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@MIseker wrote:

https://www.splcenter.org/20180205/alt-right-killing-people

 

Very lenghty article. It contain no news to me however. all of it has been publicized incidents, the right just refuses to put them into its proper pattern and fluffs it off. 100 casualties  so far. the terror within comes from the right, not the * antifa thugs*, Islamic extremists, or anyone else. Its the US enemy that has always existed, and the govt has always ignored it and gone after its opponents. 

 

The intro...

 

The Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) counted over 100 people killed or injured by alleged perpetrators influenced by the so-called "alt-right" — a movement that continues to access the mainstream and reach young recruits.

On December 7, 2017, a 21-year-old white male posing as a student entered Aztec High School in rural New Mexico and began firing a handgun, killing two students before taking his own life.

At the time, the news of the shooting went largely ignored, but the online activity of the alleged killer, William Edward Atchison, bore all the hallmarks of the “alt-right”—the now infamous subculture and political movement consisting of vicious trolls, racist activists, and bitter misogynists.

But Atchison wasn’t the first to fit the profile of alt-right killer—that morbid milestone belongs to Elliot Rodger, the 22-year-old who in 2014 killed six in Isla Vista, California, after uploading a sprawling manifesto filled with hatred of young women and interracial couples (Atchison went by “Elliot Rodger” in one of his many online persQuoteonas and lauded the “supreme gentleman,” a title Rodger gave himself and has since become a meme on the alt-right).

Including Rodger’s murderous rampage there have been at least 13 alt-right related fatal episodes, leaving 43 dead. And more than 60 injured in these incidents (see list). Nine of the 12 incidents counted here occurred in 2017 alone, making last year the most violent year for the movement.

 

of course there are many people that excuse  this behavior, and apologists up the ying yang. In the not too distant past it included the OKC bombing.


   On cue,one of donalds ignoble supporters jumps in and attempts a distraction.    According to that nonsense, the only people who should be able to discuss the killings by alt-right groups is the alt-right.    NOT!

 

    The generic Republicans in DC may soon be joining that gang of murders as they contemplate place a financial cap on Medicaid....that is the most overt act of Genocide they are discussing and attempting to try and hide.     From WV protests at the Greenbrier that RW never heard about:    Here is who you will be killing:    

      A man, 67 yo,  who twelve years ago, became disabled with bone degeneration. His 27-year-old son is a paranoid schizophrenic who has been in and out of the hospital his entire life, but is now getting along with a meticulous combination of medication and intervention programs while living in housing from federal programs. If the programs didn’t exist, or if Republicans act on proposed cuts to the social safety net, Blair said, his son would become homeless and then dead.   (Intercept). 

 

     That is GOP Genocide - they are attempting to kill right under the nation's nose.   


Is the SPLC now a supporter of 27 year old paranoid schizophrenics? Or is this just another collection of "Bad Trump supporters, bad Trump supporters" snippets?


Try reading it to see what it says, and does not, say. that woud be the intelligent thing to do.

 


i did, the 27 year old schizophrenic was the invention of the "ignoble" poster - my response was to the "ignoble" poster

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@rk9152 wrote:

@afisher wrote:

@MIseker wrote:

https://www.splcenter.org/20180205/alt-right-killing-people

 

Very lenghty article. It contain no news to me however. all of it has been publicized incidents, the right just refuses to put them into its proper pattern and fluffs it off. 100 casualties  so far. the terror within comes from the right, not the * antifa thugs*, Islamic extremists, or anyone else. Its the US enemy that has always existed, and the govt has always ignored it and gone after its opponents. 

 

The intro...

 

The Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) counted over 100 people killed or injured by alleged perpetrators influenced by the so-called "alt-right" — a movement that continues to access the mainstream and reach young recruits.

On December 7, 2017, a 21-year-old white male posing as a student entered Aztec High School in rural New Mexico and began firing a handgun, killing two students before taking his own life.

At the time, the news of the shooting went largely ignored, but the online activity of the alleged killer, William Edward Atchison, bore all the hallmarks of the “alt-right”—the now infamous subculture and political movement consisting of vicious trolls, racist activists, and bitter misogynists.

But Atchison wasn’t the first to fit the profile of alt-right killer—that morbid milestone belongs to Elliot Rodger, the 22-year-old who in 2014 killed six in Isla Vista, California, after uploading a sprawling manifesto filled with hatred of young women and interracial couples (Atchison went by “Elliot Rodger” in one of his many online persQuoteonas and lauded the “supreme gentleman,” a title Rodger gave himself and has since become a meme on the alt-right).

Including Rodger’s murderous rampage there have been at least 13 alt-right related fatal episodes, leaving 43 dead. And more than 60 injured in these incidents (see list). Nine of the 12 incidents counted here occurred in 2017 alone, making last year the most violent year for the movement.

 

of course there are many people that excuse  this behavior, and apologists up the ying yang. In the not too distant past it included the OKC bombing.


   On cue,one of donalds ignoble supporters jumps in and attempts a distraction.    According to that nonsense, the only people who should be able to discuss the killings by alt-right groups is the alt-right.    NOT!

 

    The generic Republicans in DC may soon be joining that gang of murders as they contemplate place a financial cap on Medicaid....that is the most overt act of Genocide they are discussing and attempting to try and hide.     From WV protests at the Greenbrier that RW never heard about:    Here is who you will be killing:    

      A man, 67 yo,  who twelve years ago, became disabled with bone degeneration. His 27-year-old son is a paranoid schizophrenic who has been in and out of the hospital his entire life, but is now getting along with a meticulous combination of medication and intervention programs while living in housing from federal programs. If the programs didn’t exist, or if Republicans act on proposed cuts to the social safety net, Blair said, his son would become homeless and then dead.   (Intercept). 

 

     That is GOP Genocide - they are attempting to kill right under the nation's nose.   


Is the SPLC now a supporter of 27 year old paranoid schizophrenics? Or is this just another collection of "Bad Trump supporters, bad Trump supporters" snippets?


Try reading it to see what it says, and does not, say. that woud be the intelligent thing to do.

 

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@MIseker wrote:

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The killings in Chicago are all courtesy the NRAGOP. Without those folks insuring a steady supply of guns into Chicago, there would not be the level of gun violence. If those guns did not include any semi automatic models, the death toll would be drastically reduced, but thanks the the NRAGOP that won't happen any time soon.


I'd like to see your stats (maybe from the SPLC) as to how many of the guns used in Chicago were legally obtained by the killers.

 

However, the bottom line is when the nut job in Charlottesville ran into the mob, you didn't blame the car - yet now you want to blame the guns.


most of them were legally obtained just outside chicago and Indiana. straw, like your posts.

 


"straw" - did I bring up the NRA? do you have stats to prove that the guns used in the CHI murders were legally owned by the killers?

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@MIseker wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

I believe that Richard Spencer would be a better source for finding an accurate alt-right definition than the SPLC.

 

The article went back to the Oklahoma City bombing and specified over 100 killed or injured by people influenced by Spencer's alt-right.

 

Just a thought - there were 650 people killed last year alone in Chicago. Can't blame that on alt-right (like Oke City) so.......what........those lives do not matter.

 

You are concerned that someone is "fluffing off" 100 casualties in 22 years nationwide, yet feel free to "fluff off" 650 killings in one year in one city.

 

A truly strange way of looking at things.


off topic dead cat.


how so - did your source not mention alt-right? are only killings or injuries that the SPLC attributes to the "RIGHT" matter?

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@MIseker wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

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@ChasKy53 wrote:

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"Can't blame that on alt-right" -  You are too kind to liberals.  

 

I know, I know, just a failing of mine - I'm just a nice, tolerant guy. The other side of the argument prefers to call us over here on the correct side Nazis, ignoble and say that we "suck". I prefer to approach things rationally.


Your "approach" in this topic is to distract by comparing apples to oranges. Chicago and it's problems are no comparison to nationwide data showing that the Alt-Right is killing people on a national scale. You cannot discount the information about that so you bring up a non-related issue as a distraction. Call that "rational" if you choose.


"Apples and oranges"??? How about blaming the alt-right for Oke City???

 


Like my favorite terrorist Kazinsky, McVeigh was a local story too. Most, ( not all ) michigan militia members are now whats called alt right. i used to have a pretty wide circle of aquaintances... not all mentally stable either Smiley Happy I dont really care if you take my word or not while ya swim in that punchbowl.

 


What has your favorite killers to do with your claim that the RIGHT is "blatantly killing" people?


i dont really know, or care why you didnt keep up with current events for the majority of your life. McVeigh was a right winger too. But then, i doubt you know what the okc bombing was, or any fatalities.


I may have erred. I thought that the use of the term "RIGHT" in the title was referring to the Conservative side of the political spectrum. Are you saying that it refers only to extreme fringe, basically apolitical nut jobs like McVeigh?

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@rk9152 wrote:

@Olderscout66 wrote:

The killings in Chicago are all courtesy the NRAGOP. Without those folks insuring a steady supply of guns into Chicago, there would not be the level of gun violence. If those guns did not include any semi automatic models, the death toll would be drastically reduced, but thanks the the NRAGOP that won't happen any time soon.


I'd like to see your stats (maybe from the SPLC) as to how many of the guns used in Chicago were legally obtained by the killers.

 

However, the bottom line is when the nut job in Charlottesville ran into the mob, you didn't blame the car - yet now you want to blame the guns.


most of them were legally obtained just outside chicago and Indiana. straw, like your posts.

 

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@rk9152 wrote:

I believe that Richard Spencer would be a better source for finding an accurate alt-right definition than the SPLC.

 

The article went back to the Oklahoma City bombing and specified over 100 killed or injured by people influenced by Spencer's alt-right.

 

Just a thought - there were 650 people killed last year alone in Chicago. Can't blame that on alt-right (like Oke City) so.......what........those lives do not matter.

 

You are concerned that someone is "fluffing off" 100 casualties in 22 years nationwide, yet feel free to "fluff off" 650 killings in one year in one city.

 

A truly strange way of looking at things.


off topic dead cat.

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@rk9152 wrote:

@MIseker wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

@ChasKy53 wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

@aruzinsky wrote:

"Can't blame that on alt-right" -  You are too kind to liberals.  

 

I know, I know, just a failing of mine - I'm just a nice, tolerant guy. The other side of the argument prefers to call us over here on the correct side Nazis, ignoble and say that we "suck". I prefer to approach things rationally.


Your "approach" in this topic is to distract by comparing apples to oranges. Chicago and it's problems are no comparison to nationwide data showing that the Alt-Right is killing people on a national scale. You cannot discount the information about that so you bring up a non-related issue as a distraction. Call that "rational" if you choose.


"Apples and oranges"??? How about blaming the alt-right for Oke City???

 


Like my favorite terrorist Kazinsky, McVeigh was a local story too. Most, ( not all ) michigan militia members are now whats called alt right. i used to have a pretty wide circle of aquaintances... not all mentally stable either Smiley Happy I dont really care if you take my word or not while ya swim in that punchbowl.

 


What has your favorite killers to do with your claim that the RIGHT is "blatantly killing" people?


i dont really know, or care why you didnt keep up with current events for the majority of your life. McVeigh was a right winger too. But then, i doubt you know what the okc bombing was, or any fatalities.

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@MIseker wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

@ChasKy53 wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

@aruzinsky wrote:

"Can't blame that on alt-right" -  You are too kind to liberals.  

 

I know, I know, just a failing of mine - I'm just a nice, tolerant guy. The other side of the argument prefers to call us over here on the correct side Nazis, ignoble and say that we "suck". I prefer to approach things rationally.


Your "approach" in this topic is to distract by comparing apples to oranges. Chicago and it's problems are no comparison to nationwide data showing that the Alt-Right is killing people on a national scale. You cannot discount the information about that so you bring up a non-related issue as a distraction. Call that "rational" if you choose.


"Apples and oranges"??? How about blaming the alt-right for Oke City???

 


Like my favorite terrorist Kazinsky, McVeigh was a local story too. Most, ( not all ) michigan militia members are now whats called alt right. i used to have a pretty wide circle of aquaintances... not all mentally stable either Smiley Happy I dont really care if you take my word or not while ya swim in that punchbowl.

 


What has your favorite killers to do with your claim that the RIGHT is "blatantly killing" people?

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@rk9152 wrote:

@ChasKy53 wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

@aruzinsky wrote:

"Can't blame that on alt-right" -  You are too kind to liberals.  

 

I know, I know, just a failing of mine - I'm just a nice, tolerant guy. The other side of the argument prefers to call us over here on the correct side Nazis, ignoble and say that we "suck". I prefer to approach things rationally.


Your "approach" in this topic is to distract by comparing apples to oranges. Chicago and it's problems are no comparison to nationwide data showing that the Alt-Right is killing people on a national scale. You cannot discount the information about that so you bring up a non-related issue as a distraction. Call that "rational" if you choose.


"Apples and oranges"??? How about blaming the alt-right for Oke City???

 


Like my favorite terrorist Kazinsky, McVeigh was a local story too. Most, ( not all ) michigan militia members are now whats called alt right. i used to have a pretty wide circle of aquaintances... not all mentally stable either Smiley Happy I dont really care if you take my word or not while ya swim in that punchbowl.

 

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