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No, I simply tell the truth. That has a tendency to receive KUDOS, sorry that trump supporters don't realize that.


Again, what does this thread have to do with Trump or politics?  Perhaps you have something about anyone of any skin color attempting to improve themselves through reading books or knowledge?


"Perhaps"? Well, "perhaps" could be put before many sentences falsely accusing you of things too.  It's a shame you have to go there.


Of course you didn't answer the question, and are avoiding anything about the original post about reading enabled Carson to pull himself up from a life of poverty.  That wouldn't fit into the liberal philosophy of holding those in need hostage to a life of welfare.


I have said that learning to read early is a great thing, pay closer attention. No one here has said differently.

 

Once again you resort to an insulting and accusatory remark - - - " That wouldn't fit into the liberal philosophy of holding those in need hostage to a life of welfare". - - -  Again, it's a shame you always have to go there.

 

No one has criticized the post for the his mom teaching him to read books early. It was inserting the words "DON"T BLAME" and "DON"T MAKE EXCUSES". Keep ignoring that and making more insulting and accusatory statements, it speaks volumes.


"The only thing man learns from history is man learns nothing from history"
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I hope all realize who the person is that she posted about. It is Ben Carson who is now in the Trump Cabinet. He is Sec. of Housing. He was a good brain surgeon, but no so good in his present job. He spent a lot of money for dishes, and items for his Office. In a way you are all being used as the poster should have told all up front the full story on the person. Our far right at work.


It illustrated a way to break the cycle of poverty. It seems that is more important than dishes.

 

Being more concerned with dishes than a person climbing out of poverty (through his and his mother's efforts) is the left at work.

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The original poster reposted a meme showing how a single mother with a third grade education encouraged/required her son to read two books a week which encouraged him to succeed. 

 


Yes, that is what the meme(btw, not attributed to anyone thus could be a copyright issue) depicted.

 

But the addition of DON'T BLAME and DON'T MAKE EXCUSES posted in RED, was clearly directed toward those of color.

 

Those added phrases completely changed the intent of the original post.


Exactly. If the meme hadn’t contained that, I would have ignored it completely. 


Yep, you're correct. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know/understand the meaning of them being included. I would have been silent on this topic if they had not been added.


"Yeah, me too" - and properly rewarded.

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@ChasKy53 wrote:

@TxGrandpa2 wrote:

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Yes, that is what the meme(btw, not attributed to anyone thus could be a copyright issue) depicted.

 

But the addition of DON'T BLAME and DON'T MAKE EXCUSES posted in RED, was clearly directed toward those of color.

 

Those added phrases completely changed the intent of the original post.


To the contrary the intent was changed when it was turned into comments about racism instead of being about the power of books and knowledge in advancing a person's lot in life. 


Boloney!  The phrases "DON'T BLAME" and "DON'T MAKE EXCUSES" were directed at blacks and was racist in nature.  It's really that simple. Of course trump supporters will go to great lengths trying to conceal or deny racist behavior by any of their peers.


If parents do not take the necessary steps to help their children succeed "don't blame" and "don't make excuses" is totally valid - regardless of race.

 

Only someone seeing the world through their filter of race would think that is not true for ALL people.

 

“Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.” 
― Martin Luther King Jr.

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Evading questions again. Ben Carson's mother must have had Ben read a lot of fantasy books for him to have formed the ridiculous points that were listed. Do you believe the points that Ben made? If you do I can understand you not wanting to admit it.


The point is that Dr. Carson's success can be attributed to his early reading. As such, early reading is recommended to other parents. All the rest is about some posters need to interject racism and for their agent to look for a fight.

 

Let it go - we agree, early reading is a good start to a successful life - for anyone.


But do you believe the list of ridiculous points that Ben Carson made?


I believe that learning to read at a young age helped Dr. Carson to break out of the cycle of poverty - that is the issue. Do you agree?

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@ChasKy53 wrote:


The phrases "DON'T BLAME" and "DON'T MAKE EXCUSES" were directed at blacks and was racist in nature. 


What are you doing in being negative about Ben Carson's accomplishments?  They are completely negative without giving him credit for raising himself from extreme poverty.  You are saying he didn't do it and inferring racism. 

 

There is no excuse for anyone not showing ambition and striving to raise their lot in life or in any pursuit.

 

I don't necessarily agree with Carson, his politics or even present position, but I do appreciate anyone who works to improve his lot in life. I get the feeling that liberals want people who were in his position growing up to just take welfare and maintain the status quo.

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@ChasKy53 wrote:


But do you believe the list of ridiculous points that Ben Carson made?


Perhaps you should research more about Carson's life?  Yes his points are believable, first because his mother pushed him, requiring book reports that she herself could barely read.  Then he became interested in the material and went from a failing student to the top of his class, merely because of developing an interest in what he read.

 

https://www.biography.com/people/ben-carson-475422

 

From what I gather here from answers from you and others, there is no interest in discussion except from a negative standpoint because of partianism. 

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@ChasKy53 wrote:

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No, I simply tell the truth. That has a tendency to receive KUDOS, sorry that trump supporters don't realize that.


Again, what does this thread have to do with Trump or politics?  Perhaps you have something about anyone of any skin color attempting to improve themselves through reading books or knowledge?


"Perhaps"? Well, "perhaps" could be put before many sentences falsely accusing you of things too.  It's a shame you have to go there.


Of course you didn't answer the question, and are avoiding anything about the original post about reading enabled Carson to pull himself up from a life of poverty.  That wouldn't fit into the liberal philosophy of holding those in need hostage to a life of welfare.

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A high-quality school system statistically does much more good than reading books for moving people out of poverty.

 

And better-off people are much more likely to blame poor people for their lot than vice versa. 

 


A school system is only as good as the willingness of the students to learn, and that depends upon how the teachers inspire the student to learn.  You forget that a good many of our leaders has come from average schools.  And from the quality of the teachers.  I have learned as much, if not more, from the one and two room schools I attended as from the well equipped ones, in fact more because of the attention from the teachers.  Yes, I am that old.

 

But you are completely forgetting that any school depends upon books for the information.  And audio-visual equipment doesn't stir the imagination as much as reading books.

 

But yes, poor people themselves has a responsibililty for their achievements, because if they don't help themselves whatever help is given to them is for naught.  Just as the old saying goes, 'God helps those that helps themselves'. 

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I hope all realize who the person is that she posted about. It is Ben Carson who is now in the Trump Cabinet. He is Sec. of Housing. He was a good brain surgeon, but no so good in his present job. He spent a lot of money for dishes, and items for his Office. In a way you are all being used as the poster should have told all up front the full story on the person. Our far right at work.

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