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The frightening thing is that while Trump surrounds hjimself with those who know as little or less than he does, the world is watching. Though he would like to isolate us from the rest of the world in his zeal to make us GREAT AGAIN, some countries will be very happy to take advantage of our weaknesses.

 

I can't recall a time when it was questionable who would come to our aide, if we were being attacked? We had allies back in the day, but Trump has been doing a great job at pushing them away, so who will help us if we need help?

 

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In 2016, the US-led coalition dropped 30,743 bombs on Iraq and Syria.


In 2017, it dropped 39,577.


In 2018, the coalition dropped over 6,800 bombs.


The civilian death toll reached up to 10,000 - 11,000.


Mosul resident and civilian, Abdel Rahman Ali, lost five children to the blitz. “Nobody destroyed us except the coalition,” he told the BBC.


Instead of being decapitated and immolated by Daesh, thousands of inhabitants of Mosul were blown to pieces and incinerated by US-British bombs.


https://www.counterpunch.org/2019/07/04/life-among-the-rubble-mosul-18-months-after-liberation/

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My questions to Regressives are:

WHO, exactly, says we should have open borders?

HOW are needs of immigrants being put above those of Natural born citizens?

 

My facts for Regressives include these:

You do NOT make America Safe by destroying all our alliances  with Democracies then replacing them with obsequious fawning over blood soaked tyrants and insuring our criminals can buy military grade weapons to slaughter us with.

 

You do NOT make America First by transfering all the income and wealth from the bottom 90% to the top 10%, most to the top 1%. Nor can you continue shredding the social safety net and refusing to fund education, Social Security and Medicare as a way to privatize them.

 

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@afisher wrote:

   But but but, Donald said that he had conquered ISIS and won the war.   

 

   WOW, did you read any of this report...it shows the stupidity of the WH process.   Holding 10K people in pop-up like camps - what could possibly go wrong. 

 

    As one of the newly elected Congressional members so aptly said - IT IS ALL ABOUT THE BENJAMINS...and Donald decided to attempt to resolve this issue on the cheap, sigh.   She was correct!


No, that would be Obomba who claimed he (alone) conquered ISIS.  My question for all the Socialist Liberals is - you want open borders, people allowed to flee from the country into ours, etc.  Will you also blame Pres Trump (as is the norm with your party) when ISIS walks across our border, disappears into our country, and then causes damage as big as (or worse than) 9-11?

 

This one would be totally on all the Socialist Liberals who put illegals above the needs of American citizens, and would NEVER allow our president to do his job and keep America first and safe.

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Guess I am not the only one saying "I told you so"

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When you're dumb as a post with an ego the size of a planet, you MUST surround yourself with sycophants because reasonable people will cause constant innerlinear tension in your internal dialogue and this leads to exploding heads and soiled diddies, or in tRumps case, both.

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    The big concern is that he no longer has any one who dares to confront him with negative information.    A good leader makes sure that they are never surrounded by yes people.   Donald has gone out of his way to surround himself with "yes sir" folks.    

    When reading these reports, remember that most have already resigned before the report was published to avoid the backlash and to have maintained some degree of dignity.

 

    I strongly recommend reading at least the Exec Summary - which is 8 pages more than Donald will ever read.   sigh

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Exactly the results you expect from a gutless draftdodger who tells the World he's much smarter than all the Generals and Admirals, and gets better intelligence reports from Putin than the CIA give him.

 

Hitler had the same effect on Germany's war fighting ability and with amateur hour at the White House, it will only get worse until 20 Jan 2021 when the preppytwit swaps his Italian silks for an orange jumpsuit.

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   But but but, Donald said that he had conquered ISIS and won the war.   

 

   WOW, did you read any of this report...it shows the stupidity of the WH process.   Holding 10K people in pop-up like camps - what could possibly go wrong. 

 

    As one of the newly elected Congressional members so aptly said - IT IS ALL ABOUT THE BENJAMINS...and Donald decided to attempt to resolve this issue on the cheap, sigh.   She was correct!

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https://www.businessinsider.com/pentagon-blames-trump-for-return-of-isis-syria-and-iraq-2019-8?utm_s...

 

A scathing new Pentagon report blames Trump for the return of ISIS in Syria and Iraq

 

 

  • The Pentagon inspector general issued a report to Congress saying that the Islamic State is again growing in power in Syria and Iraq, with approximately 14,000 to 18,000 militants.
  • The report specifically said President Donald Trump's decision to rapidly draw down troops in Syria and pull diplomatic staff from Iraq increased instability and allowed the militants to regroup.
  • Former Special Presidential Envoy Brett McGurk, who resigned following the drawdown announcement, has repeatedly warned of this scenario, saying that Trump's policies would lead to chaos and "an environment for extremists to thrive."
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A report from the Pentagon inspector general found that President Donald Trump's decision to rapidly pull troops out of Syria and divert attention from diplomacy in Iraq has inadvertently aided the Islamic State's regrouping in Syria and Iraq.

 

The Department of Defense's quarterly report to Congress on the effectiveness of the US Operation Inherent Resolve mission said that "ISIS continued its transition from a territory-holding force to an insurgency in Syria, and it intensified its insurgency in Iraq" — even though Trump said ISIS was defeated and the caliphate quashed, The Wall Street Journal reported.

 

Many officials and experts have repeatedly warned that a rapid US withdrawal from Syria would enable ISIS to regroup into an insurgency after their battlefield defeats by the US-led coalition.

 

The IG's report also explicitly said the troop drawdown in Syria, which Trump announced at the end of last year, contributed to instability in the region. The drawdown, which prompted the resignation of Defense Secretary Jim Mattis, left the US's Syrian partners in the lurch, without the training or support they needed to confront a resurgent ISIS. In Iraq, the Iraqi security forces lack the necessary infrastructure to fight off ISIS for sustained periods.

 

ISIS is estimated to have 14,000 to 18,000 combatants, according to the report, who are carrying out assassinations, suicides, crop burnings, and ambushes in Iraq and Syria — different from the large-scale attempts to seize territory since 2014 but a violent threat to civilians in both countries nonetheless.

 

Perhaps more importantly, ISIS is again generating revenue by extorting civilians in both countries, kidnapping for ransom, and skimming money from rebuilding contracts. This decentralized method of income generation — unlike the detailed tax and revenue system ISIS employed during its caliphate — makes the income more difficult to track.

 

The al-Hol refugee camp in Syria seems to be a perfect storm for ISIS recruitment — thousands of internally displaced people, security forces unable to guard the area against insurgents, and little US support to maintain safe conditions or counter ISIS propaganda.

 

The Trump administration's decision to focus its attention on Iran reduced its capacity to effectively counter ISIS in Iraq and Syria, according to Brett McGurk, the former special presidential envoy for the Global Coalition to Counter ISIS who served under Presidents George W. Bush, Barack Obama, and Donald Trump.

 

McGurk, like Mattis, resigned his post after Trump announced his drawdown. In a January op-ed, he warned that Trump's policies in the region would give "new life" to ISIS and other US adversaries, and that the decision would "precipitate chaos and an environment for extremists to thrive," exactly what the IG's report said was happening on the ground.

 

The US has the same expectations of success in Syria, but now without putting in the resources to ensure that success; with around 1,000 troops in Syria, it expects to counter ISIS, stop Syrian President Bashar Assad from developing weapons of mass destruction, and counter Iranian influence.

 

The decision to pull nonemergency personnel from Iraq reduced US diplomatic influence there, and, according to the State Department, reduced humanitarian groups' ability to offer support.

Trump campaigned in part on a promise to withdraw the US from conflicts in the Middle East, as part of his "America First" policy. But his shortsighted decision-making based on that premise doesn't just destabilize Iraq and Syria, it also has the potential to do the same in Afghanistan, where the US is negotiating with the Taliban to withdraw from the country.

 

There, an ISIS branch, ISIS Khorasan, or ISIS K, is gaining ground and recruiting militants disillusioned with the Taliban's decision to operate as a political entity and not, primarily, as a jihadi one. As the Middle East expert Nicholas Heras of the Center for a New American Security previously told INSIDER, ISIS K is trying to make the case that Afghanistan is the perfect place to wage holy war on a multiplicity of fronts.

 

"ISIS K will likely succeed," Heras said.

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