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I disagree. Nobody complains about any of that. The complaint comes with "insurance," but not "care" for the sick. The sick receive care without insurance.

 

Most people, though, don't want to pay for insurance for individuals or families because the cost is exorbitant. As a former HR rep, the cost for a plan 15 years ago was $900 a month for an individual and $1500 to $2500 for a family per month. How is the country going to be taxed on that? 


You're close.....

 

Insurance is amazingly expensive as you correctly state....you know first hand in your role in H.R.  So, let's not even have insurance and just have the government pay for all "care".  How's that?  Much "less expensive".

 

Now, should the govt. pay for preventative "care"?  Of course!  In the long run it saves on the cost of "sickness care".

 

Go back to the tax rates, corporate and individual that existed pre-trump and you can now pay for this "care".


Phrased another way, "Take money from the corporations that are producing jobs and booming the economy". And the other aspect, "Take more money from those already paying the bills so they can pay more of your bills".


So, you are saying handouts to the wealthy is part of the American way but support for working Americans is communism?


So, I am saying that by no reasonable definition would a person keeping some of that which they earned be called a "handout".

 

I did not mention "Communism" but now that you bring it up, I suppose, "From each.....to each...." could be seen in it.

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@rk9152 wrote:

@Centristsin2010 wrote:

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I disagree. Nobody complains about any of that. The complaint comes with "insurance," but not "care" for the sick. The sick receive care without insurance.

 

Most people, though, don't want to pay for insurance for individuals or families because the cost is exorbitant. As a former HR rep, the cost for a plan 15 years ago was $900 a month for an individual and $1500 to $2500 for a family per month. How is the country going to be taxed on that? 


You're close.....

 

Insurance is amazingly expensive as you correctly state....you know first hand in your role in H.R.  So, let's not even have insurance and just have the government pay for all "care".  How's that?  Much "less expensive".

 

Now, should the govt. pay for preventative "care"?  Of course!  In the long run it saves on the cost of "sickness care".

 

Go back to the tax rates, corporate and individual that existed pre-trump and you can now pay for this "care".


Phrased another way, "Take money from the corporations that are producing jobs and booming the economy". And the other aspect, "Take more money from those already paying the bills so they can pay more of your bills".


So, you are saying handouts to the wealthy is part of the American way but support for working Americans is communism?

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@Centristsin2010 wrote:

@CarissaP85378 wrote:

I disagree. Nobody complains about any of that. The complaint comes with "insurance," but not "care" for the sick. The sick receive care without insurance.

 

Most people, though, don't want to pay for insurance for individuals or families because the cost is exorbitant. As a former HR rep, the cost for a plan 15 years ago was $900 a month for an individual and $1500 to $2500 for a family per month. How is the country going to be taxed on that? 


You're close.....

 

Insurance is amazingly expensive as you correctly state....you know first hand in your role in H.R.  So, let's not even have insurance and just have the government pay for all "care".  How's that?  Much "less expensive".

 

Now, should the govt. pay for preventative "care"?  Of course!  In the long run it saves on the cost of "sickness care".

 

Go back to the tax rates, corporate and individual that existed pre-trump and you can now pay for this "care".


Phrased another way, "Take money from the corporations that are producing jobs and booming the economy". And the other aspect, "Take more money from those already paying the bills so they can pay more of your bills".

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@CarissaP85378 wrote:

I disagree. Nobody complains about any of that. The complaint comes with "insurance," but not "care" for the sick. The sick receive care without insurance.

 

Most people, though, don't want to pay for insurance for individuals or families because the cost is exorbitant. As a former HR rep, the cost for a plan 15 years ago was $900 a month for an individual and $1500 to $2500 for a family per month. How is the country going to be taxed on that? 


You're close.....

 

Insurance is amazingly expensive as you correctly state....you know first hand in your role in H.R.  So, let's not even have insurance and just have the government pay for all "care".  How's that?  Much "less expensive".

 

Now, should the govt. pay for preventative "care"?  Of course!  In the long run it saves on the cost of "sickness care".

 

Go back to the tax rates, corporate and individual that existed pre-trump and you can now pay for this "care".


"FAKE 45 #illegitimate" read a sign at the Woman's March in Washington DC, January 21, 2017.
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How appropriate the agreement with a wealth redistribution group from some. Class envy or the pathway to collectivism?


Regardless of what you may post - the inexorable multiple millennium long movement of H. Sapiens - the human race - has been to the left rather than to the right - and it will inexorably continue that movement provided it continues to survive and reproduce as a genus and species.

 

Ultimately, the mentally unstable and malignantly narcissistic Trump will have no more long term effect upon  the human race than a flatus in a hurricane.

He is useless on top of the ground - he should be under it - inspiring the cabbages... Mark Twain 1894
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How appropriate the agreement with a wealth redistribution group from some. Class envy or the pathway to collectivism?

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@CarissaP85378 wrote:

I disagree. Nobody complains about any of that. The complaint comes with "insurance," but not "care" for the sick. The sick receive care without insurance.

 

Most people, though, don't want to pay for insurance for individuals or families because the cost is exorbitant. As a former HR rep, the cost for a plan 15 years ago was $900 a month for an individual and $1500 to $2500 for a family per month. How is the country going to be taxed on that? 


I suppose that depends upon the definition of "care". People who cannot pay for health care, whether through insurance or their own pockets, do not receive any preventative care, only catastrophic intervention.  This creates a sicker society than any developed nation in the world. It also creates the most expensive health care system in the world. 

 

Our system is akin to saving money by never putting oil in your car but periodically paying for an engine rebuild.

 

I suggest we stop being stupid about how we provide health care and take the examples of systems which actually work to provide a healthy citizenry. 

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CarissaP:   The sick receive care without insurance.

 

 

 

Just curious.....where and how do the sick without insurance receive care?

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I disagree. Nobody complains about any of that. The complaint comes with "insurance," but not "care" for the sick. The sick receive care without insurance.

 

Most people, though, don't want to pay for insurance for individuals or families because the cost is exorbitant. As a former HR rep, the cost for a plan 15 years ago was $900 a month for an individual and $1500 to $2500 for a family per month. How is the country going to be taxed on that? 

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The point is that republicans, conservatives and trump supporters lie like rubber backed bathroom rugs - what they say cannot be trusted to be true.

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