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Our sad sorry right wing shows once again what the experts tell us is true. Speaking of drop out try one for a year.

 

You are still unable to accept the fact that you erred with regard to those NY-NJ pathways.

 

Quite immature.


 


No error but the far right do not understand any of this as our experts told us they are uneducated, easy to lead, can not think for them selves.  The project was paid for mostly by Federal money just as most projects like that are, but our far right does not understand that. Well look at how they attacked the kids in FL. How low can they get. Will they attack the kids in MD after the shooting today. Time will tell.


Which project was paid for with federal funds? Not the Holland Tunnel, not the Lincoln Tunnel, not the George Washington Bridge.

 

And it is hard to see the connection between vehicle travel between NY and NJ as connected to school shootings except as a diversion from yet another wild claim.


You are asking questions again and that is not permitted until you answer my questions. I can assure everyone that the project I am talking about had the money approved by Congress of millions of dollars. Trump wants that approval rescinded. Lets see how long it takes for him to figure that out. Please do not help him. Let him do it on his own.


Play the "question game" if it makes you happy but there is no way to avoid the reality - you were wrong about the bridges, tunnels, whatever. They were not paid for by the feds.

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Our sad sorry right wing shows once again what the experts tell us is true. Speaking of drop out try one for a year.

 

You are still unable to accept the fact that you erred with regard to those NY-NJ pathways.

 

Quite immature.


 


No error but the far right do not understand any of this as our experts told us they are uneducated, easy to lead, can not think for them selves.  The project was paid for mostly by Federal money just as most projects like that are, but our far right does not understand that. Well look at how they attacked the kids in FL. How low can they get. Will they attack the kids in MD after the shooting today. Time will tell.


Which project was paid for with federal funds? Not the Holland Tunnel, not the Lincoln Tunnel, not the George Washington Bridge.

 

And it is hard to see the connection between vehicle travel between NY and NJ as connected to school shootings except as a diversion from yet another wild claim.


You are asking questions again and that is not permitted until you answer my questions. I can assure everyone that the project I am talking about had the money approved by Congress of millions of dollars. Trump wants that approval rescinded. Lets see how long it takes for him to figure that out. Please do not help him. Let him do it on his own.

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The scam is that somehow everyone will benefit when the rich get a tax cut when the reality is that cutting taxes for the rich DEPRESSES economic activity and the 99% LOSE money in the deal.

The "scam" is a figment of your imagination. Trump reduced both the corporate taxes and the income tax brackets. Those top 1% earners that you detest pay almost 50% of ALL income taxes.

When giving a tax break to all, don't you think the ones getting hammered the most should get a little relief?The top 1% control over 50% of the total wealth in America. Their EFFECTIVE income tax rate is 17% because of all the loopholes they got their GOPers to enact. The REAL income for the average American is now lower than it was in 1964, thanks to all the hidden taxes Republicans used to replace the income lost when they stopped taxingthe rich.

 

The theoretical reason tax cuts increase economic growth is that the money will be spent on CONSUMPTION. That will cause companies to expand their production using overtime which will further increase available income which will release "pent-up demand" to sustain the higher consumption and the higher profits will be used to expand capacity (more plant and equipment) and more hiring.

Did you ever get hired by a poverty stricken person? Most of the high earners are the people that hire others.Nearly 20% of US Corporations were so "poverty stricken" they PAID NO INCOME TAX, yet they paid their Executives millions but have not raised their workers wages in decades. You work for a Corporation, you work for a fictional person who's legally just as "broke" as the half of Americans you hate so much.

 

The ACTUAL reason tax cuts for the rich are a scam is virtually all of the cut goes to the rich who ALREADY satisfy all their desires with a fraction of their income, so the money goes into "sterile investments" - purchase of existing stocks, bonds and realestate which require no increase in "overtime" to produce - they already exist.

As I explained before, those currently paying little tax or no tax will get little relief from a tax cut. They are already getting subsidized by the 1%.They are subsidized by the Middle Class who pay the higher State and local taxes and fees because the rich will not pay their workers enough to live on.

 

The share of the cut going to the 99% is almost entirely used to reduce existing DEBT, which again requires no overtime and the economy SLOWS because Government spending slows OR Government borrowing increases, taking Capital OUT of the economy, and increasing its cost (interest rates) and making private projects unaffordable because of the higher cost of borrowing.

So, lets have a fairer system where EVERYONE pays 15% tax on their income with no deductions for anything. Sounds good?Another huge tax cut for the Uberrich (down 12%) and increase (up 25%) for everyone else.

 

The things Government cuts almost entirely benefit the 99%, so either the service is lost or the 99% have to pay for it out-of-pocket and that takes up any of their tax cut that wasn't already used to reduce debt.

The things government cut are paid for by the 1%, so why shouldn't they get their (own) money back? Never was their's, they paid less than what their economic activity did to deterioriate our infrastructure, which is why all the things our grandparents left us are falling apart.

 

This is why Reagan's Taxscam REDUCED real revenues to the Government which were not recovered until 1999 and why Der Trumper's scam handing the vast majority of the cut to Corporate Oligarchs may NEVER be recovered.

Corporate cuts hopefully will bring back money from overseas, build more companies here, generate more jobs, prevent more unemployment, cut welfare, and over the long term will not cause more debt.Never happened, never will. The Corporate Oligarchs have already spent over $200Billion this year to buy back stock, $60Billion MORE than they got from the scam which is $60Billion LESS for improved worker wages and plant and equipment.

 


 


 


Relax, scout. When and if the neomarxists resume their long march and take over  I am sure they will seize the property of the productive and distribute to to the rest. And as far as buying back stock - no sweat, there will be no stock. The government will own, operate and control every facet of life.

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Our sad sorry right wing shows once again what the experts tell us is true. Speaking of drop out try one for a year.

 

You are still unable to accept the fact that you erred with regard to those NY-NJ pathways.

 

Quite immature.


 


No error but the far right do not understand any of this as our experts told us they are uneducated, easy to lead, can not think for them selves.  The project was paid for mostly by Federal money just as most projects like that are, but our far right does not understand that. Well look at how they attacked the kids in FL. How low can they get. Will they attack the kids in MD after the shooting today. Time will tell.


Which project was paid for with federal funds? Not the Holland Tunnel, not the Lincoln Tunnel, not the George Washington Bridge.

 

And it is hard to see the connection between vehicle travel between NY and NJ as connected to school shootings except as a diversion from yet another wild claim.

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The scam is that somehow everyone will benefit when the rich get a tax cut when the reality is that cutting taxes for the rich DEPRESSES economic activity and the 99% LOSE money in the deal.

The "scam" is a figment of your imagination. Trump reduced both the corporate taxes and the income tax brackets. Those top 1% earners that you detest pay almost 50% of ALL income taxes.

When giving a tax break to all, don't you think the ones getting hammered the most should get a little relief?The top 1% control over 50% of the total wealth in America. Their EFFECTIVE income tax rate is 17% because of all the loopholes they got their GOPers to enact. The REAL income for the average American is now lower than it was in 1964, thanks to all the hidden taxes Republicans used to replace the income lost when they stopped taxingthe rich.

 

The theoretical reason tax cuts increase economic growth is that the money will be spent on CONSUMPTION. That will cause companies to expand their production using overtime which will further increase available income which will release "pent-up demand" to sustain the higher consumption and the higher profits will be used to expand capacity (more plant and equipment) and more hiring.

Did you ever get hired by a poverty stricken person? Most of the high earners are the people that hire others.Nearly 20% of US Corporations were so "poverty stricken" they PAID NO INCOME TAX, yet they paid their Executives millions but have not raised their workers wages in decades. You work for a Corporation, you work for a fictional person who's legally just as "broke" as the half of Americans you hate so much.

 

The ACTUAL reason tax cuts for the rich are a scam is virtually all of the cut goes to the rich who ALREADY satisfy all their desires with a fraction of their income, so the money goes into "sterile investments" - purchase of existing stocks, bonds and realestate which require no increase in "overtime" to produce - they already exist.

As I explained before, those currently paying little tax or no tax will get little relief from a tax cut. They are already getting subsidized by the 1%.They are subsidized by the Middle Class who pay the higher State and local taxes and fees because the rich will not pay their workers enough to live on.

 

The share of the cut going to the 99% is almost entirely used to reduce existing DEBT, which again requires no overtime and the economy SLOWS because Government spending slows OR Government borrowing increases, taking Capital OUT of the economy, and increasing its cost (interest rates) and making private projects unaffordable because of the higher cost of borrowing.

So, lets have a fairer system where EVERYONE pays 15% tax on their income with no deductions for anything. Sounds good?Another huge tax cut for the Uberrich (down 12%) and increase (up 25%) for everyone else.

 

The things Government cuts almost entirely benefit the 99%, so either the service is lost or the 99% have to pay for it out-of-pocket and that takes up any of their tax cut that wasn't already used to reduce debt.

The things government cut are paid for by the 1%, so why shouldn't they get their (own) money back? Never was their's, they paid less than what their economic activity did to deterioriate our infrastructure, which is why all the things our grandparents left us are falling apart.

 

This is why Reagan's Taxscam REDUCED real revenues to the Government which were not recovered until 1999 and why Der Trumper's scam handing the vast majority of the cut to Corporate Oligarchs may NEVER be recovered.

Corporate cuts hopefully will bring back money from overseas, build more companies here, generate more jobs, prevent more unemployment, cut welfare, and over the long term will not cause more debt.Never happened, never will. The Corporate Oligarchs have already spent over $200Billion this year to buy back stock, $60Billion MORE than they got from the scam which is $60Billion LESS for improved worker wages and plant and equipment.

 


 


 

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Our sad sorry right wing shows once again what the experts tell us is true. Speaking of drop out try one for a year.

 

You are still unable to accept the fact that you erred with regard to those NY-NJ pathways.

 

Quite immature.


 


No error but the far right do not understand any of this as our experts told us they are uneducated, easy to lead, can not think for them selves.  The project was paid for mostly by Federal money just as most projects like that are, but our far right does not understand that. Well look at how they attacked the kids in FL. How low can they get. Will they attack the kids in MD after the shooting today. Time will tell.

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@Olderscout66wrote:

The scam is that somehow everyone will benefit when the rich get a tax cut when the reality is that cutting taxes for the rich DEPRESSES economic activity and the 99% LOSE money in the deal.

The "scam" is a figment of your imagination. Trump reduced both the corporate taxes and the income tax brackets. Those top 1% earners that you detest pay almost 50% of ALL income taxes. https://www.cnbc.com/2015/04/13/top-1-pay-nearly-half-of-federal-income-taxes.html

 

When giving a tax break to all, don't you think the ones getting hammered the most should get a little relief?

 

The theoretical reason tax cuts increase economic growth is that the money will be spent on CONSUMPTION. That will cause companies to expand their production using overtime which will further increase available income which will release "pent-up demand" to sustain the higher consumption and the higher profits will be used to expand capacity (more plant and equipment) and more hiring.

Did you ever get hired by a poverty stricken person? Most of the high earners are the people that hire others.

 

The ACTUAL reason tax cuts for the rich are a scam is virtually all of the cut goes to the rich who ALREADY satisfy all their desires with a fraction of their income, so the money goes into "sterile investments" - purchase of existing stocks, bonds and realestate which require no increase in "overtime" to produce - they already exist.

As I explained before, those currently paying little tax or no tax will get little relief from a tax cut. They are already getting subsidized by the 1%.

 

The share of the cut going to the 99% is almost entirely used to reduce existing DEBT, which again requires no overtime and the economy SLOWS because Government spending slows OR Government borrowing increases, taking Capital OUT of the economy, and increasing its cost (interest rates) and making private projects unaffordable because of the higher cost of borrowing.

So, lets have a fairer system where EVERYONE pays 15% tax on their income with no deductions for anything. Sounds good?

 

The things Government cuts almost entirely benefit the 99%, so either the service is lost or the 99% have to pay for it out-of-pocket and that takes up any of their tax cut that wasn't already used to reduce debt.

The things government cut are paid for by the 1%, so why shouldn't they get their (own) money back?

 

This is why Reagan's Taxscam REDUCED real revenues to the Government which were not recovered until 1999 and why Der Trumper's scam handing the vast majority of the cut to Corporate Oligarchs may NEVER be recovered.

Corporate cuts hopefully will bring back money from overseas, build more companies here, generate more jobs, prevent more unemployment, cut welfare, and over the long term will not cause more debt.

 


 

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The scam is that somehow everyone will benefit when the rich get a tax cut when the reality is that cutting taxes for the rich DEPRESSES economic activity and the 99% LOSE money in the deal.

 

The theoretical reason tax cuts increase economic growth is that the money will be spent on CONSUMPTION. That will cause companies to expand their production using overtime which will further increase available income which will release "pent-up demand" to sustain the higher consumption and the higher profits will be used to expand capacity (more plant and equipment) and more hiring.

 

The ACTUAL reason tax cuts for the rich are a scam is virtually all of the cut goes to the rich who ALREADY satisfy all their desires with a fraction of their income, so the money goes into "sterile investments" - purchase of existing stocks, bonds and realestate which require no increase in "overtime" to produce - they already exist.

 

The share of the cut going to the 99% is almost entirely used to reduce existing DEBT, which again requires no overtime and the economy SLOWS because Government spending slows OR Government borrowing increases, taking Capital OUT of the economy, and increasing its cost (interest rates) and making private projects unaffordable because of the higher cost of borrowing.

 

The things Government cuts almost entirely benefit the 99%, so either the service is lost or the 99% have to pay for it out-of-pocket and that takes up any of their tax cut that wasn't already used to reduce debt.

 

This is why Reagan's Taxscam REDUCED real revenues to the Government which were not recovered until 1999 and why Der Trumper's scam handing the vast majority of the cut to Corporate Oligarchs may NEVER be recovered.

 

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Our sad sorry right wing shows once again what the experts tell us is true. Speaking of drop out try one for a year.

 

You are still unable to accept the fact that you erred with regard to those NY-NJ pathways.

 

Quite immature.


 

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Well we see no understanding of the real world. Person pays less in income taxes, and more in other Federal Taxes, fees, state and local taxes to more than make up for any income tax refund they got. Fact is they pay more than the refund they got. You have to look at the full picture not just one small part. We already know the Feds are running short of money as they need the debit ceiling raised sooner. We see tariffs placed on things, passport fees raised, infrastructure projects unfunded (NY-NJ Tunnel example). Sad how easy it is to fool some people.


Which NY-NJ federal tunnel are you talking about?


You are asking questions again and until you answer mine you are not permitted to do that. Go look it up.


I did, they do not exist. It appears you are again making wild claims and covering them up with your petty "question game".


Here you see how bad the far right are. It does exist and was part of a story in the paper this morning. The far right can not even find a Tunnel and once again prove the experts correct when they tell us they are uneducated, can not think for them selves. It also proves why no one should ever waste their time and effort trying to have a decent back and forth with them.


It's not all that complex - what NY-NJ tunnel is federal?


You are asking a question again and you are not permitted to do that until you answer all of mine.


Come on - man up. They do not exist. Your "question game" is quite transparent.


Well you live up to the far right the experts have told us about. I see some posters have told you a little information. They have to keep in mind that you posted it was federal which once again proves what the experts tell us about the far right. There is Federal money in all projects such as this. Now would you like to apologize to all of us for the post you made about the School kid in FL. Until you do no one should even acknoledge you exist.


I have no idea how that gibberish relates. Bottom line - they are not federal and totally unrelated to the FL school kids. It's over, let it go.

 

Maybe it's time for you to do another drop out "until you answer all my questions".




Our sad sorry right wing shows once again what the experts tell us is true. Speaking of drop out try one for a year.
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