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The Impeachment Of Donald Trump: Who's At Fault?

Here's how I see it, and you'e free to agree or disagree, because in this great country, you're still able to do that. During the Impeachment Inquiry, the House Intelligence Committee had 1 job to do: To provide enough evidence to warrant an Impeachment Trial. The Senates' job during the actual Trial was to review the evidence provided by the House, and attempt to ellicit first hand proof (i.e. documents and eye witnesses) to either support or discredit the Houses' findings. The huge, unforgivable mistake that the House made was this: instead of saying "We have enough evidence to warrant a formal Impeachment Trial," they said, "We have enough evidence to Impeach the President." The Republicans siezed on that, flipped the tables, and implied that it was the Houses' reponsibility to provide first hand evidence, which they were unable to get, and didn't pursue it through the courts. So, the Senate stated: "The House said we have everything we need to Impeach. No need for witnesses, documents, nothing. No real proof - case closed."  I don't know who to blame more for this sham of a Trial.

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This thread is more of the same Mumbo Jumbo from Trump World, as they try to rationalize the horrible behavior of Republicans in the Senate. 

 

In an American trial, the prosecution presents evidence and calls witnesses, then the defense offers a rebuttal, and finally, the jury renders its verdict. In a third world banana republic, or a larger version of a dictatorship, the prosecution is NOT allowed to introduce evidence or call witnesses.

 

The Republicans in the Senate turned that branch of government into a third world banana republic, by not allowing the prosecution to present evidence or call witnesses. They did this to protect their Supreme Leader in the White House. It looked like a dictatorship to me and to everyone else who expected a fair and impartial trial.

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you can bet Vald is loving the US Senate right now. And that is really SAD!!!!
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wow! Mitt Romney has a pair!!!

 

Romney the only one to vote to convict Trump. 

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@ej64073754 wrote:

Here's how I see it, and you'e free to agree or disagree, because in this great country, you're still able to do that. During the Impeachment Inquiry, the House Intelligence Committee had 1 job to do: To provide enough evidence to warrant an Impeachment Trial. The Senates' job during the actual Trial was to review the evidence provided by the House, and attempt to ellicit first hand proof (i.e. documents and eye witnesses) to either support or discredit the Houses' findings. The huge, unforgivable mistake that the House made was this: instead of saying "We have enough evidence to warrant a formal Impeachment Trial," they said, "We have enough evidence to Impeach the President." The Republicans siezed on that, flipped the tables, and implied that it was the Houses' reponsibility to provide first hand evidence, which they were unable to get, and didn't pursue it through the courts. So, the Senate stated: "The House said we have everything we need to Impeach. No need for witnesses, documents, nothing. No real proof - case closed."  I don't know who to blame more for this sham of a Trial.


I blame the House since they know the person is presumed innocent until proven guilty and they refused to support Republican chosen witnesses because it doomed their case so the House hearing had four carefully chosen witnesses (by the House).  Then when it got to the Senate trial, they wanted to have their cake and eat it also by naming witnesses they wanted at the Senate trial. It was Adam Schiff's gall that lost them the case (if it could be won).

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@NOTHAPPENING wrote:

@ej64073754 wrote:

Here's how I see it, and you'e free to agree or disagree, because in this great country, you're still able to do that. During the Impeachment Inquiry, the House Intelligence Committee had 1 job to do: To provide enough evidence to warrant an Impeachment Trial. The Senates' job during the actual Trial was to review the evidence provided by the House, and attempt to ellicit first hand proof (i.e. documents and eye witnesses) to either support or discredit the Houses' findings. The huge, unforgivable mistake that the House made was this: instead of saying "We have enough evidence to warrant a formal Impeachment Trial," they said, "We have enough evidence to Impeach the President." The Republicans siezed on that, flipped the tables, and implied that it was the Houses' reponsibility to provide first hand evidence, which they were unable to get, and didn't pursue it through the courts. So, the Senate stated: "The House said we have everything we need to Impeach. No need for witnesses, documents, nothing. No real proof - case closed."  I don't know who to blame more for this sham of a Trial.


I blame the House since they know the person is presumed innocent until proven guilty and they refused to support Republican chosen witnesses because it doomed their case so the House hearing had four carefully chosen witnesses (by the House).  Then when it got to the Senate trial, they wanted to have their cake and eat it also by naming witnesses they wanted at the Senate trial. It was Adam Schiff's gall that lost them the case (if it could be won).


Then there's that reality thing. Reality is that the Senate is charged with the responsibility of having an actual fair trial with witnesses, just like with Clinton and every other POTUS who has ever had an Impeachment Trial.  But of course we are talking about the corrupt tRump Cult Republicans, not the Republicans of the past.


Man learns from history that man learns nothing from history.
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good for him!! A red state Dem. who will vote to convict Trump. This is a man with a spine unlike the rest of the Trump Party.

 

A red state Dem. who will vote to convict Trump. 

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