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Fascism - is a form of radical authoritarian nationalism, characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition and control of industry and commerce that came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe.

 

It is what it is......fascism sucks!  


Webster's -Fascism - 1. a govenmental system led  by a dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing oposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, commerce, etc., and emphasizing an agressive nationalism and often racism.  

 

Yup...pretty much the same thing your source says. Couple of possible exceptions today in industry and commerce, but IF you look beyond the 'free market' bull, that's in the future as well.  Can't work otherwise in today's world with today's technology.  

 

You got it nailed though...it is what it is...fascism sucks!  And it someone doesn't want to call it fascism how about an authoritarian oligarchy, or plutocracy, or theocracy.  Whatever gets you where you really, really want to be.


Agree - fascism sucks. But what has that to do with our government? Surely "radical authoritarian nationalism" does not seek petitions.

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I seriously doubt Benito Mussolini started petitions when he wanted something to happen.

 

Another silly topic from the hate cult.


The "petitions" indeed are quite "silly".

 

You'd think that a POTUS would have more important things to do than initiate an absurd "hate cult" for football players.

But then again ..... we're talking Trump!


You miss the point - the topic is silly.


Ahh - so out in the real world - not in the republican/conservative "alternate reality" - it turns out that the topic actually is pertinent and an accurate reflection of what's important in the real world.

Thought so...

 

 

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Sarah Huckaby reinforces the administration's fascism today"

 

""If you want to go after General Kelly, that’s up to you. But I think that if you want to get into a debate with a four-star Marine general, then I think that’s something highly inappropriate,"


Well, let's pull up some notorious propagandists from the past. Multiple sources for this research.  If Fox has anything accurate, I missed 'em.  Google it, Bing it, Yahoo it.  Can't miss.  And, of course, there is the Encyclopedia Brittanica to fall back on if you need to.

 

Let's start with Lord Haw Haw, he's a prominent one.  Even today's kids probably know something about Axis Sally and Tokyo Rose. both of 'em home grown.  There was more than one Tokyo Rose though, some were actually Japanese.  Philippe Herriot was French, a vehement Nazi despite that.

 

Other home grown 'patriots' included a guy who called himself Mr. Guess Wlho, one who patterned himself after Lord Haw Haw and became known as Lord Hee Haw and another on the distaff side called 'The Georgia Peach.  You will note this was an 'equal opportunity' endeavor, the 'ladies' were well represented.. In this profession there didn't appear to be 'glass ceilings'...if you were good, you were good.   

 

I've heard tell 'the donald' is an equal opportunity employer when it comes to propaganda.  I've also heard if the ladies play their cards right, he'll go all the way with them.  That's what I've heard.  From what I've observed, that seems to be the case.  What a guy, huh?

 

The leader of the band was good ol' Joe Goebbels. So....those were some of the more prominent ones......see anything like 'em in today's world?

 

 


And how is any of that related to the silly topic. Did Goebbels push petitions?

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@myexper wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

I seriously doubt Benito Mussolini started petitions when he wanted something to happen.

 

Another silly topic from the hate cult.


The "petitions" indeed are quite "silly".

 

You'd think that a POTUS would have more important things to do than initiate an absurd "hate cult" for football players.

But then again ..... we're talking Trump!


You miss the point - the topic is silly.

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@Centristsin2010 wrote:

 

 

 

Fascism - is a form of radical authoritarian nationalism, characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition and control of industry and commerce that came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe.

 

It is what it is......fascism sucks!  


Webster's -Fascism - 1. a govenmental system led  by a dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing oposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, commerce, etc., and emphasizing an agressive nationalism and often racism.  

 

Yup...pretty much the same thing your source says. Couple of possible exceptions today in industry and commerce, but IF you look beyond the 'free market' bull, that's in the future as well.  Can't work otherwise in today's world with today's technology.  

 

You got it nailed though...it is what it is...fascism sucks!  And it someone doesn't want to call it fascism how about an authoritarian oligarchy, or plutocracy, or theocracy.  Whatever gets you where you really, really want to be.

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@umbarch64 wrote:

@Centristsin2010 wrote:

Sarah Huckaby reinforces the administration's fascism today"

 

""If you want to go after General Kelly, that’s up to you. But I think that if you want to get into a debate with a four-star Marine general, then I think that’s something highly inappropriate,"


Well, let's pull up some notorious propagandists from the past. Multiple sources for this research.  If Fox has anything accurate, I missed 'em.  Google it, Bing it, Yahoo it.  Can't miss.  And, of course, there is the Encyclopedia Brittanica to fall back on if you need to.

 

Let's start with Lord Haw Haw, he's a prominent one.  Even today's kids probably know something about Axis Sally and Tokyo Rose. both of 'em home grown.  There was more than one Tokyo Rose though, some were actually Japanese.  Philippe Herriot was French, a vehement Nazi despite that.

 

Other home grown 'patriots' included a guy who called himself Mr. Guess Wlho, one who patterned himself after Lord Haw Haw and became known as Lord Hee Haw and another on the distaff side called 'The Georgia Peach.  You will note this was an 'equal opportunity' endeavor, the 'ladies' were well represented.. In this profession there didn't appear to be 'glass ceilings'...if you were good, you were good.   

 

I've heard tell 'the donald' is an equal opportunity employer when it comes to propaganda.  I've also heard if the ladies play their cards right, he'll go all the way with them.  That's what I've heard.  From what I've observed, that seems to be the case.  What a guy, huh?

 

The leader of the band was good ol' Joe Goebbels. So....those were some of the more prominent ones......see anything like 'em in today's world?

 Sarah Huckaby sure does stand out ..... a female version of Sean Spicer.

 


 

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@Centristsin2010 wrote:

Sarah Huckaby reinforces the administration's fascism today"

 

""If you want to go after General Kelly, that’s up to you. But I think that if you want to get into a debate with a four-star Marine general, then I think that’s something highly inappropriate,"


Well, let's pull up some notorious propagandists from the past. Multiple sources for this research.  If Fox has anything accurate, I missed 'em.  Google it, Bing it, Yahoo it.  Can't miss.  And, of course, there is the Encyclopedia Brittanica to fall back on if you need to.

 

Let's start with Lord Haw Haw, he's a prominent one.  Even today's kids probably know something about Axis Sally and Tokyo Rose. both of 'em home grown.  There was more than one Tokyo Rose though, some were actually Japanese.  Philippe Herriot was French, a vehement Nazi despite that.

 

Other home grown 'patriots' included a guy who called himself Mr. Guess Wlho, one who patterned himself after Lord Haw Haw and became known as Lord Hee Haw and another on the distaff side called 'The Georgia Peach.  You will note this was an 'equal opportunity' endeavor, the 'ladies' were well represented.. In this profession there didn't appear to be 'glass ceilings'...if you were good, you were good.   

 

I've heard tell 'the donald' is an equal opportunity employer when it comes to propaganda.  I've also heard if the ladies play their cards right, he'll go all the way with them.  That's what I've heard.  From what I've observed, that seems to be the case.  What a guy, huh?

 

The leader of the band was good ol' Joe Goebbels. So....those were some of the more prominent ones......see anything like 'em in today's world?

 

 

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@rk9152 wrote:

I seriously doubt Benito Mussolini started petitions when he wanted something to happen.

 

Another silly topic from the hate cult.


The "petitions" indeed are quite "silly".

 

You'd think that a POTUS would have more important things to do than initiate an absurd "hate cult" for football players.

But then again ..... we're talking Trump!

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I seriously doubt Benito Mussolini started petitions when he wanted something to happen.

 

Another silly topic from the hate cult.

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Trump launches petition against NFL players' anthem protests

 

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump has stepped up the pressure on the National Football League over protests by its players during the national anthem by launching a petition and asking his supporters to show their patriotism by backing it.

 

The move came after NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell this week rejected Trump's calls to punish players who kneel for the anthem to protest racism. Trump has said the protests are unpatriotic and disrespectful of military veterans.

 

"The President has asked for a list of supporters who stand for the National Anthem. Add your name below to show your patriotism and support," said the petition issued on Thursday by the Trump Make America Great Again Committee, a fundraising organization for Trump and Vice President Mike Pence.

 

The petition was published on the Republican National Committee website. It did not indicate how many signatures had been received.

 

Trump launches petition against NFL players' anthem protests

 

The Bully-in-Chief didn't get his way.....so this is what he does.  What a petty jerk.

 

Here's what the NFL said prior to trumps pettiness today....

 

Goodell: NFL believes players should stand for anthem

 

NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell made it clear Wednesday the league believes its players should stand during the national anthem, but said the league has no plans to make them do so.

 

"I think our clubs all see this the same way -- we want our players to stand, we're going to encourage them to stand and we're going to continue to work on these issues in the community,"

 

Goodell told reporters after meeting with team owners at the Fall League Meeting in New York.

 

"We'll address issues -- I can't deal with hypotheticals right now, we'll deal with those issues if they come up -- but for right now, that's our focus."

 

Said Goodell: "The fact is that we have about half a dozen players that are protesting. We hope and continue to work to try to put that at zero -- that's what we'd like to do."

 

On Tuesday, a collection of 13 players, union leaders, 11 team owners and NFL executives met to discuss social issues and plans "to promote equality and effectuate positive change." He said discussions about the national anthem played a big role in this week's meetings.

 

Goodell on Wednesday said the players effectively communicated their reasons for protesting.

 

"One other issue we spent a great deal of time talking about this morning was how much we believe [that] everyone should stand for the national anthem," Goodell said. "It's also an important part of our game, that we all take great pride in. And it's also for us to honor our flag and our country, and we think our fans expect us to do that. And so that was something we continued to focus on this morning. But really talking a lot about with the opportunity that exists with our players to try to go and really make a difference in our communities in a positive way."

 

"They're very clear about it. And they're actually incredibly knowledgeable, articulate and they spent the time going into the communities to talk about that," Goodell said. "... They're talking about criminal justice reform, whether it's bail reform. Whether it's talking about mandatory sentencing.

 

They're talking about changes that, I think, will make our communities better -- that there's bipartisan support for and that need focus. They're talking about what we can do to support them to effectuate that legislative change, and that's, again, very, very positive. They're talking about equality issues, making sure we're doing everything we possibly can to give people an opportunity, whether it's an education or economic and what we can do to try to effectuate that. And we believe, with the players, that we can help them, we can support them. And those are our issues, national issues, American issues that are all important."

 

Goodell also acknowledged the passionate response from many NFL fans around the importance of standing for the anthem.

 

"I understand where our fans feel about this issue -- and we feel the same way. About the importance of our flag, about the importance of patriotism," Goodell said. "And I believe our players feel that same way. They will state to you, and they have stated to everyone publicly, they are not doing this in any way to be disrespectful to the flag, but they also understand how it's being interpreted, and we're dealing with those underlying issues."

 

Goodell repeatedly pointed to "the opportunity that exists with our players to try to go and really make a difference in our communities in a positive way," calling those efforts "things that we all believe are necessary to do, and that's what we'll continue to do" moving forward.

 

"[Our discussions] reflected our commitment to work together with our players on issues of social justice," Goodell said. "I will tell you that our players are men of great character. They have a very deep understanding and tremendous knowledge of the issues that are going on in all of our communities. Their commitment to addressing these issues is really admirable and something that I think our owners looked at as saying 'We want to help you support you. Those are issues that affect us. They're our issues also. We'd like to do it together.'"

 

In a joint statement released last week by the NFL and NFLPA, both the league and union stated there have been no changes to the current policy regarding the national anthem.

 

"We respect our country, we respect our flag, respect our national anthem," Goodell said. "When you look at our clubs and what they do on a daily basis, when you look at our players at what they do and how they participate in that -- we all feel very strongly about our country and our pride, and we will continue to do that."

 

Goodell Believes Players Should Stand For Anthem

 

Fascism - is a form of radical authoritarian nationalism, characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition and control of industry and commerce that came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe.

 

It is what it is......fascism sucks!  


Trumps petition also tells us he s less interested in addressing the issues than the NFL.

and as far as a sampling..RNC website?

So it begins.
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