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Well isn’t that special...letters from trump supporters. 

What is mr. special up to: campaigned in Pennsylvania. Played to his base. Spoke to pro-life group. Spoke to how special kids lives are...maybe except the millions kids in DACA and CHIP coverage. 

Played to his base. He has this “gift”

of playing to the minority and ignoring the majority. 

Oh, did I mention that the government might shut down? Because of trump’s inaction...is this kinda like the Nero and Rome burning story! Let’s go to Florida for a fundraiser! Whoppee!

And one of the letters mentioned the hatred shown towards trump.,.do these people live in caves? Did they watch trump rallies and the hatred shown towards Hillary? And the alt rights’ hatred of Obama?

Please keep blowing up your trump ballon, but watch out for the “pin”. 

The pin of the trump financials which are starting to come out...POP!

 

Still waiting for trump to do something good

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Epster wrote:

 

 

Your turn: knock yourselves out. Smiley Happy

 


You list a bunch of letters to the editor, comments from a shrinking group of far right trump supporters, nice cherry picking.  Trump has a 39% approval rating, the lowest of any president after his first year in modern history.  The percentage in that 39% that "strongly support him" isn't much into double digits. Trump has less support after his first year in office than any president has had in our modern history. Yeah, keep bragging about trump and his 'support'. Three more years is the very most that trump can hope for.

 

As to the actual topic:

 

NOTHING, absolutely NOTHING you have posted addresses or debunks what was presented to you in this topic.


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Yes, Resistance, tell yourselves whatever you must in order to continue to dream of removing President Trump from office. I like that the Resistance can entertain themselves with nursery rhymes and fairytales. It's invigorating.

 

Meanwhile, out here in the real world, this conversation is going on ... from the NYT: 

‘Vision, Chutzpah and Some Testosterone’

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/17/opinion/trump-voters-supporters.html?smid=tw-nytopinion&smtyp=cur

 

To the Editor:

Donald Trump has succeeded where Barack Obama failed. The economy is up, foreign tyrants are afraid, ISIS has lost most of its territory, our embassy will be moved to Jerusalem and tax reform is accomplished. More than that, Mr. Trump is learning, adapting and getting savvier every day. Entitlement reform is next! Lastly, the entrenched interests in Washington, which have done nothing but glad-hand one another, and both political parties are angry and afraid.

Who knew that all it would take to make progress was vision, chutzpah and some testosterone?

STEVEN SANABRIA
OAKDALE, CALIF.

 

To the Editor:

I voted against Hillary Clinton more than I voted for Donald Trump. That said, President Trump has exceeded my wildest expectations. Yes, he is embarrassing. Yes, he picks unnecessary fights. But he also pushed tax reform through, has largely defeated ISIS in Iraq, has named a number of solid conservative judges, has prioritized American citizens over illegal immigrants, has gotten us out of several bad international agreements, has removed a number of wasteful regulations, is putting real pressure on North Korea and Iran, has reined in a number of out-of-control agencies, and so on and so on.

 

I loved George W. Bush, but he failed on policy over and over again. If it takes putting up with Mr. Trump’s brash ways to see things get done, that is a deal I’m willing to accept. To be honest, I’m not sure he would have accomplished what he has so far without being an unrelenting public bully.

 

JASON PECK
HOLTSVILLE, N.Y.

To the Editor:

I voted for Donald Trump and, considering the alternative, I would do so again. Newsflash: Not all Trump voters are Hillary Clinton’s “deplorables.” Many of us are well-informed and highly educated, and we are weary of the Democrats’ tiresome focus on identity politics, class warfare, and disparagement of corporations and the “wealthy.”

 

Opinion polls give Mr. Trump a low rating, and I would, too, for character, personality and temperament. But I would give him high marks for policies and programs that are stimulating the private sector, which, after all, pays the bills for the Democrats’ extravagant welfare programs. And because of Mr. Trump we have an education secretary who actually cares more about educating children than appeasing the teachers’ unions.

 

Even more important, we desperately needed a seismic change in the pusillanimous foreign policy pursued during the Obama years, which emboldened our adversaries, including China, Russia, North Korea and Middle East militants. I also support a more robust approach to border security and illegal immigration, which could still entail legal residency for law-abiding Dreamers but not an undeserved pathway to citizenship.

DAVID MACNEIL
CHATHAM, N.J.

 

To the Editor:

Yes, I was a Trump voter. There, I’ve said it. Though I am subjecting myself to derision, I think that President Trump has performed well policywise. Changes for the good of our country in both foreign and domestic affairs have happened under his watch.

 

Much of the media, as the hotbed of hatred against Mr. Trump, has pushed me more toward him than his social behavior has done the opposite.

SONIA SCHWARTZ
VALLEY STREAM, N.Y.

 

To the Editor:

Not only did I vote for him, but I also made more than 5,000 calls on his behalf (and I’ve been a registered Democrat for 40 years). So far I am thrilled with his performance. Numerous reasons, but here are a few: recognition of Jerusalem as Israel’s capital; letting the generals crush ISIS; stronger plans to prevent North Korea and Iran from using nuclear weapons; getting out of biased United Nations organizations; and respect for the flag and the rule of law.

 

I thank my dear New York Times for asking to hear from Trump voters. It’s been difficult to read the paper this past year. It’s anti-Trump in everything from the front page to fashion. It’s so pervasive that I wouldn’t be surprised to learn that there’s not another loyal New York Times reader out there who voted for Mr. Trump and that I’m sending the only submission. New York Times, I will always love you, despite our disagreement.

ELLEN MACKLER
NEW HAVEN

 

To the Editor:

A president like Donald Trump only appears every 100 years or so. He came to office with a solid Electoral College majority and a history of strong leadership of people from all walks of life. His positive agenda can be boiled down to national security and economic growth.

 

By any measure President Trump’s first year has shown prodigious progress. As a child of the ’60s I admire his iconoclastic nature, optimism and unapologetic humanity. When asked during the campaign about his truthfulness, he replied that maybe he is too truthful. He does ruffle feathers, but seems to end up being right about most important things. I think Mr. Trump is doing a terrific job against all odds, and is getting better. I am proud when I see the First Couple representing us on the world stage. Tens of millions of thoughtful, compassionate Americans agree with me.

DAN LOREY
CINCINNATI

 

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And yes, I'll unsubbing this thread right after I post. And, yes, I've set my personal email spam filters to dump @replies from those here that post rabid angry namecalling 'rebuttals' because I am not going to waste time on that behavior. I post this not because I expect those posters to care, but as explanation of why I shall not be posting to this thread again. I am not being shouted down, I am making more productive choices. 

 

Your turn: knock yourselves out. Smiley Happy

 

 

 

 


I think you missed a couple of points in my comments.  

1. Trump has proposed fewer appointees than any other president.  It may be because his administration cannot get their act together. It may be because no one wants to risk their reputation working in this administration. It may be because of Trump's management style. But it IS a fact. 

2. This is making it possible for the career staff to make changes in their organizations and across the board in government without interference from the Trump administration. 

 

Since you have unsubsidized after posting all those letters to the editor, you won't see this but others will. Thanks for the opportunity to reiterate how incompetent this administration is. 

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Yes, Resistance, tell yourselves whatever you must in order to continue to dream of removing President Trump from office. I like that the Resistance can entertain themselves with nursery rhymes and fairytales. It's invigorating.

 

Meanwhile, out here in the real world, this conversation is going on ... from the NYT: 

‘Vision, Chutzpah and Some Testosterone’

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/17/opinion/trump-voters-supporters.html?smid=tw-nytopinion&smtyp=cur

 

To the Editor:

Donald Trump has succeeded where Barack Obama failed. The economy is up, foreign tyrants are afraid, ISIS has lost most of its territory, our embassy will be moved to Jerusalem and tax reform is accomplished. More than that, Mr. Trump is learning, adapting and getting savvier every day. Entitlement reform is next! Lastly, the entrenched interests in Washington, which have done nothing but glad-hand one another, and both political parties are angry and afraid.

Who knew that all it would take to make progress was vision, chutzpah and some testosterone?

STEVEN SANABRIA
OAKDALE, CALIF.

 

To the Editor:

I voted against Hillary Clinton more than I voted for Donald Trump. That said, President Trump has exceeded my wildest expectations. Yes, he is embarrassing. Yes, he picks unnecessary fights. But he also pushed tax reform through, has largely defeated ISIS in Iraq, has named a number of solid conservative judges, has prioritized American citizens over illegal immigrants, has gotten us out of several bad international agreements, has removed a number of wasteful regulations, is putting real pressure on North Korea and Iran, has reined in a number of out-of-control agencies, and so on and so on.

 

I loved George W. Bush, but he failed on policy over and over again. If it takes putting up with Mr. Trump’s brash ways to see things get done, that is a deal I’m willing to accept. To be honest, I’m not sure he would have accomplished what he has so far without being an unrelenting public bully.

 

JASON PECK
HOLTSVILLE, N.Y.

To the Editor:

I voted for Donald Trump and, considering the alternative, I would do so again. Newsflash: Not all Trump voters are Hillary Clinton’s “deplorables.” Many of us are well-informed and highly educated, and we are weary of the Democrats’ tiresome focus on identity politics, class warfare, and disparagement of corporations and the “wealthy.”

 

Opinion polls give Mr. Trump a low rating, and I would, too, for character, personality and temperament. But I would give him high marks for policies and programs that are stimulating the private sector, which, after all, pays the bills for the Democrats’ extravagant welfare programs. And because of Mr. Trump we have an education secretary who actually cares more about educating children than appeasing the teachers’ unions.

 

Even more important, we desperately needed a seismic change in the pusillanimous foreign policy pursued during the Obama years, which emboldened our adversaries, including China, Russia, North Korea and Middle East militants. I also support a more robust approach to border security and illegal immigration, which could still entail legal residency for law-abiding Dreamers but not an undeserved pathway to citizenship.

DAVID MACNEIL
CHATHAM, N.J.

 

To the Editor:

Yes, I was a Trump voter. There, I’ve said it. Though I am subjecting myself to derision, I think that President Trump has performed well policywise. Changes for the good of our country in both foreign and domestic affairs have happened under his watch.

 

Much of the media, as the hotbed of hatred against Mr. Trump, has pushed me more toward him than his social behavior has done the opposite.

SONIA SCHWARTZ
VALLEY STREAM, N.Y.

 

To the Editor:

Not only did I vote for him, but I also made more than 5,000 calls on his behalf (and I’ve been a registered Democrat for 40 years). So far I am thrilled with his performance. Numerous reasons, but here are a few: recognition of Jerusalem as Israel’s capital; letting the generals crush ISIS; stronger plans to prevent North Korea and Iran from using nuclear weapons; getting out of biased United Nations organizations; and respect for the flag and the rule of law.

 

I thank my dear New York Times for asking to hear from Trump voters. It’s been difficult to read the paper this past year. It’s anti-Trump in everything from the front page to fashion. It’s so pervasive that I wouldn’t be surprised to learn that there’s not another loyal New York Times reader out there who voted for Mr. Trump and that I’m sending the only submission. New York Times, I will always love you, despite our disagreement.

ELLEN MACKLER
NEW HAVEN

 

To the Editor:

A president like Donald Trump only appears every 100 years or so. He came to office with a solid Electoral College majority and a history of strong leadership of people from all walks of life. His positive agenda can be boiled down to national security and economic growth.

 

By any measure President Trump’s first year has shown prodigious progress. As a child of the ’60s I admire his iconoclastic nature, optimism and unapologetic humanity. When asked during the campaign about his truthfulness, he replied that maybe he is too truthful. He does ruffle feathers, but seems to end up being right about most important things. I think Mr. Trump is doing a terrific job against all odds, and is getting better. I am proud when I see the First Couple representing us on the world stage. Tens of millions of thoughtful, compassionate Americans agree with me.

DAN LOREY
CINCINNATI

 

The article goes on...

 

And yes, I'll unsubbing this thread right after I post. And, yes, I've set my personal email spam filters to dump @replies from those here that post rabid angry namecalling 'rebuttals' because I am not going to waste time on that behavior. I post this not because I expect those posters to care, but as explanation of why I shall not be posting to this thread again. I am not being shouted down, I am making more productive choices. 

 

Your turn: knock yourselves out. Smiley Happy

 

 

 

 

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We can certainly hope! Such as the very telling appointment of an unknown 25 year old to head up the work on the opiod crisis. Also the number of committee people who have just walked out. Then add others of his administration who have been shown the door and walked out the door. trump has not been able to find credible people to replace them. But go back to the start, he did not hire credible people to begin with...would those people have been even considered by other administrations?

So I would hope that many career department people will have a chance to regain a prominence within their given fields!

 

Keep hope alive!

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One interesting side effect of Trump being unable to get political appointees to work for his administration is the rising power of the professional staff of top employees. They have the ability to upset the status quoAs of Friday, about 40 percent of key, Senate-confirmed appointments had no nominees, according to the Partnership for Public Service. This will give the career employees the ability to shake up the status quo making permanent changes.

 

HEY, look, Trump's plan of change through  incompetence is working. 

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