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@angeleyes64  - So true. Security and identity protection were top concerns. And then Trumpublicans quickly forget that a 2nd whistleblower came forward with direct knowledge that supports the accounts of the 1st, not to mention the partial transcript notes released by Trump, himself, as evidence.

 

Everything both whistleblowers have alleged have been corroborated  through testimony of various officials including Yovanovitch, Hill, Volker, Kent, McKinley, Sondland, plus five or more to go. In fact, these accounts go even farther into the scheme than just the 25 July phone call, as we now know that Giuliani had a much greater hand in all of this. 

 

Trump will likely survive impeachment due to the Trumpublican brown-nosers in the Senate. Giuliani, on the other hand, may face some dire consequences for his involvement. 

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If I was the Whistle Blower I would NEVER come before ANY Republican, because I would never trust them to keep my name out of the press.

 

You couldn't trust them to protect the country, how could you trust them to protect a Whistle Blower? 

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@jimc91 wrote:

 

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Adam Schiff should resign as the chair of this committee...

 

 

 


Well, if anybody is going to resign, President 13K lies should be first on THAT list.

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@jimc91 wrote:

Perhaps you can become specific as to which lie the American people should not believes.
The one that has Trump calling the Ukraine President and withholding money in order to investigate  the Biderns?
or
Perhaps the lie that he stated at the beginning of his Presidency that  he wouldn't benefit from his businesses. and not we have the El doral Scandal?
i could fill a page with all the lies that Trump has stated, so I will allow you to take a pick and let us know which one we should not  believe


 

 

 


 

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Adam Schiff Flip-Flopped On Whistleblower Testimony After Reports Of Coordination

 

After news broke that Schiff's staff had secretly worked with the whistleblower prior to the complaint being lodged, Schiff moved to prevent the whistleblower's testimony.

 

BY:  Mollie Hemingway

 

House Democrats’ top impeachment inquisitor abruptly changed from repeatedly insisting on the testimony of a whistleblower against President Donald Trump to working to prevent it. The change occurred as soon as it was revealed the complainant had secretly worked with Rep. Adam Schiff’s Democratic staff prior to filing his formal complaint on Aug. 12.

 

At first, Schiff insisted an anti-Trump bureaucrat sharing allegations against the president must share his story with the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence. But after news broke that Schiff’s staff had secretly worked with the whistleblower prior to the complaint being lodged, discussions that the whistleblower failed to mention when specifically asked about them as part of the official whistleblower process, Schiff moved to prevent the testimony.

 

The move appears designed to prevent Republican lawmakers from asking the individual under oath about his discussions with House Democrats, media, and others involved in the impeachment effort.

Schiff announced on Sept. 24 the whistleblower had agreed to speak with the committee:

 
 

We have been informed by the whistleblower’s counsel that their client would like to speak to our committee and has requested guidance from the Acting DNI as to how to do so.

We‘re in touch with counsel and look forward to the whistleblower’s testimony as soon as this week.

 

Two days later, Schiff peppered Joseph Maguire, the director of national intelligence, about the need to hear from the “whistleblower” in an uninhibited fashion:

 

ADAM SCHIFF: Director, do I have your assurance that once you work out the security clearances for the whistleblower’s counsel, that that whistleblower will be able to relate the full facts within his knowledge that concern wrongdoing by the president or anyone else, that he or she will not be inhibited in what they can tell our committee, that there will not be some minder from the White House or elsewhere sitting next to them telling them what they can answer or not answer? Do I have your assurance that the whistleblower will be able to testify fully and freely and enjoy the protections of the law?

“We need to speak with the whistleblower,” Schiff and other Democrats proclaimed, repeatedly.

On Sept. 29, Schiff talked about the whistleblower coming in “without a minder from the Justice Department or from the White House to tell the whistleblower what they can or cannot say. We’ll get the unfiltered testimony of that whistleblower.”

 

In early October, however, news broke that the complainant had come to Schiff’s staff before filing. Schiff stopped demanding the testimony, and last Sunday he claimed it was no longer needed. While the extent of their coordination is unknown, the major problem was that the discussions were undisclosed by both Schiff and the anti-Trump complainant. Schiff had publicly denied any such interactions while the bureaucrat failed to mention the contacts when specifically asked about them on a government form.

 

The final portion of the whistleblower form requires whistleblowers to attest under penalty of perjury that they have neither misstated nor concealed material facts in their complaints.

“I certify that all of the statements made in this complaint (including any continuation pages) are true, complete, and correct to the best of my knowledge and belief,” whistleblowers are required to attest. “I understand that, pursuant to 18 U.S.C. 1001, a false statement or concealment of a material fact is a criminal offense punishable by a fine of up to $10,000, imprisonment for up to five years, or both.”

The complaint was composed of second-hand claims, full of gossip and rumor, and riddled with false assertions, as indicated by the actual transcript.

 

Democrats have dramatically switched from demanding transparency about the whistleblower complaint to hiding depositions, transcripts, and evidence. In contrast, President Trump declassified the transcript of the July 25 phone call between Trump and Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky, and documents surrounding the whistleblower complaint.

 

Democrats have insisted on holding their inquisition in secret behind closed doors and are now refusing to allow the whistleblower to testify as both the whistleblower and Schiff had claimed to want prior to the news of their coordination.

 

Similarly, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi has refused to hold a vote on the House floor authorizing an impeachment investigation and delegating investigation authority to a committee for that purpose.

Republican House members are eager to question the individual whose allegations could lead them to have to vote for or against impeachment on the House floor.

 

These questions include:

 

When did you or anyone you’re associated with first approach Democrats on the staff?

 

Did you or your team contact any Republicans? Did you contact anyone in the Republican-controlled Senate? If not, why not?

 

Did you or your team have any interactions with any member of the media?

 

You claim that more than one-half dozen U.S. officials told you this information. Please name them and say what they told you. Have you had any contact with any individuals running for president or their staff in the last three years?

 

While you worked at the National Security Council, did you have any interactions with members of the media regarding internal confidential information within the council?

 

Were you aware at any point of efforts to have you removed from the National Security Council due to allegations of leaking to the media?

 

Are any of the allegations in your complaint supported by firsthand evidence, be it eyewitness or documents? If so, please cite page and line number.

 

Republican members of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence have written a letter to Schiff about his concealment of key documents and evidence from the full committee. It ended by noting that the decision to hide the key witness from questioning severs any feasible tie to the Intelligence Committee.

 

“The highly irregular manner in which you are conducting your so-called ‘impeachment inquiry’ gravely concerns us, as does the fact that you have decreed this matter to be under HPSCI’s jurisdiction despite it lacking any clear intelligence component. Further, given that you have recently acknowledged that the Committee no longer needs to receive testimony from the whistleblower, your ‘impeachment inquiry’ lacks any relationship with the jurisdiction of this Committee,” all Republican members of the committee wrote in a letter, adding that “partisan activities” are “best suited for another Committee.”

 

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Adam Schiff should resign as the chair of this committee...

 

 

 

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Heck, Trump has told over 13,000 lies and misleading statements in 1,000 day. People still believe HIM.  Not as many as before but the dumber ones still do. 

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@Tom5678 wrote:
now this is funny. Schiff's alleged lies???? Really, but its ok that your Commander lies daily, constantly. Pot meet kettle...too funny. LOL.

Yep ...... "alleged" lies. So funny. trump's lies aren't "alleged", they are on record, thousands of them !!!!!   ROFLMAO !!!!!


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Wait.........."False narrative"???

 

The narrative that has been supported by former and current Trump ambassagors? The narrative that has been supported by the intellegence community and the whistle blowers?

The narrative that has been supported by Kevin McCarthy?

 

What color is the sky in your world?

 

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@jimc91 wrote:

BY:  Sara Carter

 

The Ukraine controversy is firing back on Democrats who are trying to perpetuate a false narrative, according to Sara A. Carter’s report on Fox News’ Hannity Monday night.

 

House Intelligence committee Chairman Adam Schiff (D-CA) went before lawmakers to read a completely fabricated account of a phone call between President Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky at a hearing on Capitol Hill several weeks ago.

 

Additionally, Chairman Schiff apparently lied when he claimed that members of the committee hadn’t met with the whistleblower after committee staff did just that.

 

Sara A. Carter told Hannity that Democrats mishandled the investigation entirely.

 

“The whistleblower’s story just didn’t add up,” she said.”Adam Schiff and the whistleblower, himself, did not inform the intelligence community’s Inspector General Michael Atkinson that they had communicated.”

 

The Chairman, along with other prominent Democrats, believe Trump struck a quid-pro-quo deal with Zelensky and that he asked Ukraine to conduct opposition research into a political opponent, former Vice President Joe Biden and his son Hunter Biden. The Democrats claimed that the White House was withholding military aid to Ukraine until the Ukrainians followed through with the investigation against Biden.

 

However, that narrative fell apart. Carter pointed out Zelensky’s recent statements that he never knew any military aid was being withheld and in the transcripts there is no evidence that Trump said anything of the sort.

 

“If you just look at the transcript on its face, which was eventually released by the President, you can see that for yourself,” Carter explained. The transcript was released publicly and showed no evidence of ‘quid pro quo,’ Carter stated.

 

“Schiff is continuing to push, continuing to push over and over again for some type of impeachment and this is moving forward as an impeachment investigation. I just don’t think the American people aren’t gonna buy these lies anymore.”

 

 

 


Still using an opinion writer from FOX and trying to make her opinion fact. Sorry not possible. We know know from a lot of others Trump was caught in an illegal act on this. His own big donor told us that today when he appeared before Congress. Trump chief of staff said it was true in the WH. I think we are up to at least 3 of the people who fed Rudy info being arrested. Just think it was about 2 months ago our far right were posting on the 2 guys from FL who were helping Trump. What the far right did not understand they were helping Trump on his way out. Our far right enablers at work. Never are they correct.

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Tom:  now this is funny. Schiff's alleged lies???? Really, but its ok that your Commander lies daily, constantly. Pot meet kettle...too funny. LOL. 

 

 

 

Yes it is funny that they have the gall to act outraged about lying (which Schiff is not doing) considering who they support. I stopped taking them seriously long ago.

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