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@Olderscout66 wrote:

 

When in human history did the 1% (more like 10%) NOT pay the vast preponderance of taxes?


 

 

Right now those 10% (you hate) do pay the majority of all income taxes - in fact 70.6% exactly. Google it to refresh your memory. Now you want to gouge them some more just so you don't have to pay anything?

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@Fishslayer777 wrote:

Yep ... those 1%'ers who pay most of all taxes. Marie Antoinette is no longer alive.

https://taxfoundation.org/summary-latest-federal-income-tax-data-2016-update/


No, but her spirit, and that of the French Court she was part of, is alive and well inside your current Republican leadership and those who blindly follow them because those leaders hurt the people the followers hate - mostly the poor and nonwhite.

 

When in human history did the 1% (more like 10%) NOT pay the vast preponderance of taxes?

Have you discovered some hitherto unknown mechanism where a civilization has advanced WITHOUT the advancement being "financed" by the wealthiest citizens?

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The problem isn't that we don't have enough money... the problem is politicians don't have the will to make good decisions with our money. Our government is failing at governing.
Term limits will help.

"Liberals are totalitarians screaming to get out"
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@Fishslayer777 wrote:

Yep ... those 1%'ers who pay most of all taxes. Marie Antoinette is no longer alive.

https://taxfoundation.org/summary-latest-federal-income-tax-data-2016-update/


they do pay the most, about 53% but the top 10% owns about 80% of the nations wealth so they should be paying 80% of the taxes. 


The top 10% earners in this country are getting gouged at 70.6% of all income taxes collected! The lower 90% are paying ONLY 29.4%.

 

https://www.dailysignal.com/2017/10/18/rich-pay-fair-share-numbers/

 

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@Olderscout66 wrote:

The solution is not in the least "painful" - it is simply a return to what gave us the Greatest Nation on Earth for 40 years and discard that which made us a 3d world country with nukes.

 

The rich will not wither and die because they do what their grandparents did, nor will people stop working and become "dependant" on Government because they have a fair share of what they help produce.


If this was the message to "rich" people, how effective a case for "fairness", do you believe you just made? 

 

 


You mean the one where billionaires have private heliports on their penthouse apartments while people who work full time jobs need to accept food stamp?  THAT justification?


If a person earns a heliport - it's his. If a person has so little to bring to the workplace that he must be fed by the government - thank the guy with the heliport, he bought dinner.

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@Olderscout66 wrote:

The solution is not in the least "painful" - it is simply a return to what gave us the Greatest Nation on Earth for 40 years and discard that which made us a 3d world country with nukes.

 

The rich will not wither and die because they do what their grandparents did, nor will people stop working and become "dependant" on Government because they have a fair share of what they help produce.


If the plan is to take from one group and give to another, how can the second not be dependent on the continued support of the government?

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@n566192l wrote:

I don't not hear one answer. What I didn't hear was anything about the 800,000  Federal Employees. But, I did pick up on some back peddling, also, someone must have told Trump, the Shutdown is hurting the States he won in 2016.


What backpeddling did you pick up on?

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Actually it shows how blind neoRepublicans have become to the aftermath of their Reaganscam of cutting taxes for the Rich as the end-all, be-all of their legislative agenda. Here's a little blurb from Washinton Post from a reporter who actually found teachers who have to "sell their blood" to make ends meet.

Mar 25, 2014 - Should teachers make less than skycaps? ... narrated by Matt Damon that documents the lives of four teachers based on a book she ... with their children at food banks, and even selling their blood to make ends meet. ... No teacher should have a second job and teachers should struggle less financially so ...

 

But Donald Trump was not President in 2014. 

 

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We have marketplace solutions and that's not the job of a political ideology... not matter how you vote. We  still have a capitalistic system where opportunity exists and the individual invests as much in themselves, as they deem appropriate.

Conservatives are really good at removing government barriers... that I support.


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@Fishslayer777 wrote:

@Richva wrote:

@Fishslayer777 wrote:

Yep ... those 1%'ers who pay most of all taxes. Marie Antoinette is no longer alive.

https://taxfoundation.org/summary-latest-federal-income-tax-data-2016-update/


they do pay the most, about 53% but the top 10% owns about 80% of the nations wealth so they should be paying 80% of the taxes. 


That is bad math. Clearly tax accounting is something you know nothing about. Wealth isn't always taxed. If you have deferred investments like IRA's or 401K's ... that's wealth. You can't spin the numbers to suit your manufactured outrage. 

 

Where the "rich" can do better is...  invest where their wealth originated. If that's here in the good ole USA, then do it and let us see you do it. The rich aren't the problem... ignorance is.


After I posted that (it is correct), I realized I should have responded like AOC .

 

So, how are you conservatives going to solve the problem of full time employees needing to accept food stamps?  

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