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The Flynn Entrapment

BY: The Editorial Board | WSJ

 

 

Of Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s many targets, the most tragic may be former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn. The former three-star general pleaded guilty last year to a single count of lying to the FBI about conversations he had with Russia’s ambassador to the U.S. Now we learn from Mr. Flynn’s court filing to the sentencing judge that senior bureau officials acted in a way to set him up for the fall.

 

Not a rich man after decades in uniform, Mr. Flynn pleaded guilty to avoid bankruptcy and spare his son from becoming a legal target. Mr. Flynn’s filing doesn’t take issue with the description of his offense. But the “additional facts” the Flynn defense team flags for the court raise doubts about FBI conduct.

 

The Flynn filing describes government documents concerning the Jan. 24, 2017 meeting with two FBI agents when Mr. Flynn supposedly lied. It turns out the meeting was set up by then Deputy FBI Director Andrew McCabe, who personally called Mr. Flynn that day on other business—to discuss an FBI training session. By Mr. McCabe’s account, on that call he told Mr. Flynn he “felt that we needed to have two of our agents sit down” with him to talk about his Russia communications.

 

Mr. McCabe then urged Mr. Flynn to meet without a lawyer present. “I explained that I thought the quickest way to get this done was to have a conversation between [Mr. Flynn] and the agents only. I further stated that if LTG Flynn wished to include anyone else in the meeting, like the White House Counsel for instance, that I would need to involve the Department of Justice. [Mr. Flynn] stated that this would not be necessary and agreed to meet with the agents without any additional participants,” wrote Mr. McCabe in a memo viewed by the Flynn defense team.

 

According to the FBI summary of the interview—known as a 302—Mr. McCabe and FBI officials “decided the agents would not warn Flynn that it was a crime to lie during an FBI interview because they wanted Flynn to be relaxed and they were concerned that giving the warnings might adversely affect the rapport.”

 

We also know from then FBI Director James Comey that this was his idea. This is “something I probably wouldn’t have done or wouldn’t have gotten away with in a more organized administration,” Mr. Comey boasted on MSNBC this weekend. “In the George W. Bush Administration or the Obama Administration, if the FBI wanted to send agents into the White House itself to interview a senior official, you would work through the White House counsel, there would be discussions and approvals and who would be there. And I thought, it’s early enough let’s just send a couple guys over.”

 

If the goal was to set a legal trap, it worked. The two agents showed up at the White House within hours of Mr. McCabe’s call, and they reported in the 302 that General Flynn had been “relaxed and jocular” and “clearly saw the FBI agents as allies.” One of the agents was Peter Strzok, who is famous for his anti-Trump texts to his FBI paramour.

 

The FBI agents had seen transcripts of Mr. Flynn’s conversations with the Russian ambassador that were “unmasked” by Obama Administration officials. The 302 says that rather than flag this and ask Mr. Flynn for an explanation, the FBI agents decided before the meeting that if “Flynn said he did not remember something they knew he said, they would use the exact words Flynn used, . . . to try to refresh his recollection. If Flynn still would not confirm what he said, . . . they would not confront him or talk him through it.”

 

Keep in mind the FBI’s counterintelligence probe into Russia and the Trump campaign was still secret. Mr. Flynn had done nothing wrong in conversing with the Russian ambassador—it was part of his job—and he had no reason to believe he was in legal jeopardy. He initially claimed he misremembered what was discussed, which is more believable than that a highly decorated officer would lie to FBI officers he agreed to see without counsel.

 

Mr. Flynn’s lawyers are requesting probation and community service, though the facts suggest the judge should question the entire plea deal. Messrs. McCabe and Strzok have both been fired for misconduct, and their behavior reeks of entrapment.

 

If he does nothing else, President Trump has an obligation to former aides like Michael Flynn and to the public to declassify and disclose the FBI documents related to the FBI’s Russia probe.

 

https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-flynn-entrapment-11544658915

 

 

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Judge Sullivan asked Flynn's attorney today if he or his client felt Flynn was entrapped. Answer, "No."

 

Case closed. 😄


They had the transcript, they questioned him about the call - what else if not entrapment?


When his counsel was asked by the judge, Flynn stated he was not entrapped. Case closed.

 

"Sullivan immediately took aim at the notion of entrapment during Flynn’s sentencing hearing, saying he wondered if Flynn had really accepted responsibility for his crime, according to reporters in the courthouse. Responding to questions from Sullivan, Flynn said he knew that lying to the FBI was illegal and his lawyer said he wasn’t contending that Flynn needed to be reminded of that, nor that he needed to have a lawyer present, or that Flynn “was entrapped by the FBI.” Flynn reportedly affirmed several times that he was guilty of lying to the FBI."

 

https://qz.com/1499887/mike-flynn-walks-back-the-suggestion-the-fbi-entrapped-him/

 

 

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/statements/byruling/false/ (13 pages of lies and growing)
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@BigLib wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

@BigLib wrote:

Judge Sullivan asked Flynn's attorney today if he or his client felt Flynn was entrapped. Answer, "No."

 

Case closed. 😄


They had the transcript, they questioned him about the call - what else if not entrapment?


When his counsel was asked by the judge, Flynn stated he was not entrapped. Case closed.

 

"Sullivan immediately took aim at the notion of entrapment during Flynn’s sentencing hearing, saying he wondered if Flynn had really accepted responsibility for his crime, according to reporters in the courthouse. Responding to questions from Sullivan, Flynn said he knew that lying to the FBI was illegal and his lawyer said he wasn’t contending that Flynn needed to be reminded of that, nor that he needed to have a lawyer present, or that Flynn “was entrapped by the FBI.” Flynn reportedly affirmed several times that he was guilty of lying to the FBI."

 

https://qz.com/1499887/mike-flynn-walks-back-the-suggestion-the-fbi-entrapped-him/

 

 


And yet there is Comey bragging about what they got away with because of the disorder in the new Administration.

 

And an interesting two part issue - first, they had the transcripts, why ask the question if not looking to entrap? Second, was talking to the Ambassador illegal?

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@rk9152 wrote:

@BigLib wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

@BigLib wrote:

Judge Sullivan asked Flynn's attorney today if he or his client felt Flynn was entrapped. Answer, "No."

 

Case closed. 😄


They had the transcript, they questioned him about the call - what else if not entrapment?


When his counsel was asked by the judge, Flynn stated he was not entrapped. Case closed.

 

"Sullivan immediately took aim at the notion of entrapment during Flynn’s sentencing hearing, saying he wondered if Flynn had really accepted responsibility for his crime, according to reporters in the courthouse. Responding to questions from Sullivan, Flynn said he knew that lying to the FBI was illegal and his lawyer said he wasn’t contending that Flynn needed to be reminded of that, nor that he needed to have a lawyer present, or that Flynn “was entrapped by the FBI.” Flynn reportedly affirmed several times that he was guilty of lying to the FBI."

 

https://qz.com/1499887/mike-flynn-walks-back-the-suggestion-the-fbi-entrapped-him/

 

 


And yet there is Comey bragging about what they got away with because of the disorder in the new Administration.

 

And an interesting two part issue - first, they had the transcripts, why ask the question if not looking to entrap? Second, was talking to the Ambassador illegal?


Was Comey charged with entrapment in the Flynn case? Nope. Gee, must be another big ole right wing conspiracy to cover up the Trump admin climbing in bed with the Russians from the get-go.

 

Flynn pleaded guilty to the crimes he committed. A judge would not allow guilty pleas unless Flynn had broken the law. And when asked by the judge if Flynn was entrapped, the answer was no. Case closed. 😄

 

 

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@BigLib wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

@BigLib wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

@BigLib wrote:

Judge Sullivan asked Flynn's attorney today if he or his client felt Flynn was entrapped. Answer, "No."

 

Case closed. 😄


They had the transcript, they questioned him about the call - what else if not entrapment?


When his counsel was asked by the judge, Flynn stated he was not entrapped. Case closed.

 

"Sullivan immediately took aim at the notion of entrapment during Flynn’s sentencing hearing, saying he wondered if Flynn had really accepted responsibility for his crime, according to reporters in the courthouse. Responding to questions from Sullivan, Flynn said he knew that lying to the FBI was illegal and his lawyer said he wasn’t contending that Flynn needed to be reminded of that, nor that he needed to have a lawyer present, or that Flynn “was entrapped by the FBI.” Flynn reportedly affirmed several times that he was guilty of lying to the FBI."

 

https://qz.com/1499887/mike-flynn-walks-back-the-suggestion-the-fbi-entrapped-him/

 

 


And yet there is Comey bragging about what they got away with because of the disorder in the new Administration.

 

And an interesting two part issue - first, they had the transcripts, why ask the question if not looking to entrap? Second, was talking to the Ambassador illegal?


Was Comey charged with entrapment in the Flynn case? Nope. Gee, must be another big ole right wing conspiracy to cover up the Trump admin climbing in bed with the Russians from the get-go.

"CHARGED"??? What law does it break?

 

Flynn pleaded guilty to the crimes he committed. A judge would not allow guilty pleas unless Flynn had broken the law. And when asked by the judge if Flynn was entrapped, the answer was no. Case closed. 😄

Are you sure that if both parties agree a judge will not permit the plea?

 

 


 

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Was Comey charged with entrapment in the Flynn case? Nope. Gee, must be another big ole right wing conspiracy to cover up the Trump admin climbing in bed with the Russians from the get-go.

"CHARGED"??? What law does it break?

 

Flynn pleaded guilty to the crimes he committed. A judge would not allow guilty pleas unless Flynn had broken the law. And when asked by the judge if Flynn was entrapped, the answer was no. Case closed. 😄

Are you sure that if both parties agree a judge will not permit the plea?

 


Well if you don't think entrapment is a crime, then why are you accusing Comey of it? Here's a hint for ya - entrapment IS a crime. Flynn was asked if he felt entrapped and the answer is no. Case closed. 😄

 

As to your second comment, show me the record of any judge that is bent on sentencing people that haven't committed a crime. I'd venture to say that most judges aren't like Trump, and actually READ and familiarize themselves with the work before them.

 

 

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Was Comey charged with entrapment in the Flynn case? Nope. Gee, must be another big ole right wing conspiracy to cover up the Trump admin climbing in bed with the Russians from the get-go.

"CHARGED"??? What law does it break?

 

Flynn pleaded guilty to the crimes he committed. A judge would not allow guilty pleas unless Flynn had broken the law. And when asked by the judge if Flynn was entrapped, the answer was no. Case closed. 😄

Are you sure that if both parties agree a judge will not permit the plea?

 


Well if you don't think entrapment is a crime, then why are you accusing Comey of it? Here's a hint for ya - entrapment IS a crime. Flynn was asked if he felt entrapped and the answer is no. Case closed. 😄

 

As to your second comment, show me the record of any judge that is bent on sentencing people that haven't committed a crime. I'd venture to say that most judges aren't like Trump, and actually READ and familiarize themselves with the work before them. 

 

 I have accused people of operating out of blind hatred for our President - it isn't a crime, "accusing" does not make a "crime". Comey seemed quite proud of the entrapment they created.

 

Can you point to the law against entrapment thereby making it a crime? That would be a great "hint".

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 I have accused people of operating out of blind hatred for our President - it isn't a crime, "accusing" does not make a "crime". Comey seemed quite proud of the entrapment they created.

 

Can you point to the law against entrapment thereby making it a crime? That would be a great "hint".


If you're so certain entrapment played a role in the Flynn case, then how come the case wasn't thrown out? That's the way it works, ya know. Entrapment does have criminal implications (civil implications, too). When the judge asked if Flynn felt entrapped, and the answer was NO, that's where this right wing conspiracy theory ends.

 

Was "E" the letter of the week on Trump's criminal swamp Sesame Street? The blind ignorance of Trump supporters has them stuck repeating extortion - entrapment - extortion - entrapment.

 

 

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/statements/byruling/false/ (13 pages of lies and growing)
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@BigLib wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

 I have accused people of operating out of blind hatred for our President - it isn't a crime, "accusing" does not make a "crime". Comey seemed quite proud of the entrapment they created.

 

Can you point to the law against entrapment thereby making it a crime? That would be a great "hint".


If you're so certain entrapment played a role in the Flynn case, then how come the case wasn't thrown out? 

Because the case hasn't been heard.

 

Was "E" the letter of the week on Trump's criminal swamp Sesame Street? The blind ignorance of Trump supporters has them stuck repeating extortion - entrapment - extortion - entrapment.

Quite childish.

 

 


 

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@rk9152 wrote:

@BigLib wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

 I have accused people of operating out of blind hatred for our President - it isn't a crime, "accusing" does not make a "crime". Comey seemed quite proud of the entrapment they created.

 

Can you point to the law against entrapment thereby making it a crime? That would be a great "hint".


If you're so certain entrapment played a role in the Flynn case, then how come the case wasn't thrown out? 

Because the case hasn't been heard.

 

Was "E" the letter of the week on Trump's criminal swamp Sesame Street? The blind ignorance of Trump supporters has them stuck repeating extortion - entrapment - extortion - entrapment.

Quite childish.

 

 


 


The case hasn't been heard??? The case has been heard to the point that it's just waiting on it's sentencing. What, you think sentencing comes at the beginning before any evidence is heard? Wow. Yeah, "quite childish" describes your comments.

 

 

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@BigLib wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

@BigLib wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

 I have accused people of operating out of blind hatred for our President - it isn't a crime, "accusing" does not make a "crime". Comey seemed quite proud of the entrapment they created.

 

Can you point to the law against entrapment thereby making it a crime? That would be a great "hint".


If you're so certain entrapment played a role in the Flynn case, then how come the case wasn't thrown out? 

Because the case hasn't been heard.

 

Was "E" the letter of the week on Trump's criminal swamp Sesame Street? The blind ignorance of Trump supporters has them stuck repeating extortion - entrapment - extortion - entrapment.

Quite childish.

 

 


 


The case hasn't been heard??? The case has been heard to the point that it's just waiting on it's sentencing. What, you think sentencing comes at the beginning before any evidence is heard? Wow. Yeah, "quite childish" describes your comments.

 

There was only negotiations between the opposing attorneys.

 

If you don't like "childish" to the point you have to go schoolyard with, "Oh yeah, well you are too" avoid nonsense about Sesame Street "and "criminal swamp".

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@BigLib wrote:

Was "E" the letter of the week on Trump's criminal swamp Sesame Street? The blind ignorance of Trump supporters has them stuck repeating extortion - entrapment - extortion - entrapment.

Quite childish.

 

 


 


The case hasn't been heard??? The case has been heard to the point that it's just waiting on it's sentencing. What, you think sentencing comes at the beginning before any evidence is heard? Wow. Yeah, "quite childish" describes your comments.

 

There was only negotiations between the opposing attorneys.

 

If you don't like "childish" to the point you have to go schoolyard with, "Oh yeah, well you are too" avoid nonsense about Sesame Street "and "criminal swamp".


Oh, so then Flynn didn't show up for sentencing, which is what happens at the end of a case, after it's been heard? How asinine. Must be how MAGATS spin the facts in Trump's criminal swamp that has now drowned Flynn, because he's a big fat admitted liar. Quite childish to persist in flat-out falsehoods. Guess Flynn is learning that lesson.

 

 

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@BigLib wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

@BigLib wrote:

Was "E" the letter of the week on Trump's criminal swamp Sesame Street? The blind ignorance of Trump supporters has them stuck repeating extortion - entrapment - extortion - entrapment.

Quite childish.

 

 


 


The case hasn't been heard??? The case has been heard to the point that it's just waiting on it's sentencing. What, you think sentencing comes at the beginning before any evidence is heard? Wow. Yeah, "quite childish" describes your comments.

 

There was only negotiations between the opposing attorneys.

 

If you don't like "childish" to the point you have to go schoolyard with, "Oh yeah, well you are too" avoid nonsense about Sesame Street "and "criminal swamp".


Oh, so then Flynn didn't show up for sentencing, which is what happens at the end of a case, after it's been heard? How asinine. Must be how MAGATS spin the facts in Trump's criminal swamp that has now drowned Flynn, because he's a big fat admitted liar. Quite childish to persist in flat-out falsehoods. Guess Flynn is learning that lesson.

 

 Oh, so then the case hasn't been heard despite your claim otherwise.

 

And then the "MAGATS" and "swamp" which adds nothing.


 

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 Oh, so then the case hasn't been heard despite your claim otherwise.

 


 


How asinine. It's called a sentencing HEARING. It's becoming more and more apparent that what Trump's criminal swamp MAGATS actually undertand couldn't overflow a thimble.

 

Someone on welfare? right wingers go - They obviously lied to get it. Flynn admits to lying? right wingers go - Nope, entrapment.

 

Someone getting housing assistance? right wingers go - They refuse to take accountability for their life. Flynn admits to lying, so hold him accountable? right wingers go - No! Why, the poor little lamb hasn't even had a hearing.

 

Yeah, he didn't have a hearing - except for the hearing where he got his butt handed to him.

 

 

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 Oh, so then the case hasn't been heard despite your claim otherwise.

 


 


How asinine. It's called a sentencing HEARING. It's becoming more and more apparent that what Trump's criminal swamp MAGATS actually undertand couldn't overflow a thimble.

 

Someone on welfare? right wingers go - They obviously lied to get it. Flynn admits to lying? right wingers go - Nope, entrapment.

 

Someone getting housing assistance? right wingers go - They refuse to take accountability for their life. Flynn admits to lying, so hold him accountable? right wingers go - No! Why, the poor little lamb hasn't even had a hearing.

 

Yeah, he didn't have a hearing - except for the hearing where he got his butt handed to him.

 

 There was no trial. All your insults and nonsense about welfare will not change that fact.


 

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 There was no trial. All your insults and nonsense about welfare will not change that fact.


 


It's the defendant's choice whether to go to trial, or cut a deal. The defendant in this case chose to cut a deal. He still had a hearing where the judge reviewed the facts of the case, and asked the defendant if the facts of the case are accurate. All your caca and whining about "he never had a hearing" will change that fact.

 

 

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/statements/byruling/false/ (13 pages of lies and growing)
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@BigLib wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

 There was no trial. All your insults and nonsense about welfare will not change that fact.


 


It's the defendant's choice whether to go to trial, or cut a deal. The defendant in this case chose to cut a deal. He still had a hearing where the judge reviewed the facts of the case, and asked the defendant if the facts of the case are accurate. All your caca and whining about "he never had a hearing" will change that fact.

 

 


Agreed - there was no trial. 

 

"Caca"????

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@rk9152 wrote:

 There was no trial. All your insults and nonsense about welfare will not change that fact.


 


It's the defendant's choice whether to go to trial, or cut a deal. The defendant in this case chose to cut a deal. He still had a hearing where the judge reviewed the facts of the case, and asked the defendant if the facts of the case are accurate. All your caca and whining about "he never had a hearing" will change that fact.

 

 


Agreed - there was no trial. 

 

"Caca"????


Does that mean that everyone who pleads guilty before sitting through a trial is now innocent?

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@rk9152 wrote:

 There was no trial. All your insults and nonsense about welfare will not change that fact.


 


It's the defendant's choice whether to go to trial, or cut a deal. The defendant in this case chose to cut a deal. He still had a hearing where the judge reviewed the facts of the case, and asked the defendant if the facts of the case are accurate. All your caca and whining about "he never had a hearing" will change that fact.

 

 


Agreed - there was no trial. 

 

"Caca"????


Does that mean that everyone who pleads guilty before sitting through a trial is now innocent?


No.

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@rk9152 wrote:

@Snoopy48 wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

@BigLib wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

 There was no trial. All your insults and nonsense about welfare will not change that fact.


 


It's the defendant's choice whether to go to trial, or cut a deal. The defendant in this case chose to cut a deal. He still had a hearing where the judge reviewed the facts of the case, and asked the defendant if the facts of the case are accurate. All your caca and whining about "he never had a hearing" will change that fact.

 

 


Agreed - there was no trial. 

 

"Caca"????


Does that mean that everyone who pleads guilty before sitting through a trial is now innocent?


No.


The why do you claim that Flynn is not guilty of the crimes to which he plead guilty?

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@rk9152 wrote:

@Snoopy48 wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

@BigLib wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

 There was no trial. All your insults and nonsense about welfare will not change that fact.


 


It's the defendant's choice whether to go to trial, or cut a deal. The defendant in this case chose to cut a deal. He still had a hearing where the judge reviewed the facts of the case, and asked the defendant if the facts of the case are accurate. All your caca and whining about "he never had a hearing" will change that fact.

 

 


Agreed - there was no trial. 

 

"Caca"????


Does that mean that everyone who pleads guilty before sitting through a trial is now innocent?


No.


The why do you claim that Flynn is not guilty of the crimes to which he plead guilty?


I have made no such claim. I'm just trying to get people to say what they think he is guilty of. Would you care to offer your opinion?

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I have made no such claim. I'm just trying to get people to say what they think he is guilty of. Would you care to offer your opinion?


I think he is guilty of lying to the FBI.  The judge thinks he is guilty of lying to the FBI. Flynn plead guilty to the charge of lying to the FBI.  Flynn told the judge he plead guilty because he DID lie to the FBI. 

 

Yeah, I think he lied to the FBI. 

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