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Supposedly, the dirty dossier was NOT the only piece of evidence that convinced the judge to issue a FISA warrant, yet no one has been privy to any other evidence except the Steele Dossier that the Clinton Foundation funded. I wonder if the spying on Trump BEFORE election was done with ONLY the dossier and the "rest of the evidence" is NON EXISTANT!


If you were a member of the FBI, Justice Department or FISA judge involved in the case you would be privy to all the information. The warrant that was released provides information sufficient to determine that there was more information used to anyone who can read and understand the English language.


The warrant that was issued was based on the Clinton Foundation paid for dossier and that's it! For those that claim otherwise, put up or shut up! The FBI and DOJ was run by a bunch of Obama liberals who wouldn't know the truth if it hit them in the face.


Some people on here, when they are told that black is really white, believe it.  Here is a link to Politifact.  You will notice that it says the dossier was used to SOME (not all) extent.  You can apologize any time.

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2018/jul/23/donald-trump/donald-trump-falsely-sa...


From your left wing propaganda Politalie: ""The Papadopoulos information triggered the opening of an FBI counterintelligence investigation in late July 2016 by FBI agent Pete Strzok," the House Intelligence Committee’s GOP members wrote in a Feb. 2 memo." You can apologize any time!!

 

There is nothing there (Emporer's New Clothes) to justify the warrant except the "dossier".


The Papadopoulos investigation is NOT the same as the Carter Page FISA warrant.  You still have not addressed why you think "some" means the same as "all".  Like easyed and rk before you, you need to look up what is needed for a warrant, probable cause is not the same as beyond a reasonable doubt (not even close).

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Supposedly, the dirty dossier was NOT the only piece of evidence that convinced the judge to issue a FISA warrant, yet no one has been privy to any other evidence except the Steele Dossier that the Clinton Foundation funded. I wonder if the spying on Trump BEFORE election was done with ONLY the dossier and the "rest of the evidence" is NON EXISTANT!


If you were a member of the FBI, Justice Department or FISA judge involved in the case you would be privy to all the information. The warrant that was released provides information sufficient to determine that there was more information used to anyone who can read and understand the English language.


The warrant that was issued was based on the Clinton Foundation paid for dossier and that's it! For those that claim otherwise, put up or shut up! The FBI and DOJ was run by a bunch of Obama liberals who wouldn't know the truth if it hit them in the face.


Some people on here, when they are told that black is really white, believe it.  Here is a link to Politifact.  You will notice that it says the dossier was used to SOME (not all) extent.  You can apologize any time.

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2018/jul/23/donald-trump/donald-trump-falsely-sa...


From your left wing propaganda Politalie: ""The Papadopoulos information triggered the opening of an FBI counterintelligence investigation in late July 2016 by FBI agent Pete Strzok," the House Intelligence Committee’s GOP members wrote in a Feb. 2 memo." You can apologize any time!!

 

There is nothing there (Emporer's New Clothes) to justify the warrant except the "dossier".

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@easyed598 wrote:


                                                   Why is the Mueller investigation still going on?   Several other examples but hopefully you get the point.

 


Why is the Mueller investigation still going on? BECAUSE HE'S STILL CATCHING CRIMINALS AND TRAITORS!

I know GOPerbase must be getting nervous as more and more of Der Trumper's closest associates are pleading guilty in exchange for full cooperation with Mueller, and the evidence of Donny's conspiring with Russians in so many ways is piling up like a Minnesota blizzard, but fear not - the Nation survived Nixon, we'll get over a PupPetPOTUS serving hard time for treason, even if the Republican Party won't, nor should it.

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Summary

-Russian regime has been cultivating, supporting and assisting TRUMP for at least 5 years. Aim, endorsed by PUTIN, has been to encourage splits and divisions in western alliance

They had known for five years that he was going to be Prez - pretty smart people

-So far TRUMP has declined various sweetener real estate business deals offered him in Russia in order to further the Kremlin’s cultivation of him. However he and his inner circle have accepted a regular flow of intelligence from the Kremlin, including on his Democratic and other political rivals

He had political rivals back that far?

-Former top Russian intelligence officer claims FSB has compromised TRUMP through his activities in Moscow sufficiently to be able to blackmail him. According to several knowledgeable sources, his conduct in Moscow has included [REDACTED BY THE MOSCOW PROJECT] arranged/ monitored by the FSB

Unknown source, unknown action and "REDACTED" - yep, that is damning.

-A dossier of compromising material on Hillary CLINTON has been collated by the Russian Intelligence Services over many years and mainly comprises bugged conversations she had on various visits to Russia and intercepted phone calls rather than any embarrassing conduct.

And yet only emails were released - strange.

The dossier is controlled by Kremlin spokesman, PESKOV, directly on PUTIN’s orders. However it has not as yet been distributed abroad, including to TRUMP. Russian intentions for its deployment still unclear

Detail

  1. Speaking to a trusted compatriot in June 2016 sources A and B, a senior Russian Foreign Ministry figure and a former top level Russian intelligence officer still active inside the Kremlin respectively, the Russian authorities had been cultivating and supporting US Republican presidential candidate, Donald TRUMP for at least 5 years. Source B asserted that the TRUMP operation was both supported and directed by Russian President Vladimir PUTIN. Its aim was to sow discord and disunity both within the US itself, but more especially within the Transatlantic alliance which was viewed as inimical to Russia’s interests. Source C, a senior Russian financial official said the Trump operation should be seen in terms of PUTIN’s desire to return to Nineteenth Century ‘Great Power’ politics anchored upon countries’ interests rather than the ideals-based international order established after World War Two. S/he had overheard PUTIN talking in this way to close associates on several occasions
  2. In terms of specifics, Source A confided that the Kremlin had been feeding TRUMP and his team valuable intelligence on his opponents, including Democratic presidential candidate Hillary CLINTON, for several years????? (see more below). This was confirmed by Source D, a close associate of TRUMP who had organized and managed his recent trips to Moscow, and who reported, also in June 2016, that this Russian intelligence had been “very helpful”. The Kremlin’s cultivation operation on TRUMP also had comprised offering him various lucrative real estate development business deals in Russia, especially in relation to the ongoing 2018 World Cup soccer tournament, However, so far, for reasons unknown, TRUMP had not taken up any of these.

THE STEELE DOSSIER

 


Yes, that is the Steele report , the result of money paid by the DNC and the Clinton campaign .....and as always, you forget the GOP/Marco Rubio......just more mistruths......to develop dirt on Trump. Well thanks  to Marco, it was well on it's way.....It's veracity must be questioned. No, it doesn't. Problem for Repubs is that they can't disprove any of it.  And using it for a FISA warrant is highly questionable  Only to Cult Members as they think it was the only items submitted in the warrant.  It's quite like them to pick and choose which facts to cite.


 


"FAKE 45 #illegitimate" read a sign at the Woman's March in Washington DC, January 21, 2017.
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Seems the GOPerLords put out the line that somehow the Mueller Investigation must be stopped because the Steele Dossier is proving to be totally TRUE, and their dupes are falling right in line, like always.

 

The question Republicans need to ask themselves is this: If the Steele Dossier has in fact led to the Mueller Investigation, and that investigation has produced 31 Felony criminal indictments with FIVE guilty pleas to felony crimes, including Conspiracy against the United States, WHY SHOULD IT STOP?

 

There is no "fruit from a poison tree" BS - the charges in the Steele Dossier have all been proven, the final proof being Donny telling the World he finds Putin's strong and powerful denials more persuasive than the reports from ALL our Intelligence Services. If he's not a Russian mole, WHAT WOULD CAUSE HIM TO MAKE SUCH A STATEMENT? That Golden Shower video looks like a slam dunk.

 

What else will Donny sell out to keep his PupPet Master happy? NATO? - already done that. the GOP? - already done that. The Presidency? - already done that.

Looks like all Der Trumper has to offer is to destroy America's economy so we won't be able to interfer with Vlads plans for conquest - probably get us into a war with Iran just to make sure we have no "assets" remaining to defend Europe from Russia and our Pacific allies from China.

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Supposedly, the dirty dossier was NOT the only piece of evidence that convinced the judge to issue a FISA warrant, yet no one has been privy to any other evidence except the Steele Dossier that the Clinton Foundation funded. I wonder if the spying on Trump BEFORE election was done with ONLY the dossier and the "rest of the evidence" is NON EXISTANT!


If you were a member of the FBI, Justice Department or FISA judge involved in the case you would be privy to all the information. The warrant that was released provides information sufficient to determine that there was more information used to anyone who can read and understand the English language.


The warrant that was issued was based on the Clinton Foundation paid for dossier and that's it! For those that claim otherwise, put up or shut up! The FBI and DOJ was run by a bunch of Obama liberals who wouldn't know the truth if it hit them in the face.


Some people on here, when they are told that black is really white, believe it.  Here is a link to Politifact.  You will notice that it says the dossier was used to SOME (not all) extent.  You can apologize any time.

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2018/jul/23/donald-trump/donald-trump-falsely-sa...

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The warrant that was issued was based on the Clinton Foundation paid for dossier and that's it! For those that claim otherwise, put up or shut up! The FBI and DOJ was run by a bunch of Obama liberals who wouldn't know the truth if it hit them in the face.


I still don't understand the problem. Getting the warrant only gives the FBI two weeks to produce evidence for the second hearing. This warrant was in place for months which means they were getting enough evidence to keep renewing it.  

 

Christopher Steele provided enough documentation in the dossier to show real concerns with Trump regardless of who paid for it. He also operated independently of any oversight from the original right leaning website or the Democrats later. He was concerned enough to take what he discovered to the FBI on his own.

 

The right's only defense is that it was funded by the Democrats.  The investigation was not MANAGED by the Democrats.  Fake news folks. 

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The thing that is scaring the Republicans is the sure knowledge that Democrats are already paying for other investigations confirming the allegations in the Steele dossier.  Christopher Steele gave them the information, they only need verify and then start the drip, drip, drip of verified reports on Trump. 


Supposedly, the dirty dossier was NOT the only piece of evidence that convinced the judge to issue a FISA warrant, yet no one has been privy to any other evidence except the Steele Dossier that the Clinton Foundation funded. I wonder if the spying on Trump BEFORE election was done with ONLY the dossier and the "rest of the evidence" is NON EXISTANT!


If you were a member of the FBI, Justice Department or FISA judge involved in the case you would be privy to all the information. The warrant that was released provides information sufficient to determine that there was more information used to anyone who can read and understand the English language.


The warrant that was issued was based on the Clinton Foundation paid for dossier and that's it! For those that claim otherwise, put up or shut up! The FBI and DOJ was run by a bunch of Obama liberals who wouldn't know the truth if it hit them in the face.


A simple reading of the FISA warrant that was released proves your contention is false. 

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The thing that is scaring the Republicans is the sure knowledge that Democrats are already paying for other investigations confirming the allegations in the Steele dossier.  Christopher Steele gave them the information, they only need verify and then start the drip, drip, drip of verified reports on Trump. 


Supposedly, the dirty dossier was NOT the only piece of evidence that convinced the judge to issue a FISA warrant, yet no one has been privy to any other evidence except the Steele Dossier that the Clinton Foundation funded. I wonder if the spying on Trump BEFORE election was done with ONLY the dossier and the "rest of the evidence" is NON EXISTANT!


If you were a member of the FBI, Justice Department or FISA judge involved in the case you would be privy to all the information. The warrant that was released provides information sufficient to determine that there was more information used to anyone who can read and understand the English language.


The warrant that was issued was based on the Clinton Foundation paid for dossier and that's it! For those that claim otherwise, put up or shut up! The FBI and DOJ was run by a bunch of Obama liberals who wouldn't know the truth if it hit them in the face.

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Snoopy wrote-If Trump would have stayed in the White House and silent he would have did more to achieve world peace than he accomplished with his meetings with Kim and Putin. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Oh sure-and how did that work for Obama? Russia -we got Crimea and Ukraine=North Korea- we got rockets that could reach the USA. 

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