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 There was no trial. All your insults and nonsense about welfare will not change that fact.


 


It's the defendant's choice whether to go to trial, or cut a deal. The defendant in this case chose to cut a deal. He still had a hearing where the judge reviewed the facts of the case, and asked the defendant if the facts of the case are accurate. All your caca and whining about "he never had a hearing" will change that fact.

 

 


Agreed - there was no trial. 

 

"Caca"????

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Let's not get wrapped around the axle about what "some" will do. Let's talk about Flynn. What do you think he is guilty of other than lying to Strzok.


Oh  really!!!  he lied to Strzok?    and only him?    Gee, why did he tell the judge then such a different story. ?   Poor Flynn, he is really been entrapped. by whom?

But please, perhaps you are going to tell us that Flynn had a private conversation with you and alerted about what you have just posted.


The only person who entrapped Flynn was Flynn.

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@Snoopy48 wrote:

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I'm sure the Special Prosecution team has had a lot of " friendly discussions ".


I doubt it. Comey's words seemed to indicate this was the exception.


When Flynns lawyers heard who the Judge would be U.S. District Judge Emmet Sullivan they were elated because His Honor had a long reputation of intollerance toward prosecutorial misconduct.

 

But when the Judge Sullivan read the current Republican line, he went ballistic, spent a great deal of time reading each individual charge, and pointedly asking Flynn if he understood at that time lying to the FBI was a crime, and waiting until Flynn replied, "Yes, I did know lying to the FBI was a crime."

 

The Judge then told Flynn he was a disgrace to his career, his uniform and his country and informed Flynn he was having his passport seized and that Flynn was not to travel more than 50 miles from Washington DC. Then His Honor said going to wait to see how Flynn behaved in cooperating with Mueller for the next 90 days, and he was definately considering having him serve jail time for his crimes, despite what Mueller had recommended because of how Flynn attacked the FBI and tried to mitigate his numerous crimes.

 

LOCK HIM UP LOCK HIM UP LOCK HIM UP - and unlike Flynn's chant at the Rebublican Convention, there's a whole list of actual felony crimes Flynn committed to justify LOCKING HIM UP


Is there anything he did other than falling into Stzrok's trap that he did for which you'd like to "LOCK HIM UP"?


I guess that in your mind pleading guilty and further admitting in court that he knew he was committing a crime when he did it somehow makes him innocent because the mean guys asked him a question they already knew the answer to. Using that ‘defense’ would mean that any time a suspect is asked a question, even his name, the case should be thrown out because of ‘entrapment’.


For what crime do you want to "LOCK HIM UP"? And please, not lying to the FBI (they had the transcripts so it was obvious entrapment). Surely there is something else - what is it?


The crimes he admitted to in court. If it was obvious entrapment why have Flynn and his legal team denied that? 

 

Just because the questioners already had some proof of the facts doesn’t mean they cannot ask the question. If we follow your line of ‘reasoning’ if law enforcement asks a person for his name when they already know it they have committed entrapment.

 

Do i understand you to say that he is only guilty of lying to Strzok?


No, that is an idea that would only occur to the uninformed. You need to get a new drum, the one you are beating has failed.

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@rk9152 wrote:

 There was no trial. All your insults and nonsense about welfare will not change that fact.


 


It's the defendant's choice whether to go to trial, or cut a deal. The defendant in this case chose to cut a deal. He still had a hearing where the judge reviewed the facts of the case, and asked the defendant if the facts of the case are accurate. All your caca and whining about "he never had a hearing" will change that fact.

 

 

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/statements/byruling/false/ (11 pages of lies and growing)
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 Oh, so then the case hasn't been heard despite your claim otherwise.

 


 


How asinine. It's called a sentencing HEARING. It's becoming more and more apparent that what Trump's criminal swamp MAGATS actually undertand couldn't overflow a thimble.

 

Someone on welfare? right wingers go - They obviously lied to get it. Flynn admits to lying? right wingers go - Nope, entrapment.

 

Someone getting housing assistance? right wingers go - They refuse to take accountability for their life. Flynn admits to lying, so hold him accountable? right wingers go - No! Why, the poor little lamb hasn't even had a hearing.

 

Yeah, he didn't have a hearing - except for the hearing where he got his butt handed to him.

 

 There was no trial. All your insults and nonsense about welfare will not change that fact.


 

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@rk9152 wrote:

 

 Oh, so then the case hasn't been heard despite your claim otherwise.

 


 


How asinine. It's called a sentencing HEARING. It's becoming more and more apparent that what Trump's criminal swamp MAGATS actually undertand couldn't overflow a thimble.

 

Someone on welfare? right wingers go - They obviously lied to get it. Flynn admits to lying? right wingers go - Nope, entrapment.

 

Someone getting housing assistance? right wingers go - They refuse to take accountability for their life. Flynn admits to lying, so hold him accountable? right wingers go - No! Why, the poor little lamb hasn't even had a hearing.

 

Yeah, he didn't have a hearing - except for the hearing where he got his butt handed to him.

 

 

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/statements/byruling/false/ (11 pages of lies and growing)
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Let's not get wrapped around the axle about what "some" will do. Let's talk about Flynn. What do you think he is guilty of other than lying to Strzok.


Oh  really!!!  he lied to Strzok?    and only him?    Gee, why did he tell the judge then such a different story. ?   Poor Flynn, he is really been entrapped. by whom?

But please, perhaps you are going to tell us that Flynn had a private conversation with you and alerted about what you have just posted.


Sorry - Strzok and whoever was with him.

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Was "E" the letter of the week on Trump's criminal swamp Sesame Street? The blind ignorance of Trump supporters has them stuck repeating extortion - entrapment - extortion - entrapment.

Quite childish.

 

 


 


The case hasn't been heard??? The case has been heard to the point that it's just waiting on it's sentencing. What, you think sentencing comes at the beginning before any evidence is heard? Wow. Yeah, "quite childish" describes your comments.

 

There was only negotiations between the opposing attorneys.

 

If you don't like "childish" to the point you have to go schoolyard with, "Oh yeah, well you are too" avoid nonsense about Sesame Street "and "criminal swamp".


Oh, so then Flynn didn't show up for sentencing, which is what happens at the end of a case, after it's been heard? How asinine. Must be how MAGATS spin the facts in Trump's criminal swamp that has now drowned Flynn, because he's a big fat admitted liar. Quite childish to persist in flat-out falsehoods. Guess Flynn is learning that lesson.

 

 Oh, so then the case hasn't been heard despite your claim otherwise.

 

And then the "MAGATS" and "swamp" which adds nothing.


 

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Let's not get wrapped around the axle about what "some" will do. Let's talk about Flynn. What do you think he is guilty of other than lying to Strzok.


Oh  really!!!  he lied to Strzok?    and only him?    Gee, why did he tell the judge then such a different story. ?   Poor Flynn, he is really been entrapped. by whom?

But please, perhaps you are going to tell us that Flynn had a private conversation with you and alerted about what you have just posted.

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@Tom5678 wrote:
for anyone who still thinks Flynn was backed into a corner and "pressured" into his situation, I recommend this read. Pop goes the theory!

https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/michael-flynn-lied-fbi-lie-was-crime-white-house-alan-ncna9501...

I read it and didn't see anything about him guilty of anything but lying to Strzok. Did I miss something?

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