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@Panjandrum wrote:

rk9152:   It appears that the solution to antifa attacking people and property, Waters sending her supporters out to harass pols, pussyhatters cheering the idea of blowing up the WH, Dem activists disrupting the Congress, and people attacked for wearing Trump t-shirts is to get rid of the Constitution.

 

 

Conservatives love being victims, it's in their DNA.

 

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A solid indication of the inability to respond to the facts I offered. And, sadly, a solid indication of pettiness.

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@Olderscout66 wrote:

Here's how Republicans behave in an UNcivil manner:

 

Rig the taxcode so bosses can keep all the profits for themselves, then keep all the profits for themselves.

 

Change the usury laws to permit predatory lending which destroys the lives of the bottom 20% constantly and the World Economy periodically.

 

Claim it is "moral peril" to adjust a mortgage downward so the family can keep its home but then turn around and sell that mortgage to some rich puke for 10 cents on the dollar so s/he can evict the family and turn the home into a rental.

 

Force women to bear the child of their rapist.

 

Deny a person their civil rights because of who they love.

 

Lie constantly about things that must be fixed so nobody fixes them.

 

Place sexual predators in the highest offices in the land.

 

Then whine and complain piteously about having their dinner hour interrupted because the people they harm object.

 

The GOPerLords know that all "revolutions" begin with the Middle Class, so they have set out to destroy the Middle Class to protect themselves as they destroy Democracy. Their wussy-whine is designed to take away one more form of protest, just as the Gerrymander and voter suppression remove the ability to protest with your vote.

 

Anyone who actually believes that 90% of ALL increases in income and wealth just naturally flowed into the pockets of the 1% watches way too much Fox.

 

Folks, you are NOT "losing ground" compared to what your parents were able to accomplish because minorities are "cutting in line" ahead of you. You are losing ground because Republicans have cut the ground out from beneath your feet. They told you it was minorities so you'd not look for the real reason- the GOP.

 

Truth spoken here.  Despite all of the boo whoos from GOPers, this is how it is seen from the eyes of those who "care" about the lives of "all" Americans and not just those that "fit" into the Trumplican mold of those he calls "his people." 


 

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@Panjandrum wrote:

rk9152:   It appears that the solution to antifa attacking people and property, Waters sending her supporters out to harass pols, pussyhatters cheering the idea of blowing up the WH, Dem activists disrupting the Congress, and people attacked for wearing Trump t-shirts is to get rid of the Constitution.

 

 

Conservatives love being victims, it's in their DNA.

 

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When it comes to conservatives, I think they have all of the boxes checked.  That way they cover all the bases and have more than enough blame to go around.

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rk9152:   It appears that the solution to antifa attacking people and property, Waters sending her supporters out to harass pols, pussyhatters cheering the idea of blowing up the WH, Dem activists disrupting the Congress, and people attacked for wearing Trump t-shirts is to get rid of the Constitution.

 

 

Conservatives love being victims, it's in their DNA.

 

DdDQvjkV0AAeBVt.jpg

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@gruffstuff wrote:

Sounds like a plan - a neoMarxist plan.

 

Then the founding father must have been neoMarxist, because speech, the right to assemble, the right to address the government with grievances, the right to protest, the free press, and the right to freedom of association, are all protected by the Constitution.

 

Those protections are there for a reason, they are tools given to the people by our fathers, to confront the political leaders, the Kings or Presidents, the men of quality, the Aristocrats, the 1% or known by any other name, our fathers warned us of and prepared for.


Here is your "free speech" (Dems version) in action:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxkdoYBZHus

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7VG919ttTA

 

Milder - but blocking the Senate hallway? Policy is debated in campaigns and resolved in the voting booth:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBBb997LlDU

 

 

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Here's how Republicans behave in an UNcivil manner:

 

Rig the taxcode so bosses can keep all the profits for themselves, then keep all the profits for themselves.

 

Change the usury laws to permit predatory lending which destroys the lives of the bottom 20% constantly and the World Economy periodically.

 

Claim it is "moral peril" to adjust a mortgage downward so the family can keep its home but then turn around and sell that mortgage to some rich puke for 10 cents on the dollar so s/he can evict the family and turn the home into a rental.

 

Force women to bear the child of their rapist.

 

Deny a person their civil rights because of who they love.

 

Lie constantly about things that must be fixed so nobody fixes them.

 

Place sexual predators in the highest offices in the land.

 

Then whine and complain piteously about having their dinner hour interrupted because the people they harm object.

 

The GOPerLords know that all "revolutions" begin with the Middle Class, so they have set out to destroy the Middle Class to protect themselves as they destroy Democracy. Their wussy-whine is designed to take away one more form of protest, just as the Gerrymander and voter suppression remove the ability to protest with your vote.

 

Anyone who actually believes that 90% of ALL increases in income and wealth just naturally flowed into the pockets of the 1% watches way too much Fox.

 

Folks, you are NOT "losing ground" compared to what your parents were able to accomplish because minorities are "cutting in line" ahead of you. You are losing ground because Republicans have cut the ground out from beneath your feet. They told you it was minorities so you'd not look for the real reason- the GOP.

 

 

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Sounds like a plan - a neoMarxist plan.

 

Then the founding father must have been neoMarxist, because speech, the right to assemble, the right to address the government with grievances, the right to protest, the free press, and the right to freedom of association, are all protected by the Constitution.

 

Those protections are there for a reason, they are tools given to the people by our fathers, to confront the political leaders, the Kings or Presidents, the men of quality, the Aristocrats, the 1% or known by any other name, our fathers warned us of and prepared for.

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It appears that the solution to antifa attacking people and property, Waters sending her supporters out to harass pols, pussyhatters cheering the idea of blowing up the WH, Dem activists disrupting the Congress, and people attacked for wearing Trump t-shirts is to get rid of the Constitution.

 

Sounds like a plan - a neoMarxist plan.

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@gruffstuff

Great series of articles. Seems to have covered the big five of how our political system is running our country into the ground. And I feel that the repubs have taken more advantage of these topics than the Dems have. 

But, in order to fix a problem, you have to determine what the problem is...we have plenty of things to fix. 

Civility, what’s that!?

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What has happened in America should not be seen as a victory for hatefulness over decency. It is more accurately understood as a repudiation of the American power structure.


At the core of that structure are the political leaders of both parties, their political operatives, and fundraisers, the country’s biggest corporations, and their Washington lobbyists, the biggest Wall Street banks, their top officers, traders, hedge-fund and private-equity managers, and their lackeys in Washington and the wealthy individuals who invest directly in politics.


At the start of the 2016 election cycle, this power structure proclaimed Hillary Clinton and Jeb Bush shoo-ins for the nominations of the Democratic and Republican parties. After all, both of these individuals had deep bases of funders, well-established networks of political insiders, experienced political advisers and all the political name recognition any candidate could possibly want.


But a funny thing happened on the way to the White House. The presidency was won by Donald Trump, who has never held elective office or had anything to do with the Republican party.


Hillary Clinton’s defeat is all the more remarkable in that her campaign vastly outspent the Trump campaign on television and radio advertisements, and get-out-the-vote efforts. Moreover, her campaign had the support in the general election not of only the kingpins of the Democratic party but also many leading Republicans, including most of the politically active denizens of Wall Street and the top executives of America’s largest corporations, and even former Republican president George HW Bush.

Her campaign team was run by seasoned professionals who knew the ropes. She had the visible and forceful backing of Barack Obama, whose popularity has soared in recent months, and his popular wife. And, of course, she had her husband.


Trump, by contrast, was shunned by the power structure. Mitt Romney, the Republican presidential candidate in 2012, actively worked against Trump’s nomination. Many senior Republicans refused to endorse him, or even give him their support. The Republican National Committee did not raise money for Trump to the extent it had for other Republican candidates for president.


What happened?


There had been hints of the political earthquake to come...


https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/nov/10/democrats-working-class-americans-us-election


Ralph Nader's new book with pretty much the same message.

 

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