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Judge Sullivan asked Flynn's attorney today if he or his client felt Flynn was entrapped. Answer, "No."

 

Case closed. Smiley Very Happy


They had the transcript, they questioned him about the call - what else if not entrapment?


When his counsel was asked by the judge, Flynn stated he was not entrapped. Case closed.

 

"Sullivan immediately took aim at the notion of entrapment during Flynn’s sentencing hearing, saying he wondered if Flynn had really accepted responsibility for his crime, according to reporters in the courthouse. Responding to questions from Sullivan, Flynn said he knew that lying to the FBI was illegal and his lawyer said he wasn’t contending that Flynn needed to be reminded of that, nor that he needed to have a lawyer present, or that Flynn “was entrapped by the FBI.” Flynn reportedly affirmed several times that he was guilty of lying to the FBI."

 

https://qz.com/1499887/mike-flynn-walks-back-the-suggestion-the-fbi-entrapped-him/

 

 


And yet there is Comey bragging about what they got away with because of the disorder in the new Administration.

 

And an interesting two part issue - first, they had the transcripts, why ask the question if not looking to entrap? Second, was talking to the Ambassador illegal?


Was Comey charged with entrapment in the Flynn case? Nope. Gee, must be another big ole right wing conspiracy to cover up the Trump admin climbing in bed with the Russians from the get-go.

 

Flynn pleaded guilty to the crimes he committed. A judge would not allow guilty pleas unless Flynn had broken the law. And when asked by the judge if Flynn was entrapped, the answer was no. Case closed. Smiley Very Happy

 

 

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/statements/byruling/false/ (11 pages of lies and growing)
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When the judge rescheduled Flynn's sentencing, he read aloud an inventory of Flynn's lies.  It took eight full minutes. 

 

The Gettysburg address was given in under 3 minutes.

 

This was not an unintentional OOOPS. 

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And this folks is how a RW conspiracy theory dies.     While standing in front of a judge who controls Flynn's future ask him point blank to refute the CT's that Donald et al are / were spreading.   Flynn folded, BOOM!

 

I can't wait to read the RW spin on this...perhaps it is true, their don't pay attention to any news outside their bubble.      I just did a simple search and there is no discussion on RW sites about the court appearance, they remain in denial.


Do you know what agreements were made between Flynn and Mueller that led to that declaration? And, is "he should have known better" not a possible reason for his statement?

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@BigLib wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

@BigLib wrote:

Judge Sullivan asked Flynn's attorney today if he or his client felt Flynn was entrapped. Answer, "No."

 

Case closed. Smiley Very Happy


They had the transcript, they questioned him about the call - what else if not entrapment?


When his counsel was asked by the judge, Flynn stated he was not entrapped. Case closed.

 

"Sullivan immediately took aim at the notion of entrapment during Flynn’s sentencing hearing, saying he wondered if Flynn had really accepted responsibility for his crime, according to reporters in the courthouse. Responding to questions from Sullivan, Flynn said he knew that lying to the FBI was illegal and his lawyer said he wasn’t contending that Flynn needed to be reminded of that, nor that he needed to have a lawyer present, or that Flynn “was entrapped by the FBI.” Flynn reportedly affirmed several times that he was guilty of lying to the FBI."

 

https://qz.com/1499887/mike-flynn-walks-back-the-suggestion-the-fbi-entrapped-him/

 

 


And yet there is Comey bragging about what they got away with because of the disorder in the new Administration.

 

And an interesting two part issue - first, they had the transcripts, why ask the question if not looking to entrap? Second, was talking to the Ambassador illegal?

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I hope all have read the material being released on TV this evening. We see more indictments, and $600,000 being paid to Flynn by Turkey for his work. The line in this thread became the in thing during last week if you watched FOX. They spent a few day on it, and that was the signal to the followers that this would be the diversion subject to cover while Flynn is being sentenced this week. Do not spend to much time on this. Read the report on how Russia used social media to try and control how this country thinks. What is going on here is outlined in detail.


When did the emphasis shift from "Russian collusion" to "Turkish collusion"?

 

I'll go see what Fox has to say about that. No one else is explaining it.

 

As to the Russians trying to divide us, many posters here are prime examples. Unrelenting attacks on the elected President of the US must cause the vodka to flow in Moscow.

 

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The emphasis never switched as both countries were in this from day one with Flynn. Go look at what you and the other far right were posting then. Turkey was paying Flynn as their paid lobbyist, Russia was bribing Flynn to support their efforts to elect Trump. Flynn was a paid commentator on RT TV here in the US, went to large dinner with others like Jill Stein who were part of the crew Russia used, and Flynn was compromised by Russia when he lied about his dealing with the Russian Ambassador. Flynn pleaded guilty to that, and to being an unlicensed foreign Reb. for Turkey.  The far right has already gone to FOX that is why we see all of a sudden this appears all over the net including here. This was chosen as the diversion by the far right leadership just as outlined in the report on how Russia was involved in our elections, and other things.  The only people trying to divide us are the far right and that is outlined in the report on Russia and the far right. Yes the Vodka is flowing in Moscow due to the mess Trump has created all around the world, and how his far right enablers have acted to assist him.

 

What were his "dealings" with the Ambassador? It seemed he was establishing a relationship in preparation for his new job.

 

Working on a TV station is not being bribed. And it seems strange to think that Russia was bribing him to support Trump.

 

Now, his lie to the FBI. They had the transcripts. Why did they need to ask him except to look for entrapment?

 

The Russian's involvement in the elections - no doubt. Their goal was (and is) to weaken us by division. Their constant attacks on the President and everyone associated with him (including the Mueller fishing expedition) plays right into their game plan.



 


The judge put this fake right wing subject to bed this afternoon in court. He made Flynn refute everything the far right enablers leaders have been saying on FOX about this subject. Even FOX told all its viewers that the Judge proved what they were saying is wrong. That means everything posted in the media by the followers has been proven wrong per FOX NEWS. Truth wins Trump and enablers loose.


"Entrapped" is hardly "everything". You have misquoted Fox.

 

It might be said that he was not entrapped because he should have known. Yet, there is Comey bragging how they did get away with something because of the disorder in the new Administration.

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Nope - I am saying that he followed Mueler's instructions and interpreted an honest misstatement as a lie. It's a definition game.


And today the judge told him "You turned your back on your country for money"

 

No, not a misstatement.  Only to Republicans and we plan to use that even more in 2020. 


Do you have any idea what that means. Surely, consulting without filling out the paperwork isn't all that dramatic.

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And this folks is how a RW conspiracy theory dies.     While standing in front of a judge who controls Flynn's future ask him point blank to refute the CT's that Donald et al are / were spreading.   Flynn folded, BOOM!

 

I can't wait to read the RW spin on this...perhaps it is true, their don't pay attention to any news outside their bubble.      I just did a simple search and there is no discussion on RW sites about the court appearance, they remain in denial.

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Snoopy48:   How could anyone rise to become an Army General and the National Security Advisor without knowing that lying to the FBI was illegal? Flynn has now admitted in court that he knew lying to the FBI was illegal so you can stop worrying that he was entrapped.

 

 

No rational person would think Flynn didn't know that. On the other hand, we're dealing with people who blamed President Obama for the Katrina disaster. I don't take them or what they say seriously.

 

 

 

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@rk9152 wrote:

@BigLib wrote:

Judge Sullivan asked Flynn's attorney today if he or his client felt Flynn was entrapped. Answer, "No."

 

Case closed. Smiley Very Happy


They had the transcript, they questioned him about the call - what else if not entrapment?


When his counsel was asked by the judge, Flynn stated he was not entrapped. Case closed.

 

"Sullivan immediately took aim at the notion of entrapment during Flynn’s sentencing hearing, saying he wondered if Flynn had really accepted responsibility for his crime, according to reporters in the courthouse. Responding to questions from Sullivan, Flynn said he knew that lying to the FBI was illegal and his lawyer said he wasn’t contending that Flynn needed to be reminded of that, nor that he needed to have a lawyer present, or that Flynn “was entrapped by the FBI.” Flynn reportedly affirmed several times that he was guilty of lying to the FBI."

 

https://qz.com/1499887/mike-flynn-walks-back-the-suggestion-the-fbi-entrapped-him/

 

 

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/statements/byruling/false/ (11 pages of lies and growing)
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@rk9152 wrote:

@john258 wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

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I hope all have read the material being released on TV this evening. We see more indictments, and $600,000 being paid to Flynn by Turkey for his work. The line in this thread became the in thing during last week if you watched FOX. They spent a few day on it, and that was the signal to the followers that this would be the diversion subject to cover while Flynn is being sentenced this week. Do not spend to much time on this. Read the report on how Russia used social media to try and control how this country thinks. What is going on here is outlined in detail.


When did the emphasis shift from "Russian collusion" to "Turkish collusion"?

 

I'll go see what Fox has to say about that. No one else is explaining it.

 

As to the Russians trying to divide us, many posters here are prime examples. Unrelenting attacks on the elected President of the US must cause the vodka to flow in Moscow.

 

__________________________________________________

The emphasis never switched as both countries were in this from day one with Flynn. Go look at what you and the other far right were posting then. Turkey was paying Flynn as their paid lobbyist, Russia was bribing Flynn to support their efforts to elect Trump. Flynn was a paid commentator on RT TV here in the US, went to large dinner with others like Jill Stein who were part of the crew Russia used, and Flynn was compromised by Russia when he lied about his dealing with the Russian Ambassador. Flynn pleaded guilty to that, and to being an unlicensed foreign Reb. for Turkey.  The far right has already gone to FOX that is why we see all of a sudden this appears all over the net including here. This was chosen as the diversion by the far right leadership just as outlined in the report on how Russia was involved in our elections, and other things.  The only people trying to divide us are the far right and that is outlined in the report on Russia and the far right. Yes the Vodka is flowing in Moscow due to the mess Trump has created all around the world, and how his far right enablers have acted to assist him.

 

What were his "dealings" with the Ambassador? It seemed he was establishing a relationship in preparation for his new job.

 

Working on a TV station is not being bribed. And it seems strange to think that Russia was bribing him to support Trump.

 

Now, his lie to the FBI. They had the transcripts. Why did they need to ask him except to look for entrapment?

 

The Russian's involvement in the elections - no doubt. Their goal was (and is) to weaken us by division. Their constant attacks on the President and everyone associated with him (including the Mueller fishing expedition) plays right into their game plan.



 


The judge put this fake right wing subject to bed this afternoon in court. He made Flynn refute everything the far right enablers leaders have been saying on FOX about this subject. Even FOX told all its viewers that the Judge proved what they were saying is wrong. That means everything posted in the media by the followers has been proven wrong per FOX NEWS. Truth wins Trump and enablers loose.

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