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@gruffstuff wrote:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2018/01/18/the-russia-scandal-just-got-bigger-and-...

 

The Russia scandal just got bigger. And Republicans are trying to prevent an accounting.

 

Aside from the president of the United States, almost no one denies that Russia mounted a serious and concerted effort to manipulate the 2016 presidential campaign.

 

The Russians hacked into Democratic Party emails and gave what they obtained to WikiLeaks so that it could be released publicly to maximize the political damage to Hillary Clinton. They used social media to spread fictional stories meant to do the same. They made repeated attempts to engage the Trump campaign in a cooperative effort to undermine Clinton and help then-candidate Donald Trump. They attempted to hack into state voting systems.

 

And today we learn, in this report from Peter Stone and Greg Gordon of McClatchy, that they may have funneled money through the NRA to aid the Trump campaign.

 

 

Another case of dark money from Russia and Republicans, this time funneled through the NRA.

 

This is really just the tip of the iceberg,  to be honest we will probably never know how deep this goes in the US government and the Republican Party.

 

Remember when the NRA used to be about gun safety, hunting, target shooting, and good sportsmanship?

 

I do.

 

 


The Russians and others have been hacking into American systems for many years, this is just their latest. 

 

Rather than making it just one more partisan club to swing, our pols should be directing the techies to work on a fix non-stop. 

 

All rk all the time. All security organizations are working on the hacking situation. In Trumps zeal to have a purge, hundreds of cybersecurity experts are leaving the FBI, CIA, and NSA. Trump is working to fill these positions with party members and family members of donors, just like his judge appointment that couldnt answer legal questions. These positios arent reviewed by congress, but internally, of organizations that as of Trump, require political fealty. How many of these people have been put in place to appease Putin? Thats why you dont hear how great things are going..Executive interference.



Any specifics as to that "purge" or is that just one more of "those" facts??

 

And as to Putin-pleasing in the "purge" - is that another one?

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Message 22 of 35
rk you should read the thread containing the second release of FUSIONS testimony.
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What terrifies Der Trumper is the extent to which jrtRump and Jarad's business dealings are tied up in money laundering schemes involving Russian Mob, Oligarchs and Government (those often being the same person).

 

Also terrifies the GOPerLords who want their stooge to stay around long enough to gut all the regulatory agencies AND the IRS so the American Oligarchs will no longer be bothered with troublesome things like laws, regulations, audits and inspections that might keep them from preying on the 99% to obtain the greatest profits.


I haven't heard of any terrified GOPerLords - who are they?

 

I have also not heard of anyone getting rid of laws (all laws are adjusted on a regular basis), regulations (all regulations are adjusted on a regular basis), audits and inspections - same thing. So, I guess you are wrong about that "terror" jazz.

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pushed the wrong button - again.

 


 

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@ChasKy53 wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

@Roxanna35 wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

 

 


The Russians and others have been hacking into American systems for many years, this is just their latest. 

 

Rather than making it just one more partisan club to swing, our pols should be directing the techies to work on a fix non-stop. 


But is the President that doesn't want to touch the Russian deal because of fear of what it may disclose.  


What "Russian deal" are you talking about? Certainly he must exercise caution due to the Mueller fishing expedition, but other than that, I see no reason why the techies cannot be working hard to deal with cyber security.


Saying that all we need to do is have some "techies" work on "cyber security" is the same as saying that you don't care about possible government official corruption involving money laundering, especially if it were found to be Republicans related to the trump presidency. So many on the far right put trump's presidency above the welfare of America.


Two separate issues. One is the need for the techies to be hard at work developing cyber security for our nation. The other is government corruption such as the Mueller team wandering around looking for a place to hang their "Russian collusion" hats and the corruption of the DoJ spying on American citizens for partisan purposes.

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@rk9152 wrote:

@gruffstuff wrote:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2018/01/18/the-russia-scandal-just-got-bigger-and-...

 

The Russia scandal just got bigger. And Republicans are trying to prevent an accounting.

 

Aside from the president of the United States, almost no one denies that Russia mounted a serious and concerted effort to manipulate the 2016 presidential campaign.

 

The Russians hacked into Democratic Party emails and gave what they obtained to WikiLeaks so that it could be released publicly to maximize the political damage to Hillary Clinton. They used social media to spread fictional stories meant to do the same. They made repeated attempts to engage the Trump campaign in a cooperative effort to undermine Clinton and help then-candidate Donald Trump. They attempted to hack into state voting systems.

 

And today we learn, in this report from Peter Stone and Greg Gordon of McClatchy, that they may have funneled money through the NRA to aid the Trump campaign.

 

 

Another case of dark money from Russia and Republicans, this time funneled through the NRA.

 

This is really just the tip of the iceberg,  to be honest we will probably never know how deep this goes in the US government and the Republican Party.

 

Remember when the NRA used to be about gun safety, hunting, target shooting, and good sportsmanship?

 

I do.

 

 


The Russians and others have been hacking into American systems for many years, this is just their latest. 

 

Rather than making it just one more partisan club to swing, our pols should be directing the techies to work on a fix non-stop. 

 

All rk all the time. All security organizations are working on the hacking situation. In Trumps zeal to have a purge, hundreds of cybersecurity experts are leaving the FBI, CIA, and NSA. Trump is working to fill these positions with party members and family members of donors, just like his judge appointment that couldnt answer legal questions. These positios arent reviewed by congress, but internally, of organizations that as of Trump, require political fealty. How many of these people have been put in place to appease Putin? Thats why you dont hear how great things are going..Executive interference.


So it begins.
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What terrifies Der Trumper is the extent to which jrtRump and Jarad's business dealings are tied up in money laundering schemes involving Russian Mob, Oligarchs and Government (those often being the same person).

 

Also terrifies the GOPerLords who want their stooge to stay around long enough to gut all the regulatory agencies AND the IRS so the American Oligarchs will no longer be bothered with troublesome things like laws, regulations, audits and inspections that might keep them from preying on the 99% to obtain the greatest profits.

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mlseker: I read this online yesterday, and no, we dont just  "let it go". This may implicate an international money laundering scheme involving Govt officials around te world. Corrupt govt officials are ok with you? bilking people illegally then conspiring with governments to hide it is ok with you?

 

 

It all depends. If it helped Democrats, it's the crime of the century, if it helps Republicans....yawn. 🙂

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rk9152: The Russians and others have been hacking into American systems for many years, this is just their latest. 

 

 

The FBI is already investigating Russian hacking,that's not the big deal here. This is a big deal if corroborated:

 

FBI investigating whether Russian money went to NRA to help Trump

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/national/article195231139.html

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@rk9152 wrote:

@Roxanna35 wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

 

 


The Russians and others have been hacking into American systems for many years, this is just their latest. 

 

Rather than making it just one more partisan club to swing, our pols should be directing the techies to work on a fix non-stop. 


But is the President that doesn't want to touch the Russian deal because of fear of what it may disclose.  


What "Russian deal" are you talking about? Certainly he must exercise caution due to the Mueller fishing expedition, but other than that, I see no reason why the techies cannot be working hard to deal with cyber security.


Saying that all we need to do is have some "techies" work on "cyber security" is the same as saying that you don't care about possible government official corruption involving money laundering, especially if it were found to be Republicans related to the trump presidency. So many on the far right put trump's presidency above the welfare of America.


Man learns from history that man learns nothing from history.
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