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Whining from the DRUDGE report.    Apparently this whiz bang guy is too stupid to lie as that is exactly what he did on his 302.   IS the RW now saying that they adore and support a guy with a long military career, gee he was a DIA director  and had a 30 year military career and now he is saying that he was "tricked"....really?    The amusement factor is growing, much like his lies and questionable explanations.

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Breaking – Mueller team recommends 6 months in prison for General Flynn…

Posted by Kane on January 7, 2020 2:47 pm

 

Federal prosecutors urged a judge Tuesday to sentence former national security advisor Michael Flynn later this month to anywhere from zero to six months in jail for lying to federal agents about his contacts with a Russian diplomat shortly before the inauguration of President Donald Trump.

 

The recommendation was a sharp reversal for prosecutors, who previously had asked that Flynn get a sentence with no jail time in recognition of his extensive help with “several ongoing investigations” following his guilty plea in late 2017.

 

In their new court filing — which comes more than a year after Flynn’s original sentencing hearing was dramatically aborted — prosecutors cited the “serious nature of” the retired Army lieutenant general’s crime and “his apparent failure to accept responsibility” for his actions.

 

They also accused him of trying to “thwart the efforts” of prosecutors to convict other people, even as he assisted them in other criminal cases.

 

The new recommendation comes after months of efforts by Flynn and his defense lawyers to effectively undo his guilty plea in the case by arguing that prosecutors had withheld evidence from him, and that the FBI had misled Flynn.

 

“In light of the complete record, including actions subsequent to December 18, 2018, that negate the benefits of much of the defendant’s earlier cooperation, the government no longer deems the defendant’s assistance ‘substantial,’ prosecutors wrote.

 

“The government also does not believe the defendant should receive credit for acceptance of responsibility,” prosecutors wrote. “Indeed, the government has reason to believe, through representations by the defendant’s counsel, that the defendant has retreated from his acceptance of responsibility in this case regarding his lies to the FBI.”

 

Flynn currently is scheduled to be sentenced by Judge Emmet Sullivan on Jan. 28.

 

“The defendant is now scheduled to be sentenced almost exactly three years from the date of his primary criminal conduct – lying to the FBI – and the intervening years have included periods where the defendant has sought to assist and aid the government, and periods where the defendant has sought to thwart the efforts of the government to hold other individuals, principally Bijan Rafiekian, accountable for criminal wrongdoing,” prosecutors wrote in their filing.

 

 

 

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I have made no such claim. I'm just trying to get people to say what they think he is guilty of. Would you care to offer your opinion?


I think he is guilty of lying to the FBI.  The judge thinks he is guilty of lying to the FBI. Flynn plead guilty to the charge of lying to the FBI.  Flynn told the judge he plead guilty because he DID lie to the FBI. 

 

Yeah, I think he lied to the FBI. 


O.K. - he foolishly sat down with Strzok and Mc Cabe for a little informal chat. They discussed stuff with him that they already knew because they had the transcripts - so they were not looking for information. What do you suppose the purpose of that was? Seems to lead back to the topic.

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In addition to the investigation into Russian meddling in the U.S. election, Special Counsel Robert Mueller is reportedly now also probing an alleged plan by White House National Security Adviser Mike Flynn to deliver a Muslim cleric living in the U.S. to Turkey in exchange for millions of dollars, the Wall Street Journal reports. Flynn and his son, Michael Flynn Jr., were allegedly set to receive up to $15 million for helping to forcibly remove Fethullah Gulen from the U.S. and for providing him to the Turkish government. President Tayyip Erdogan has repeatedly asked that Gulen be extradited to Turkey.

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@rk9152 wrote:

I have made no such claim. I'm just trying to get people to say what they think he is guilty of. Would you care to offer your opinion?


I think he is guilty of lying to the FBI.  The judge thinks he is guilty of lying to the FBI. Flynn plead guilty to the charge of lying to the FBI.  Flynn told the judge he plead guilty because he DID lie to the FBI. 

 

Yeah, I think he lied to the FBI. 

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@Snoopy48 wrote:

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 There was no trial. All your insults and nonsense about welfare will not change that fact.


 


It's the defendant's choice whether to go to trial, or cut a deal. The defendant in this case chose to cut a deal. He still had a hearing where the judge reviewed the facts of the case, and asked the defendant if the facts of the case are accurate. All your caca and whining about "he never had a hearing" will change that fact.

 

 


Agreed - there was no trial. 

 

"Caca"????


Does that mean that everyone who pleads guilty before sitting through a trial is now innocent?


No.


The why do you claim that Flynn is not guilty of the crimes to which he plead guilty?


I have made no such claim. I'm just trying to get people to say what they think he is guilty of. Would you care to offer your opinion?

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@rk9152 wrote:

@Snoopy48 wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

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@rk9152 wrote:

 There was no trial. All your insults and nonsense about welfare will not change that fact.


 


It's the defendant's choice whether to go to trial, or cut a deal. The defendant in this case chose to cut a deal. He still had a hearing where the judge reviewed the facts of the case, and asked the defendant if the facts of the case are accurate. All your caca and whining about "he never had a hearing" will change that fact.

 

 


Agreed - there was no trial. 

 

"Caca"????


Does that mean that everyone who pleads guilty before sitting through a trial is now innocent?


No.


The why do you claim that Flynn is not guilty of the crimes to which he plead guilty?

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@Snoopy48 wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

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@rk9152 wrote:

 There was no trial. All your insults and nonsense about welfare will not change that fact.


 


It's the defendant's choice whether to go to trial, or cut a deal. The defendant in this case chose to cut a deal. He still had a hearing where the judge reviewed the facts of the case, and asked the defendant if the facts of the case are accurate. All your caca and whining about "he never had a hearing" will change that fact.

 

 


Agreed - there was no trial. 

 

"Caca"????


Does that mean that everyone who pleads guilty before sitting through a trial is now innocent?


No.

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@Snoopy48 wrote:

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No, that is an idea that would only occur to the uninformed. You need to get a new drum, the one you are beating has failed.


O.K. let's assume you are informed - what is he guilty of?


Why is he not guilty of the crimes he stated he was guilty of committing?

 

What do you think Flynn is guilty of? I didn't say he wasn't guilty - I am just wondering what it is we are talking about that you see him as guilty of?


 

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@rk9152 wrote:

@BigLib wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

 There was no trial. All your insults and nonsense about welfare will not change that fact.


 


It's the defendant's choice whether to go to trial, or cut a deal. The defendant in this case chose to cut a deal. He still had a hearing where the judge reviewed the facts of the case, and asked the defendant if the facts of the case are accurate. All your caca and whining about "he never had a hearing" will change that fact.

 

 


Agreed - there was no trial. 

 

"Caca"????


Does that mean that everyone who pleads guilty before sitting through a trial is now innocent?

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