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Go to your local courtroom sometime. When you hear a verdict of "not guilty", that does not mean he is exonerated or even that he is not guilty. It just means within the scope of the trial (in this case the investigation), the jurors did not find enough evidence to find him guilty. The person on trial (or Trump in this case) is "assumed innocent" since they couldn't find proof of guilt.

 

It's a truly binary thing. After 2+ years of investigating, Mueller found nothing that he could say Trump did wrong with respect to colluding with the Russians or fixing the election.

 

Is there a problem with the left's understanding of this simple concept?


There was no trial. But there was an investigation that provided plenty of evidence for Congress to consider and act upon as they see fit. Barr is acting on behalf of the president to stand in the way, i.e. obstruct, the ability of Congress to do its Constitutional duty.

 

Then he totally lied when he said that he didn't know what Mueller thought about his "summary." He knew exactly what Mueller thought, and had no intention of letting that cat out of the bag. However, the truth always manages to find its way into the light of day.

 

Is there a problem with the right's understanding of this simple concept?


There was no mention of "guilt" in the 400 page report or Barr's 4 page summary. No mention of guilt means to even the most simplistic mind NOT GUILTY!


What part of "does not exonerate" does the right not understand?

 


The part where the left correlates "does not exonerate" to guilty as charged!


The part where "does not exonerate" means a determination has not been made and warrants further investigation. That's where Congress comes in. 


Call Jerry "the whale" Nadler to tell him your concerns. I trust that the Mueller report and the Barr summary told us enough already but the left knows better!

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"Does not exonerate".   Really, do trump supporters honestly not know what that means?  Sure seems so. Investigations rightly continue. The FBI investigated Hillary and they should thoroughly investigate trump.

 

Lock him up !!!!!


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@NOTHAPPENING wrote:

@MaVolta wrote:

@NOTHAPPENING wrote:

@MaVolta wrote:

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Go to your local courtroom sometime. When you hear a verdict of "not guilty", that does not mean he is exonerated or even that he is not guilty. It just means within the scope of the trial (in this case the investigation), the jurors did not find enough evidence to find him guilty. The person on trial (or Trump in this case) is "assumed innocent" since they couldn't find proof of guilt.

 

It's a truly binary thing. After 2+ years of investigating, Mueller found nothing that he could say Trump did wrong with respect to colluding with the Russians or fixing the election.

 

Is there a problem with the left's understanding of this simple concept?


There was no trial. But there was an investigation that provided plenty of evidence for Congress to consider and act upon as they see fit. Barr is acting on behalf of the president to stand in the way, i.e. obstruct, the ability of Congress to do its Constitutional duty.

 

Then he totally lied when he said that he didn't know what Mueller thought about his "summary." He knew exactly what Mueller thought, and had no intention of letting that cat out of the bag. However, the truth always manages to find its way into the light of day.

 

Is there a problem with the right's understanding of this simple concept?


There was no mention of "guilt" in the 400 page report or Barr's 4 page summary. No mention of guilt means to even the most simplistic mind NOT GUILTY!


What part of "does not exonerate" does the right not understand?

 


The part where the left correlates "does not exonerate" to guilty as charged!


The part where "does not exonerate" means a determination has not been made and warrants further investigation. That's where Congress comes in. 

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NOTHAPPENING:  Wishfull thinking on the left's part! Read your post again.  Can you see why your party is called: the Party of Hate?

 

It's the party of reality, not wishful thinking. If the report contains nothing damaging to Trump, then Barr should be happy to release it. That's just common sense.

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The more simple explanation is that Barr's interpretation, and his unwillingness to be questioned about his interpretation, shows that it is an attempt at cover up. 


And the only way to avoid perjury is to avoid answering the questions. Obviously, telling the truth would be a problem for the president.

 

It begs the question: If no crimes were committed, why all the lies and cover up?

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 NOTHAPPENING:     Democrats won't get the fully unredacted version since it is illegal to reveal contents of Grand Juries/names.

 

 

Barr could get a judge's approval to release Grand Jury material, but of course he's refusing to do that since it probably contains things that would make his master go ballistic. But removing the other redactions would be better than the sanitized report they have now.


Wishfull thinking on the left's part! Read your post again.  Can you see why your party is called: the Party of Hate?

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 NOTHAPPENING:     Democrats won't get the fully unredacted version since it is illegal to reveal contents of Grand Juries/names.

 

 

Barr could get a judge's approval to release Grand Jury material, but of course he's refusing to do that since it probably contains things that would make his master go ballistic. But removing the other redactions would be better than the sanitized report they have now.

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@Panjandrum wrote:

jimc91:  At this point it's irrelevant because the full Mueller Report is available to them and the public.

 

 

 

Have you stopped reading The Daily Caller? The Democrats need the FULL, UNREDACTED REPORT with all supporting documents, not Barr's scrubbed version.

 

 

Nadler Threatens AG Barr With Contempt If DOJ Refuses To Release Unredacted Mueller Report

 

https://dailycaller.com/2019/05/03/nadler-doj-barr-letter-mueller/


Democrats won't get the fully unredacted version since it is illegal to reveal contents of Grand Juries/names. Jerry "the whale" Nadler can threaten all he wants.

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jimc91:  At this point it's irrelevant because the full Mueller Report is available to them and the public.

 

 

 

Have you stopped reading The Daily Caller? The Democrats need the FULL, UNREDACTED REPORT with all supporting documents, not Barr's scrubbed version.

 

 

Nadler Threatens AG Barr With Contempt If DOJ Refuses To Release Unredacted Mueller Report

 

https://dailycaller.com/2019/05/03/nadler-doj-barr-letter-mueller/

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@Richva wrote:

Odd that when the Democrats challenge Barr's interpretation of Mueller's report it is because they HATE something or someone.

 

The more simple explanation is that Barr's interpretation, and his unwillingness to be questioned about his interpretation, shows that it is an attempt at cover up. 


At this point it's irrelevant because the full Mueller Report is available to them and the public.  Mueller's job has come to an end.  He gave the report to his boss and the AG has put the matter to bed.  

 

It is now the time to take a good look at how this started by investigating the investigators and find out what predicated this investigation of the Trump Campaign.  What is the Evidence that was presented to the FISA court that provided the probable cause?  Mueller did not find any evidence of collusion with the Russians.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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