional characters from the “Star Wars” movies as well as the name of pop singer Geri Halliwell from the “Spice Girls” band. Critics of the petition had added bogus names to illustrate the lack of accountability the petition involved, including the difficulty—the practical impossibility—of verifying even the actual existence of each of the signatories, not to mention their expertise. To make the latter point, someone had added the title of “Dr.” to Halliwell’s name."

 

"the petition is open to anyone with an undergraduate background in science to sign, and a vast majority of the signatories are not climate scientists."

 

Or, are you referring to the Leipzig Declaration where "The signatures to the 1995 declaration were disputed by David Olinger of the St. Petersburg Times. In an article on July 29, 1996, he revealed that many signers, including Chauncey Starr, Robert Balling, and Patrick Michaels, have received funding from the oil industry, while others had no scientific training or could not be identified."

 

You are trying to claim that all of climate science because of one statement by Gore that was false, but you are trying to claim climate change is not happening by refrencing or alluding to studies that have already been proven to be false.

 

Our crops will not be "growing better". What will happen is our agriculture regions will move.

 

Your plan is the leave cost of future mitigation to the next generation.  If we have to pay a little more for energy in order to lessen the uses of carbon fuels and encourage the creation of renewable alternatives, then so be it.  SINCE YOU ARE EXPECTING FUTURE GENERATIONS TO PAY FOR YOUR CURRENT ENERGY USAGE, YOU ARE EFFECTIVELY ON AN ENERGY WELFARE PROGRAM.  True conservatives should have learned from the Superfund expenses that you should be paying as you go instead of leaving a huge bill for the future.

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@Richva wrote:

@easyed598 wrote:

Coldest winter in decades and the lefties still whining about global warming.Go figure. Next July when we have an 80 degree day they will be yelling -SEE?   BTW-The poster who said that Australia was having a heat wave- The high today is going to be 70 degrees  in Melbourne and they are in the middle of their summer.


Ah, the intentional ignorance of the conservative. In the last 20 years the average temperature increase of the globe was 1.3 degrees. BUT, it is a BIG globe so that "tiny" increase is melting ice caps, raising sea levels AND changing the climate such as the current polar vortex hitting America. It is GLOBAL warming, not a hot summer in Toledo that puts so much extra energy into the atmosphere. 

 

 


Hook, line and sinker...

 

Check your data source, the party talking points are weak on facts.

 

Look it up yourself instead of following the dimms talking points.

 

 

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And Noona recorded Australia’s highest ever overnight minimum temperature of 96.6°

 

Yes, Australia was having a heat wave. Why would you even try to argue about something that is so easily confirmed?

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------So why aren`t we having the same type of heat wave that Australia is experiencing? There is a reason you libs call it GLOBAL WARMING? One season doesn`t make a case either way or the weather we(North America )  are experiencing now would say global cooling is occuring


Oh my, what an Trumpian thing to say. 

 

We call it climate change; TrumpPets call it global warming or 'waming'. 

 

And again with calling weather and climate the same thing.  What is up with that? 

Simply ludicrous.

 

Yes, one season doesn't make a case; multiple seasons do though


The left came out with the title Global Warming (see Al Gore Youtubes claiming the world will be flooded in 5 years (15-20 years ago) and when we had cold spells, that didn't work out too well so someone on the left changed the name to "Climate Change". I like that name too because the climate is always changing - sometimes up and sometimes down.

 

The left is just going to listen to their left wing "Climate Scientists" while the right listens to the majority of scientists who says climate changes all the time! I personally like the warmer temps myself, the plants/trees seem to like it warmer, crops grow better, more trees/plants means more oxygen for us to breathe as well as absorbing some of that CO2 that heats us up.

 

The lefts mission - to tax carbon, make fossil fuels so costly that they won't be available to average citizens, use that tax money to redistribute to leftist causes.

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Nctarheel wrote-

 

To him, if "IT AIN'T WARM" then they're ....... oops...... their......oops.... there is no GLOBALWAMING.......oops..... WARMING.-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------So if you buy into OCA prediction(the congress woman with a 12 year voice and 12 year old thinking) and a 12 year end of world scenario you must be a climate change denier. The climate is changing -Sometimes it is hot and sometimes it cold. Sometimes it rains and sometimes the sun shine.Noah and his ark didn`t happen because of glaciers melting.


 Because Noah and his ark didn't happen.

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@easyed598 wrote:

And Noona recorded Australia’s highest ever overnight minimum temperature of 96.6°

 

Yes, Australia was having a heat wave. Why would you even try to argue about something that is so easily confirmed?

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------So why aren`t we having the same type of heat wave that Australia is experiencing? There is a reason you libs call it GLOBAL WARMING? One season doesn`t make a case either way or the weather we(North America )  are experiencing now would say global cooling is occuring


We aren't having the same type of heat wave that Australia is experiencing right now because it is winter in North America.

 

We libs call it Climate Change. Climate is not "weather", nor is it one season. The effects of climate change can be seen in the heat wave in Australia and the deep freeze in the American midwest that are occurring now.

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All facts and a lot of theory and none of it will change. The climate will continue to change in cycles as it has for millennia.


Not exactly. The climate will continue to change, but NOT as it has for millennia.

 

Warming of the climate system is unequivocal, and since the 1950s, many of the observed 
changes  are  unprecedented  over  decades  to  millennia.  The  atmosphere  and  ocean  
have  warmed,  the  amounts  of  snow  and  ice  have  diminished,  sea  level  has  
risen,  and  the  concentrations of greenhouse gases have increased.

Scientists agree that today’s warming is primarily caused by humans putting too much 
carbon in the atmosphere.

IPCC

 

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@easyed598 wrote:

Nctarheel wrote-

 

To him, if "IT AIN'T WARM" then they're ....... oops...... their......oops.... there is no GLOBALWAMING.......oops..... WARMING.-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------So if you buy into OCA prediction(the congress woman with a 12 year voice and 12 year old thinking) and a 12 year end of world scenario you must be a climate change denier. The climate is changing -Sometimes it is hot and sometimes it cold. Sometimes it rains and sometimes the sun shine.Noah and his ark didn`t happen because of glaciers melting.


Actually, unlike man made global climate change, Noah's arc just did not happen at all. 

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@easyed598 wrote:

And Noona recorded Australia’s highest ever overnight minimum temperature of 96.6°

 

Yes, Australia was having a heat wave. Why would you even try to argue about something that is so easily confirmed?

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------So why aren`t we having the same type of heat wave that Australia is experiencing? There is a reason you libs call it GLOBAL WARMING? One season doesn`t make a case either way or the weather we(North America )  are experiencing now would say global cooling is occuring


Oh my, what an Trumpian thing to say. 

 

We call it climate change; TrumpPets call it global warming or 'waming'. 

 

And again with calling weather and climate the same thing.  What is up with that? 

Simply ludicrous.

 

Yes, one season doesn't make a case; multiple seasons do though



    

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To him, if "IT AIN'T WARM" then they're ....... oops...... their......oops.... there is no GLOBALWAMING.......oops..... WARMING.-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------So if you buy into OCA prediction(the congress woman with a 12 year voice and 12 year old thinking) and a 12 year end of world scenario you must be a climate change denier. The climate is changing -Sometimes it is hot and sometimes it cold. Sometimes it rains and sometimes the sun shine.Noah and his ark didn`t happen because of glaciers melting.

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