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the neoRepublicans need to acknowledge the new vocabulary they have introduced thru their actions. Fascists no longer use the GOVERNMENT to control Industry. The neoFascists use INDUSTRY to control the government.

 

Since no business, company or Corporation is an actual sentient being, PEOPLE are responsible for everything they do. Republicans deny this fact and go about their skulduggery pretending that when a Corporation kills people, there are no PEOPLE to hold responsible, because THE CORPORATION DID IT.

 

In France, the people have figured this all out, and react accordingly when their Oligarchs seek to use their control of the Government to shift the responsibility for the destruction of the environment from the ones doing the destroying (the Oligarchs) to the ones least able to avoid the consequences (the bottom 90%).

 

Conservatives can certainly argue against all this, but when they chose instead to hire thugs (or simply dupe the mentally enfeebled to do their violence for free, as do the Republicans) to commit acts of violence against the ones protesting getting screwed over, then they should expect that the ones receiving the violence may chose to seek out the REAL culprets in their homes, at dinner or walking the streets and confront them with their crimes.

 

GOPerLords hate this, it goes against all their planning for the last half century - namely that THEY escape all responsibility for their actions and leave the bleeding and dying to their dupes.

 

For a VERY long time, Republicans have quietly sought out the support of the Nazis, KKK and White Supremacists, knowing those folks can easily be provoked to violence and its easy for the GOPerLords to deny any responsibility for such thugs, even when the Lords finance the engineered confrontations and promote attendence by the thugs via their Trolls in the social media.

 

Republicans talk a lot about "responsibility" but the only thing they want is for the bottom 50% to be RESPONSIBLE for paying more federal income tax so the GOPerLords can pay LESS.

 

What we're seeing in France is the bottom 90% refusing to pick up the tab for the environmental destruction that was caused by the top 10% via their corporate decisions over the last half century, decisions than transfered enormous wealth into their pockets. Now the 90% would like some of that wealth to come back OUT of those pockets and fix the mess they created.


I hope you realize that the word "fascist" has a meaning. If you are going to use the word, you really should use the real definition. And your nonsense of including Nazis, Kluxers and the rest in your attacks on Republicans and Conservatives (the right) also needs a bit of attention payed to definitions - real definitions, not hate filled interpretations.

 

As to France, again your class warfare and neoMarxism becomes the basis of the argument. The reality is that Macon went the Obama route of selling his nation out to the internationalists and the population (like ours) didn't like it.

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the neoRepublicans need to acknowledge the new vocabulary they have introduced thru their actions. Fascists no longer use the GOVERNMENT to control Industry. The neoFascists use INDUSTRY to control the government.

 

Since no business, company or Corporation is an actual sentient being, PEOPLE are responsible for everything they do. Republicans deny this fact and go about their skulduggery pretending that when a Corporation kills people, there are no PEOPLE to hold responsible, because THE CORPORATION DID IT.

 

In France, the people have figured this all out, and react accordingly when their Oligarchs seek to use their control of the Government to shift the responsibility for the destruction of the environment from the ones doing the destroying (the Oligarchs) to the ones least able to avoid the consequences (the bottom 90%).

 

Conservatives can certainly argue against all this, but when they chose instead to hire thugs (or simply dupe the mentally enfeebled to do their violence for free, as do the Republicans) to commit acts of violence against the ones protesting getting screwed over, then they should expect that the ones receiving the violence may chose to seek out the REAL culprets in their homes, at dinner or walking the streets and confront them with their crimes.

 

GOPerLords hate this, it goes against all their planning for the last half century - namely that THEY escape all responsibility for their actions and leave the bleeding and dying to their dupes.

 

For a VERY long time, Republicans have quietly sought out the support of the Nazis, KKK and White Supremacists, knowing those folks can easily be provoked to violence and its easy for the GOPerLords to deny any responsibility for such thugs, even when the Lords finance the engineered confrontations and promote attendence by the thugs via their Trolls in the social media.

 

Republicans talk a lot about "responsibility" but the only thing they want is for the bottom 50% to be RESPONSIBLE for paying more federal income tax so the GOPerLords can pay LESS.

 

What we're seeing in France is the bottom 90% refusing to pick up the tab for the environmental destruction that was caused by the top 10% via their corporate decisions over the last half century, decisions than transfered enormous wealth into their pockets. Now the 90% would like some of that wealth to come back OUT of those pockets and fix the mess they created.

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The Protests are because French Workers are outraged their Conservative President Macron tried to pass the responsibility for fixing their environmental issues onto the backs of the middle and lower classes while the fat cats walked free. We need to learn more about how to organize those being screwed over by the rich to oppose the screwing over.

 

The damage being done is being done by neoFascists of the Trump ilk, and the violence comes from their clashes with the ANTI- Fascists. If the Fascists were not instigating violence, there would be none.


An interesting point - as long as the rational people (Conservatives) sit down, shut up, and do what they are told by the neoMarxists, there will be no trouble.

 

As to Trump and Fascists - fascists do not bow to the authority of the Court as Trump as done, fascists do not undo government control on the economy as Trump has done, and fascists do no empower the free market as Trump has done. And since tax increases only effect the working class in your thinking, tax cuts (ala Trump) must only benefit them.

 

You'll have to find a new buzz word, that one is getting old and doesn't work (except with the defenders of the radical mobs that call themselves antifa).

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The Protests are because French Workers are outraged their Conservative President Macron tried to pass the responsibility for fixing their environmental issues onto the backs of the middle and lower classes while the fat cats walked free. We need to learn more about how to organize those being screwed over by the rich to oppose the screwing over.

 

The damage being done is being done by neoFascists of the Trump ilk, and the violence comes from their clashes with the ANTI- Fascists. If the Fascists were not instigating violence, there would be none.

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PARIS- French authorities will close dozens of museums, tourism sites and shops on Saturday, including the Eiffel Tower and Louvre, fearing a recurrence of last week's violence in Paris, officials said on Thursday.

 

"We cannot take the risk when we know the threat," Culture Minister Franck Riester told RTL radio, adding that far-right and far-left agitators were planning to hijack rallies by "yellow vest" protesters in Paris.

 
 

He said the Louvre museum, Orsay museum, the two operas, and the Grand Palais were among the sites that would be closed a week after rioters looted and defaced the Arc de Triomphe.

The Eiffel Tower will also be closed on Saturday due to the protests, the site's operator SETE said, warning that it could not ensure security for visitors.

 

With protesters calling on social media for "Act IV" - a fourth weekend of protest - Prime Minister Edouard Philippe said 65,000 police would be drafted in to stop a repeat of last Saturday's mayhem in Paris, when rioters torched cars and looted shops off the Champs Elysees boulevard.

At least four of the weekend's first division football matches have been canceled.

 

Paris police asked dozens of shop and restaurant owners around the Champs Elysees and Bastille areas to close on Saturday and requested local authorities in 15 areas around the capital to remove anything in the streets that could be used as projectiles.

 

The government is also considering using troops currently deployed on anti-terrorism patrols to protect public buildings.

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/eiffel-tower-close-saturday-due-planned-paris-protests-n944876

 

 

 

 

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   I am not surprised that the RW deniers of global warming have embraced this action, regardless that they no nothing about it especially that it was started by Fake news and FB.    Ignorance is bliss to the RW and they apparently do not care if anyone is killed or harmed....(aka Charlotteville).   

    To them it is all a zero-sum game to them.   I find that particularly pathetic.   


Of course, throw out the dog whistles of the left - RW deniers, Fake news, FB, C'ville, etc. but you do have a point. I, as a Conservative, am pleased to see the will of the people hold sway.

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   I am not surprised that the RW deniers of global warming have embraced this action, regardless that they no nothing about it especially that it was started by Fake news and FB.    Ignorance is bliss to the RW and they apparently do not care if anyone is killed or harmed....(aka Charlotteville).   

    To them it is all a zero-sum game to them.   I find that particularly pathetic.   

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BY:  Jerret Stepman

 

The anarchical mayhem in the streets of Paris in recent days paint a picture of a fractured society with deep-seated problems—a breakdown of the fragile yet essential rule of law.

 

While we’ve come to expect such things in France, there are specific reasons why these protests have erupted in the last month.

 

The “climate” agenda, peddled as a means to save the planet and reduce inequality, is being exposed in France as an agenda inherently at odds with the interests of middle- and working-class people.

 

Last year, a wide range of American and international media, celebrities, and activists excoriated President Donald Trump for pulling the United States out of the international Paris climate agreement. Trump said in 2017 that he would put “no other consideration before the well-being of American citizens” and that he would reject an agreement that would force taxpayers to “absorb the cost in terms of lost jobs, lower wages, shuttered factories, and vastly diminished economic production.”

Former Vice President and climate change activist Al Gore said at the time that leaving the deal was a “reckless and indefensible action.”

 

But Americans may in fact have a better grasp of their interests than a tiny elite across the pond and in America’s powerful media institutions. For proof, look to the streets of Paris.

 

Paris is now burning, and French President Emmanuel Macron, who was once widely praised as a kind of “centrist” savior of the global community, is in hot political waters.

 

Macron’s approval ratings sit at 23 percent in a recent poll, according to Reuters, a new low for his presidency. The “yellow vest” protesters, as they’ve been called, have forced his administration toback off its proposed new gas and utility taxes.

 

The protesters appear to come from a vast swath of French society and don’t fit neatly on the ideological spectrum. They’ve rebelled against high taxes while also calling for increases in the minimum wage.

 

Alas, the consequences of living in a society where the government is involved in every aspect of a person’s life.

 

“France’s violent Yellow Vest protests are now about many domestic concerns, but it’s no accident that the trigger was a fuel-tax hike,” read an editorial for The Wall Street Journal. “Nothing reveals the disconnect between ordinary voters and an aloof political class more than carbon taxation.”

 

France’s widespread use of nuclear power has allowed it to move a bit further away from the carbon economy in terms of energy costs, but its transportation sector is still highly reliant on oil, The Wall Street Journal noted.

 

Nicolas Loris, an economist and regulatory expert at The Heritage Foundation, highlighted the widespread economic harm that’s caused by “green” policies:

 

Global warming regulations for new and existing power plants will drive electricity bills higher for families and businesses. Fuel efficiency mandates for cars, trucks, and heavy-duty vehicles increase the up-front cost of vehicles by thousands of dollars. Methane regulations on oil and gas would introduce burdensome, complex processes that would likely slow the industry’s current efforts to reduce emissions, which have been falling for decades.

For the average person, the cost of the war on climate change can be severe.

In a country like France, which is already dealing with economic hardship, low growth, and high joblessness rates, you have a recipe for disaster.

 

Maybe there is something to be said about leaders asserting national self-interest after all.

The shocking images of riots are nevertheless emblematic of the collapse of the green agenda and the animosity it engenders from the people it harms: the forgotten men—squeezed by regulations and taxes—who don’t count themselves among the privileged fewwho receive generous green energy subsidies.

 

In France, many see this dysfunctional system as inevitable and unchangeable without extreme recourse.

 

Certainly, we should deplore the mobs and destruction of property. In America, we’d hope that our differences can be solved through elections, deliberation, and peaceful protest, if necessary.

This is certainly possible as long as we maintain our constitutional system and a cultural respect for the rule of law that the Founding Fathers and generations of Americans blessed us with.

 

While France’s economy is stagnant, the U.S. economy has been booming—in part due to the flourishing oil industry and the curtailment of regulations that were a hallmark of the Obama era.

Are the conditions in Europe really what we want to replicate in the U.S.?

 

California is going down this path, and perhaps the new Congress will as well. But the chaos in France should serve as a stern warning of what lies down the road.

 

https://www.dailysignal.com/2018/12/04/the-green-agenda-burns-to-ashes-in-paris/?mkt_tok=eyJpIjoiWkR...

 

 

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