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@n566192l wrote:

Richva,

I have a question.. Why is it that the President is allowed to intimidate people who Mueller is dealing with in the Russia investigation. Whether, in open Tweets or calling into Fox 5, always intimidating. Example Cohen's father in-law.


Since rich doesns't have an answer, I'll give it a go.

 

Remember, looking into acquiring NYC taxi medallions was one of the tools used by Mueller to try to get Cohen to flip on his former client. Cohen's father-in-law pled guilty to tax fraud in relation to his taxi business. 

 

Is there a connection - I don't know but Mueller opened the door. You really can't complain about who walks through it.

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Faced with reality... they go full delusional.

Ignorance is a disease. Sorry, but you can't handle the truth.


Wait, you mean Americans are NOT working full time jobs and having to accept food stamps? WELL that is a relief.  A lie, but a relief. 

 

Or, are you suggesting out standard of living is higher than Canada or Norway?  Hardly

 

How about economic mobility? Nope. lose there too. 

 

Which set of facts do you find delusional? 

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Richva,

I have a question.. Why is it that the President is allowed to intimidate people who Mueller is dealing with in the Russia investigation. Whether, in open Tweets or calling into Fox 5, always intimidating. Example Cohen's father in-law.

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Faced with reality... they go full delusional.

Ignorance is a disease. Sorry, but you can't handle the truth.


"Liberals are totalitarians screaming to get out"
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Let's have a little contest. We will let the conservatives economic policies have a shot at running America and see how they do. Then we will try something else. 

 

You guys have 200 years to tweak your economic policies such that 78% of Americans are not living paycheck to paycheck, teachers make a living wage, and no full time employee has to accept food stamps for a family of 3........ready..................go.......... Oh look, times up....how did we do Wink?  OOOOOOO to bad Conservatives.  

 

Now lets look at how every other country in the developed world is doing.

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Yep ... those 1%'ers who pay most of all taxes. Marie Antoinette is no longer alive.

https://taxfoundation.org/summary-latest-federal-income-tax-data-2016-update/


No, but her spirit, and that of the French Court she was part of, is alive and well inside your current Republican leadership and those who blindly follow them because those leaders hurt the people the followers hate - mostly the poor and nonwhite.

 

When in human history did the 1% (more like 10%) NOT pay the vast preponderance of taxes?

Have you discovered some hitherto unknown mechanism where a civilization has advanced WITHOUT the advancement being "financed" by the wealthiest citizens?


I don't think anyone is complaining about the rich carrying the heavy load. It is when some say, "It isn't enough. I want more of their money" that questions arise.


You hear it every day when the left complain that the "rich" aren't paying their fair share and then the list of the programs they want started begins, many of them scams to collect more money like the "green initiative".

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@Fishslayer777 wrote:

Yep ... those 1%'ers who pay most of all taxes. Marie Antoinette is no longer alive.

https://taxfoundation.org/summary-latest-federal-income-tax-data-2016-update/


No, but her spirit, and that of the French Court she was part of, is alive and well inside your current Republican leadership and those who blindly follow them because those leaders hurt the people the followers hate - mostly the poor and nonwhite.

 

When in human history did the 1% (more like 10%) NOT pay the vast preponderance of taxes?

Have you discovered some hitherto unknown mechanism where a civilization has advanced WITHOUT the advancement being "financed" by the wealthiest citizens?


I don't think anyone is complaining about the rich carrying the heavy load. It is when some say, "It isn't enough. I want more of their money" that questions arise.

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@rk9152 wrote:

@Richva wrote:

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@Olderscout66 wrote:

The solution is not in the least "painful" - it is simply a return to what gave us the Greatest Nation on Earth for 40 years and discard that which made us a 3d world country with nukes.

 

The rich will not wither and die because they do what their grandparents did, nor will people stop working and become "dependant" on Government because they have a fair share of what they help produce.


If this was the message to "rich" people, how effective a case for "fairness", do you believe you just made? 

 

 


You mean the one where billionaires have private heliports on their penthouse apartments while people who work full time jobs need to accept food stamp?  THAT justification?


If a person earns a heliport - it's his. If a person has so little to bring to the workplace that he must be fed by the government - thank the guy with the heliport, he bought dinner....with the wages he stole from the guy who works full time and still needs food stamps to feed his family.

 

There is no way any sane person can justify the income structure that has evolved since the Reagan taxscam. The scum who bankrupted SEARS and destroyed the livelyhood of 175,000 hard working people pocketed A BILLION DOLLARS FOR HIMSELF. The gaggle of dirtbags who pillaged Hostes Foods walked off with more BILLIONS while ending the careers of 85,000 workers. A hedge fund manager took home SIX BILLION DOLLARS in a single year while producing NOTHING TANGIBLE. The Corporate Oligarchs who occupy the positions once held by the likes of JD Rockefeller, TA Edison and H Ford give themselves an inflation adjusted 300% MORE for what THEY do than the founders took for themselves. Then the new Oligarchs give all their employees less in real income than their predecessors made in 1970.

 

So tell me again how that top 1% or even 10% has actually EARNED the income they connived to STEAL from the owners and workers of their companies?


Capitalism isn't nirvana and I don't think there is anyone foolish enough to believe our system and capitalists in it, do everything right. However,  if they stay within the bounds of the law, you know... the vast majority of American businesses, then how is that stealing? 

You can't paint rich folks with that broad a brush.... because you make it just another talking point within a lie. That is the preverbial hole in the "bottom" of the bucket. 


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@rk9152 wrote:

@Richva wrote:

@Fishslayer777 wrote:

@Olderscout66 wrote:

The solution is not in the least "painful" - it is simply a return to what gave us the Greatest Nation on Earth for 40 years and discard that which made us a 3d world country with nukes.

 

The rich will not wither and die because they do what their grandparents did, nor will people stop working and become "dependant" on Government because they have a fair share of what they help produce.


If this was the message to "rich" people, how effective a case for "fairness", do you believe you just made? 

 

 


You mean the one where billionaires have private heliports on their penthouse apartments while people who work full time jobs need to accept food stamp?  THAT justification?


If a person earns a heliport - it's his. If a person has so little to bring to the workplace that he must be fed by the government - thank the guy with the heliport, he bought dinner....with the wages he stole from the guy who works full time and still needs food stamps to feed his family.

 

There is no way any sane person can justify the income structure that has evolved since the Reagan taxscam. The scum who bankrupted SEARS and destroyed the livelyhood of 175,000 hard working people pocketed A BILLION DOLLARS FOR HIMSELF. The gaggle of dirtbags who pillaged Hostes Foods walked off with more BILLIONS while ending the careers of 85,000 workers. A hedge fund manager took home SIX BILLION DOLLARS in a single year while producing NOTHING TANGIBLE. The Corporate Oligarchs who occupy the positions once held by the likes of JD Rockefeller, TA Edison and H Ford give themselves an inflation adjusted 300% MORE for what THEY do than the founders took for themselves. Then the new Oligarchs give all their employees less in real income than their predecessors made in 1970.

 

So tell me again how that top 1% or even 10% has actually EARNED the income they connived to STEAL from the owners and workers of their companies?

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Our (money) taxes are like crack to democrats. More is the ONLY answer, never the hard choice of getting that monkey off our collective back. If we can't clean up our act we will have to go cold turkey .... one day. Republican hand are dirty too.

 

Term limnits will help!


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