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The 13 revelations showing the FBI never really had a Russia collusion case to begin with

Recently declassified evidence directly undercuts the main arguments the FBI used to justify investigating President Trump and his campaign.

 

BY:  John Solomon

 

They’ve come slowly, drip by drip: the reluctant revelations of an FBI bureaucracy. But taken together, the body of evidence now amassed over two years of investigating the investigators explains why Attorney General William Barr last week declared there was never really a basis to probe Donald Trump’s campaign for alleged collusion with Russia.

 

"I think the president has every right to be frustrated, because I think what happened to him was one of the greatest travesties in American history," Barr told Fox News’ Laura Ingraham.

 

"Without any basis they started this investigation of his campaign, and even more concerning, actually is what happened after the campaign, a whole pattern of events while he was president. to sabotage the presidency, and I think that – or at least have the effect of sabotaging the presidency,” the attorney general said.

 

Two years ago, those words coming from the top law enforcement official in the land would have been hard to imagine, or to support with public evidence.

 

But today, after countless open record lawsuits, congressional investigations, sworn depositions and declassifications, there is compelling evidence that the FBI did not have justification to sustain its nearly three year-long, now debunked, Russia collusion probe or to support Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act warrants targeting the Trump campaign.

 

Furthermore, the evidence shows, the false narrative was sustained by repeated leaks of information to the news media that was blatantly false, debunked in many instances by evidence sitting in the FBI's own files.

 

The latest revelations came Friday, when previously classified footnotes from the Justice Department inspector general were unmasked and showed the FBI had stunning reason to distrust Christopher Steele’s dossier when the former British spy first pitched it in July 2016.

 

Here are 13 of the most important revelations that undercut the FBI’s predicate for opening an investigation targeting the Trump campaign in July 2016, for obtaining a year’s worth of FISA warrants to spy on former campaign adviser Carter Page and for seeking a special prosecutor, Robert Mueller, to take over and extend the probe.

 

1.) The FBI possessed information dating to 2015 in Steele’s intelligence (Delta) file warning that he might be the victim of Russian disinformation through his contacts with Vladimir Putin-connected oligarchs. By 2017, the FBI was warned specific false information in Steele's dossier was planted by Russian intelligence, according to the declassified notes that became public from Michael Horowitz’s report.

 

2.) Senior Justice Department official Bruce Ohr warned the FBI in August 2016 that Steele held an extreme bias against Trump (he was “desperate" to defeat Trump) and that his information was likely uncorroborated raw intelligence.

 

3.) Steele’s work on the dossier was funded by Trump’s rival in the election, Hillary Clinton’s campaign, and the Democratic Party, through their opposition research firm, Fusion GPS. Ohr warned the FBI in August 2016 that Steele’s work was connected to the Clinton campaign in some way.

 

4.) Steele told a State Department official in October 2016, 10 days before the FISA warrants were first secured, that he had leaked to the news media and had an election day deadline for making public the information he had shared with the FBI as a confidential human source.

 

5.) Steele was fired Nov. 1, 2016 for violating his confidential human source agreement by leaking to the news media.

 

6.) Information Steele provided to the government was proven, before the FISA warrants were granted, to be false and inaccurate. Specifically, he told State official Kathleen Kavalec in early October 2016 that he believed Russia was funding its h... The Russians did not have a consulate in Miami, Kavalec reported in her notes.

 

7.) Steele was caught in October 2016 peddling a false internet rumor also being spread by a lawyer for the Democratic National Committee and a liberal reporter. That rumor claimed Trump and Putin might be communicating through mysterious computer pings at a server tied to Russia’s Alfa Bank. The rumor was dismissed by the FBI as false.

 

8.) The FBI falsely declared to the FISA court it had corroborated the evidence in Steele’s dossier used in the search warrant application, including that Carter Page had met with two senior Russians in Moscow in summer 2016. In fact, the Page meetings were never corroborated and a spreadsheet that reviewed every statement in the Steele dossier found most were either inaccurate, uncorroborated or information easily found on the Internet.

 

9.) The FBI interviewed Steele’s primary sub-source in January 2017, who claimed much of the information attributed to him was not accurate, exaggerated or rumor.

 

10.) The FBI possessed statements of innocence from Pagecollected by an undercover informer in August and October 2016, including that Page denied meeting with the two Russians and did not play a role in changing a GOP platform position on Ukraine during the Trump nominating convention. The statements undercut two primary allegations made by the FBI in seeking the FISA warrants.

 

11.) The CIA alerted the FBI that Page was a friendly U.S. asset who had assisted the Agency on Russia matters and was not a stooge for the Russian government. The FBI altered a document to hide this revelation.

 

12.) The FBI possessed exculpatory statements made by Trump campaign adviser George Papadopoulos in which he told an undercover informer he and the Trump campaign were not involved in the Russian hacking of Clinton’s emails and considered such activity to be “illegal.” The FBI originally opened the probe of Trump campaign on suspicion Papadopoulos was somehow involved in the hacking.

 

13.) The FBI concluded in January 2017 that Trump national security adviser Mike Flynn was not being deceptiv... in his interviews with agents and likely suffered from a faulty memory and was not operating as an agent for Russia.

 

There are many more revelations that expose flaws, lies and misconduct in the creation of a false Russia collusion narrative. But these 13 alone help explain why Barr made such a sweeping statement last week.

 

They also likely explain a statement made years earlier in text messages between two key FBI employees, when lead Russia case Agent Peter Strzok texted his lawyer and paramour Lisa Page in May 2017 that there was “there's no big there there” in the Russia probe.

 

 

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That Trump and the rest of the regressives have time to dig up old claims when they are supposed to be managing the U.S. response to a pandemic explains a lot about why we can't get tested, why the response was delayed a month, why Trump is de-funding WHO.  

 

He is just not focusing on his job. 

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Newly declassified evidence casts doubt on Obama intel assessment about Russia’s election intentions

 

CIA's former Moscow station chief says 2017 conclusion that Russia tried to elect Trump not supported by evidence.

 

BY:  John Solomon

 

Newly declassified evidence suggesting Russia spread false but derogatory information about President Trump four years ago is calling into question the Obama administration’s intelligence assessment that Moscow was trying to help the Republican win the 2016 election.

 

The evidence declassified over the last two weeks by Director of National Intelligence Ric Grenell and Attorney General William Barr revealed that Russia knew as early as July 2016 that British intelligence operative and FBI informer Christopher Steele was aiding an election year FBI probe of Trump.

 

The evidence also showed the FBI was repeatedly warned that Steele was susceptible to Russian disinformation and that U.S. intelligence concluded some of his Hillary Clinton-funded dossier’s claims about Trump were false information planted by Moscow’s intelligence services.

 

Any effort by Russia to provide negative information about Trump to Steele, an opposition researcher for Clinton’s campaign, would undercut the notion that Moscow was trying to defeat Clinton and help Trump, experts said.

 

As the Obama administration was headed out the door in January 2017, its intelligence leaders concluded with moderate to high confidence that Russia’s election meddling in 2016, including the hack of emails from Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta and the Democratic Party, was designed to help Trump defeat Clinton.

 

While nearly all experts support the conclusion that Russia hacked the emails, some questioned the conclusion about Russia's intentions at the time, including then-House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes, R-Calif. Those doubters say Russia was far more interested in sowing doubt about American democracy -- consistent with its kompromat playbook -- than picking a specific winner or loser.

 

Daniel Hoffman, the CIA’s former station chief in Moscow and one of America’s premier experts on Russia spy tradecraft, said he believed all along the Obama administration’s assessment was wrong and the newly declassified evidence confirms his suspicions.

 

“The question of whether Russia favored Clinton or Trump is superfluous,” he said. “There is no evidence Russia ever had the throw weight to influence the outcome of the 2016 election, the 2017 DNI report confirmed that. 

 

“The reason for Russia’s interference in our electoral process was more simple. Putin hates Democrats, and he hates Republicans because what scares him the most is democracy — freedom, liberty — which continued to be an inspiration to the Russian people whom he oppresses,” Hoffman told Just the News. 

 

Nunes said Sunday he believes the intelligence community assessment (ICA) was as flawed as the Steele dossier and special prosecutor Robert Mueller’s final report.

 

“There's essentially three, what I would call phony documents, also called dossiers," the congressman said, referring to the Steele Dossier, the ICA, and the Mueller report.

 

Republican congressional investigators are now focused on what the CIA was telling the FBI in the period in 2016 before the ICA came out suggesting Russia had helped Trump, Nunes said.

"We need to know exactly what did the CIA give to the FBI in 2016? That's what our investigation is now focusing on,” he said.

 

The newly declassified footnotes from Justice Department Inspector General Michael Horowitz’s report on failings in the Russia probe give several clues to what the CIA knew about how flawed the FBI probe into Trump-Russia collusion was.

 

The concerns included that the CIA knew that the ostensible main target of the FBI probe, former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page, was a CIA asset and not a Russian spy. U.S. intelligence also concluded that meetings that Steele alleged to have attended with Russia figures like Igor Sechin, a Putin acolyte, did not occur, the documents show.

 

In addition, the U.S. intelligence community kept receiving warning signs that information Steele was feeding the FBI in his dossier was false and likely planted by Russian intelligence.

Here are three passages in the recently declassified evidence that highlighted those concerns:

 

  • “A January 12, 2017, report relayed information from [redacted] outlining an inaccuracy in a limited subset of Steele's reporting about the activities of [Trump lawyer] Michael Cohen. The report stated that it did not have high confidence in this subset of Steele's reporting and assessed that the referenced subset was part of a Russian disinformation campaign to denigrate U.S. foreign relations,” one declassified passage declared

 

  • “A USIC report dated February 27, 2017, contained information about an individual with reported connections to Trump and Russia who claimed that the public reporting about the details of Trump's sexual activities in Moscow during a trip in 2013 were false, and that they were the product of [Russian intelligence services] ‘infiltrate[ing] a source into the network" of [redacted], who compiled a dossier based on false information about Trump’s activities fed to him by the infiltrated Russian source.

 

  • "The Primary Sub‐source also told the FBI at these interviews that the sub-source who provided the information about the Carter Page-Sechin meeting had connections to Russian Intelligence Services (RIS).”

Hoffman, the CIA’s former Moscow station chief, said his assessment after the Steele dossier became public in a BuzzFeed media leak in January 2017 was that Russia had fed the former MI6 agent bad information.

 

“I’ve always maintained based on my experience working against Russian intelligence, that the Kremlin was tracking Christopher Steele’s collection efforts. Putin would have recognized the opportunity to infiltrate Steele’s work and plant misinformation, which would not immediately be spotted since Steele was supposed to be a reliable, retired MI-6 officer with a strong background on Russia,” Hoffman said.

 

“Putin hoodwinked everyone who believed the most ‘salacious and unverified’ portions of the Steele dossier. Putin would have purposely included this information because he knew the Trump campaign would vociferously reject the claims. Steele’s reporting was so extreme, it would spark investigation, and if there is one thing Putin knows about our democracy it is that we eventually uncover the truth,” he added. 

 

“Once Steele’s shoddy dossier was exposed for what it was, Trump and his supporters rightfully had a bone to pick with Democrats. So Putin got what he wanted. The Steele dossier was used as fodder in our partisan, political meat grinder. Putin’s goal is to exacerbate the already high level of animosity between Democrats and Republicans, with an eye towards degrading our democracy.”

 

 

 

 

 

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The LIES and PROPGANDA from Trump World never end. Remember, in a cult, they will never stop  trying to defend their Supreme Leader. The  truth? That's irrelevant. 

 

Check this out:

 

"13.) The FBI concluded in Janury 2017 that Trump Naitonal Security Adviser Mike Flynn was not being deceptive in his interviews with agents and likely suffered from a faulty memory and was not operating as an agent for Russia."

 

Really, than how come 3 years later Flynn is still Guilty of Lying to the FBI and the government is NOT dropping the case?

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@CriticalThinking wrote:

The LIES and PROPGANDA from Trump World never end. Remember, in a cult, they will never stop  trying to defend their Supreme Leader. The  truth? That's irrelevant. 

 

 


What in the original post is a lie and what is your proof?

 

Recently declassified evidence directly undercuts the main arguments the FBI used to justify investigating President Trump and his campaign.

 

BY:  John Solomon

 

They’ve come slowly, drip by drip: the reluctant revelations of an FBI bureaucracy. But taken together, the body of evidence now amassed over two years of investigating the investigators explains why Attorney General William Barr last week declared there was never really a basis to probe Donald Trump’s campaign for alleged collusion with Russia.  (proof in hand)

 

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This information came from the "recently declasified Horowitz report and is evidence produced by his investigation.  I get that you don't like it but you can't prove otherwise because these are the facts.  If you want to say IG Horowitz is lying please supply your proof. Anything less is a lie on your part.

 

 

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Dear JimC91 --- I get you...I really do now...you love Trump  with your heart and soul....can't stop praising --supporting this rabble rouser.     Willing to ignore that  Trump affiliation with Russia began in the 1980's with money laundering renting out his condos........Deustch Bank said Russians co-signed loans to Trump he still owes.  Jared... met with Russians in Trump Towers that's a well known fact---- Mexico did not build a WALL a fact..... our TRADE deficit is HIGHER..fact .....meetings with Kim Jong un were unproductive...fact  and Trump committed a treasonous act by siding with Putin..fact  ....did not replace Obamacare but worse healthcare is more expensive.. fact   ..three dozen were indicted in that Mueller "witch hunt". fact   More gun violence cause of Trump's rhetoric.  fact   Trump ignored the CDC & fired the pandemic experts--- Isn't he GREAT ---he says so...and the ones who love him so much they don't care about the country ...only him. 

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The question I keep asking is "why did the Russians want so badly for Trump to win in 2016" and "Why are the Russians so happy with their investment in 2016 that they have doubled down in 2020?"

 

ITYS 

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The Trump Cult LIES and PROPAGANDA never ends.

 

  • "The Mueller Report: The investigation "identified numerous links between the Russian government and the Trump campaign", found that Russia "perceived it would benefit from a Trump presidency" and that the 2016 Trump presidential campaign "expected it would benefit electorally" from Russian hacking efforts
  • The Mueller Report concluded that Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election did occur "in sweeping and systematic fashion" and "violated U.S. criminal law"
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5.) Steele was fired Nov. 1, 2016 for violating his confidential human source agreement by leaking to the news media.

 

6.) Information Steele provided to the government was proven, before the FISA warrants were granted, to be false and inaccurate. Specifically, he told State official Kathleen Kavalec in early October 2016 that he believed Russia was funding its h... The Russians did not have a consulate in Miami, Kavalec reported in her notes.

 

7.) Steele was caught in October 2016 peddling a false internet rumor also being spread by a lawyer for the Democratic National Committee and a liberal reporter. That rumor claimed Trump and Putin might be communicating through mysterious computer pings at a server tied to Russia’s Alfa Bank. The rumor was dismissed by the FBI as false.

 

8.) The FBI falsely declared to the FISA court it had corroborated the evidence in Steele’s dossier used in the search warrant application, including that Carter Page had met with two senior Russians in Moscow in summer 2016. In fact, the Page meetings were never corroborated and a spreadsheet that reviewed every statement in the Steele dossier found most were either inaccurate, uncorroborated or information easily found on the Internet.

 

9.) The FBI interviewed Steele’s primary sub-source in January 2017, who claimed much of the information attributed to him was not accurate, exaggerated or rumor.

 

10.) The FBI possessed statements of innocence from Pagecollected by an undercover informer in August and October 2016, including that Page denied meeting with the two Russians and did not play a role in changing a GOP platform position on Ukraine during the Trump nominating convention. The statements undercut two primary allegations made by the FBI in seeking the FISA warrants.

 

11.) The CIA alerted the FBI that Page was a friendly U.S. asset who had assisted the Agency on Russia matters and was not a stooge for the Russian government. The FBI altered a document to hide this revelation.

 

12.) The FBI possessed exculpatory statements made by Trump campaign adviser George Papadopoulos in which he told an undercover informer he and the Trump campaign were not involved in the Russian hacking of Clinton’s emails and considered such activity to be “illegal.” The FBI originally opened the probe of Trump campaign on suspicion Papadopoulos was somehow involved in the hacking.

 

13.) The FBI concluded in January 2017 that Trump national security adviser Mike Flynn was not being deceptiv... in his interviews with agents and likely suffered from a faulty memory and was not operating as an agent for Russia.

 

 

 

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Here are just two examples.

 

Lieutenant General Michael Flynn, the former director of the Defense Intelligence Agency, who accepted $45,000 in 2015 to take part in a gala in Moscow hosted by RT, the Russian government’s English-language TV channel. Flynn sat next to Vladimir Putin, though both said afterward that they hardly spoke to each other.

 

The next year, Flynn became the senior foreign policy adviser to candidate Trump. On November 17, soon after Trump was elected president, he named Flynn his national security adviser. On December 29, the Obama administration announced new sanctions against Russia and the expulsion of thirty-five suspected Russian spies posing as diplomats in the US, in retaliation for Russian interference in the 2016 American election campaign.

 

That same day, Flynn spoke on the phone to the Russian ambassador in Washington, Sergei Kislyak, more than once. After the calls were discovered, FBI agents confronted Flynn. He lied about what he and Kislyak had discussed, claiming that they had not mentioned the sanctions, even though he had earlier remarked to FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe, who asked him about them, “You know what I said, because you guys were probably listening.”

 

Here's another example from FBI Assistant Director Josh Campbell.

 

Josh Campbell admitted the following in Crossfire Hurricane. Until July 2018, he writes, he resisted “the long-running narrative among current and former intelligence professionals” that the Russians had something on Trump that gave them leverage over the president’s decision-making.

 

His opinion changed, Campbell says, with the “terrifying episode in Helsinki shortly after Mueller had highlighted the malicious efforts of Russia’s intelligence operatives” to influence our 2016 election. Appearing with Putin in Helsinki on July 16, 2018, Trump embraced the Russian president’s denial of any meddling and rejected the detailed evidence that Mueller had presented the previous February in his indictment of thirteen Russians and three companies on charges of interfering in the election. With that performance, Campbell writes,

 

President Trump had exhausted all reasonable explanations for behavior that consistently put the interests of Russia over those of the United States. This was almost certainly a key reason behind his full-scale assault on Mueller and the FBI: he was afraid of what Mueller might find.

 

There are other reasons, but the FBI had no choice but to investigate Trump and why almost everything he did seem to favor Russia.

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13.) The FBI concluded in January 2017 that Trump national security adviser Mike Flynn was not being deceptiv... in his interviews with agents and likely suffered from a faulty memory and was not operating as an agent for Russia.

 

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This is from the new declasified portion of the Horowitz Report.

 

 

 

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Everything that trump does shows favoritism towards putin and russia 

It would seem that if barr had a real case against the FBI, we probably would have heard...then again he and trump are probably trying to make up some stuff...both are good with false accusations!

 

And let's go back to john solomon, if he were in a court of law presenting evidence, how much would be considered factual, or how much would be declared heresay?

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You have to watch the regressives very closely as they LOVE to mislead.  The  FBI never said they had collusion case. They said that the Russians interfered with the 2016 election in order to elect Trump.  The Mueller investigation was supposed to investigate that very issue and proved that it was true in a spectacular manner. He even pointed out that he did not issue indictments against the Trump campaign officials because that was not his charter. 

 

So no, the FBI did not have a collusion case. They had a Russian election interference in favor of Trump case.  I wonder why they did it then and they are DOING IT AGAIN? What could they know about Trump that we should know.?

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Trump Cult members cannot stop with the Steele Dossier myths. There were many legitimate reasons why the FBI launched Crossfire Hurricane, but the Steele Dossier wasn't one of them. This is part of Trump's never ending smear campaign to destroy the independence of the FBI and Justice Department. 

 

Trump's Cult members diligently support this attempt at creating a mini-dictatorship.

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Trump Cult members cannot stop with the Steele Dossier myths. There were many legitimate reasons why the FBI launched Crossfire Hurricane, but the Steele Dossier wasn't one of them.


BY all means please share what you know.  (with backup)

 

What predicated the launch of Crossfire Hurricane?  

 

Here is your opportunity to deal with the "Myth" you keep referring to.

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Here are 13 of the most important revelations that undercut the FBI’s predicate for opening an investigation targeting the Trump campaign in July 2016, for obtaining a year’s worth of FISA warrants to spy on former campaign adviser Carter Page and for seeking a special prosecutor, Robert Mueller, to take over and extend the probe.

 

1.) The FBI possessed information dating to 2015 in Steele’s intelligence (Delta) file warning that he might be the victim of Russian disinformation through his contacts with Vladimir Putin-connected oligarchs. By 2017, the FBI was warned specific false information in Steele's dossier was planted by Russian intelligence, according to the declassified notes that became public from Michael Horowitz’s report.

 

2.) Senior Justice Department official Bruce Ohr warned the FBI in August 2016 that Steele held an extreme bias against Trump (he was “desperate" to defeat Trump) and that his information was likely uncorroborated raw intelligence.

 

3.) Steele’s work on the dossier was funded by Trump’s rival in the election, Hillary Clinton’s campaign, and the Democratic Party, through their opposition research firm, Fusion GPS. Ohr warned the FBI in August 2016 that Steele’s work was connected to the Clinton campaign in some way.

 

4.) Steele told a State Department official in October 2016, 10 days before the FISA warrants were first secured, that he had leaked to the news mediaand had an election day deadline for making public the information he had shared with the FBI as a confidential human source.

 

5.) Steele was fired Nov. 1, 2016 for violating his confidential human source agreement by leaking to the news media.

 

6.) Information Steele provided to the government was proven, before the FISA warrants were granted, to be false and inaccurate. Specifically, he told State official Kathleen Kavalec in early October 2016 that he believed Russia was funding its h... The Russians did not have a consulate in Miami, Kavalec reported in her notes.

 

7.) Steele was caught in October 2016 peddling a false internet rumor also being spread by a lawyer for the Democratic National Committee and a liberal reporter. That rumor claimed Trump and Putin might be communicating through mysterious computer pings at a server tied to Russia’s Alfa Bank. The rumor was dismissed by the FBI as false.

 

8.) The FBI falsely declared to the FISA court it had corroborated the evidence in Steele’s dossier used in the search warrant application, including that Carter Page had met with two senior Russians in Moscow in summer 2016. In fact, the Page meetings were never corroborated and a spreadsheet that reviewed every statement in the Steele dossier found most were either inaccurate, uncorroborated or information easily found on the Internet.

 

9.) The FBI interviewed Steele’s primary sub-source in January 2017, who claimed much of the information attributed to him was not accurate, exaggerated or rumor.

 

10.) The FBI possessed statements of innocence from Pagecollected by an undercover informer in August and October 2016, including that Page denied meeting with the two Russians and did not play a role in changing a GOP platform position on Ukraine during the Trump nominating convention. The statements undercut two primary allegations made by the FBI in seeking the FISA warrants.

 

11.) The CIA alerted the FBI that Page was a friendly U.S. asset who had assisted the Agency on Russia matters and was not a stooge for the Russian government. The FBI altered a document to hide this revelation.

 

12.) The FBI possessed exculpatory statements made by Trump campaign adviser George Papadopoulos in which he told an undercover informer he and the Trump campaign were not involved in the Russian hacking of Clinton’s emails and considered such activity to be “illegal.” The FBI originally opened the probe of Trump campaign on suspicion Papadopoulos was somehow involved in the hacking.

 

13.) The FBI concluded in January 2017 that Trump national security adviser Mike Flynn was not being deceptiv... in his interviews with agents and likely suffered from a faulty memory and was not operating as an agent for Russia.

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Here are 13 of the most important revelations that undercut the FBI’s predicate for opening an investigation targeting the Trump campaign in July 2016, for obtaining a year’s worth of FISA warrants to spy on former campaign adviser Carter Page and for seeking a special prosecutor, Robert Mueller, to take over and extend the probe.

 

1.) The FBI possessed information dating to 2015 in Steele’s intelligence (Delta) file warning that he might be the victim of Russian disinformation through his contacts with Vladimir Putin-connected oligarchs. By 2017, the FBI was warned specific false information in Steele's dossier was planted by Russian intelligence, according to the declassified notes that became public from Michael Horowitz’s report.

 

2.) Senior Justice Department official Bruce Ohr warned the FBI in August 2016 that Steele held an extreme bias against Trump (he was “desperate" to defeat Trump) and that his information was likely uncorroborated raw intelligence.

 

3.) Steele’s work on the dossier was funded by Trump’s rival in the election, Hillary Clinton’s campaign, and the Democratic Party, through their opposition research firm, Fusion GPS. Ohr warned the FBI in August 2016 that Steele’s work was connected to the Clinton campaign in some way.

 

4.) Steele told a State Department official in October 2016, 10 days before the FISA warrants were first secured, that he had leaked to the news mediaand had an election day deadline for making public the information he had shared with the FBI as a confidential human source.

 

5.) Steele was fired Nov. 1, 2016 for violating his confidential human source agreement by leaking to the news media.

 

6.) Information Steele provided to the government was proven, before the FISA warrants were granted, to be false and inaccurate. Specifically, he told State official Kathleen Kavalec in early October 2016 that he believed Russia was funding its h... The Russians did not have a consulate in Miami, Kavalec reported in her notes.

 

7.) Steele was caught in October 2016 peddling a false internet rumor also being spread by a lawyer for the Democratic National Committee and a liberal reporter. That rumor claimed Trump and Putin might be communicating through mysterious computer pings at a server tied to Russia’s Alfa Bank. The rumor was dismissed by the FBI as false.

 

8.) The FBI falsely declared to the FISA court it had corroborated the evidence in Steele’s dossier used in the search warrant application, including that Carter Page had met with two senior Russians in Moscow in summer 2016. In fact, the Page meetings were never corroborated and a spreadsheet that reviewed every statement in the Steele dossier found most were either inaccurate, uncorroborated or information easily found on the Internet.

 

9.) The FBI interviewed Steele’s primary sub-source in January 2017, who claimed much of the information attributed to him was not accurate, exaggerated or rumor.

 

10.) The FBI possessed statements of innocence from Pagecollected by an undercover informer in August and October 2016, including that Page denied meeting with the two Russians and did not play a role in changing a GOP platform position on Ukraine during the Trump nominating convention. The statements undercut two primary allegations made by the FBI in seeking the FISA warrants.

 

11.) The CIA alerted the FBI that Page was a friendly U.S. asset who had assisted the Agency on Russia matters and was not a stooge for the Russian government. The FBI altered a document to hide this revelation.

 

12.) The FBI possessed exculpatory statements made by Trump campaign adviser George Papadopoulos in which he told an undercover informer he and the Trump campaign were not involved in the Russian hacking of Clinton’s emails and considered such activity to be “illegal.” The FBI originally opened the probe of Trump campaign on suspicion Papadopoulos was somehow involved in the hacking.

 

13.) The FBI concluded in January 2017 that Trump national security adviser Mike Flynn was not being deceptiv... in his interviews with agents and likely suffered from a faulty memory and was not operating as an agent for Russia.


Here is the  main thing you never talk about. Nothing in the Steele Report has been proven not true. Even Trumps golden shower in fact there are tapes of that which Trump ordered Michael Cohen to make sure did not get back to the US. Michael did that per Michael, and he was backed up by the Russian (Putin's buddy) who has the tapes. Lets get the tapes back and play them every afternoon around 5PM.

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@jimc91 wrote:

Here are 13 of the most important revelations that undercut the FBI’s predicate for opening an investigation targeting the Trump campaign in July 2016, for obtaining a year’s worth of FISA warrants to spy on former campaign adviser Carter Page and for seeking a special prosecutor, Robert Mueller, to take over and extend the probe.

 

1.) The FBI possessed information dating to 2015 in Steele’s intelligence (Delta) file warning that he might be the victim of Russian disinformation through his contacts with Vladimir Putin-connected oligarchs. By 2017, the FBI was warned specific false information in Steele's dossier was planted by Russian intelligence, according to the declassified notes that became public from Michael Horowitz’s report.

 

2.) Senior Justice Department official Bruce Ohr warned the FBI in August 2016 that Steele held an extreme bias against Trump (he was “desperate" to defeat Trump) and that his information was likely uncorroborated raw intelligence.

 

3.) Steele’s work on the dossier was funded by Trump’s rival in the election, Hillary Clinton’s campaign, and the Democratic Party, through their opposition research firm, Fusion GPS. Ohr warned the FBI in August 2016 that Steele’s work was connected to the Clinton campaign in some way.

 

4.) Steele told a State Department official in October 2016, 10 days before the FISA warrants were first secured, that he had leaked to the news mediaand had an election day deadline for making public the information he had shared with the FBI as a confidential human source.

 

5.) Steele was fired Nov. 1, 2016 for violating his confidential human source agreement by leaking to the news media.

 

6.) Information Steele provided to the government was proven, before the FISA warrants were granted, to be false and inaccurate. Specifically, he told State official Kathleen Kavalec in early October 2016 that he believed Russia was funding its h... The Russians did not have a consulate in Miami, Kavalec reported in her notes.

 

7.) Steele was caught in October 2016 peddling a false internet rumor also being spread by a lawyer for the Democratic National Committee and a liberal reporter. That rumor claimed Trump and Putin might be communicating through mysterious computer pings at a server tied to Russia’s Alfa Bank. The rumor was dismissed by the FBI as false.

 

8.) The FBI falsely declared to the FISA court it had corroborated the evidence in Steele’s dossier used in the search warrant application, including that Carter Page had met with two senior Russians in Moscow in summer 2016. In fact, the Page meetings were never corroborated and a spreadsheet that reviewed every statement in the Steele dossier found most were either inaccurate, uncorroborated or information easily found on the Internet.

 

9.) The FBI interviewed Steele’s primary sub-source in January 2017, who claimed much of the information attributed to him was not accurate, exaggerated or rumor.

 

10.) The FBI possessed statements of innocence from Pagecollected by an undercover informer in August and October 2016, including that Page denied meeting with the two Russians and did not play a role in changing a GOP platform position on Ukraine during the Trump nominating convention. The statements undercut two primary allegations made by the FBI in seeking the FISA warrants.

 

11.) The CIA alerted the FBI that Page was a friendly U.S. asset who had assisted the Agency on Russia matters and was not a stooge for the Russian government. The FBI altered a document to hide this revelation.

 

12.) The FBI possessed exculpatory statements made by Trump campaign adviser George Papadopoulos in which he told an undercover informer he and the Trump campaign were not involved in the Russian hacking of Clinton’s emails and considered such activity to be “illegal.” The FBI originally opened the probe of Trump campaign on suspicion Papadopoulos was somehow involved in the hacking.

 

13.) The FBI concluded in January 2017 that Trump national security adviser Mike Flynn was not being deceptiv... in his interviews with agents and likely suffered from a faulty memory and was not operating as an agent for Russia.


Here is the  main thing you never talk about. Nothing in the Steele Report has been proven not true. 


Recently declassified evidence directly undercuts the main arguments the FBI used to justify investigating President Trump and his campaign.

 

BY:  John Solomon

 

They’ve come slowly, drip by drip: the reluctant revelations of an FBI bureaucracy. But taken together, the body of evidence now amassed over two years of investigating the investigators explains why Attorney General William Barr last week declared there was never really a basis to probe Donald Trump’s campaign for alleged collusion with Russia.  (proof in hand)

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@jimc91 wrote:

Here are 13 of the most important revelations that undercut the FBI’s predicate for opening an investigation targeting the Trump campaign in July 2016, for obtaining a year’s worth of FISA warrants to spy on former campaign adviser Carter Page and for seeking a special prosecutor, Robert Mueller, to take over and extend the probe.

 

1.) The FBI possessed information dating to 2015 in Steele’s intelligence (Delta) file warning that he might be the victim of Russian disinformation through his contacts with Vladimir Putin-connected oligarchs. By 2017, the FBI was warned specific false information in Steele's dossier was planted by Russian intelligence, according to the declassified notes that became public from Michael Horowitz’s report.

 

2.) Senior Justice Department official Bruce Ohr warned the FBI in August 2016 that Steele held an extreme bias against Trump (he was “desperate" to defeat Trump) and that his information was likely uncorroborated raw intelligence.

 

3.) Steele’s work on the dossier was funded by Trump’s rival in the election, Hillary Clinton’s campaign, and the Democratic Party, through their opposition research firm, Fusion GPS. Ohr warned the FBI in August 2016 that Steele’s work was connected to the Clinton campaign in some way.

 

4.) Steele told a State Department official in October 2016, 10 days before the FISA warrants were first secured, that he had leaked to the news mediaand had an election day deadline for making public the information he had shared with the FBI as a confidential human source.

 

5.) Steele was fired Nov. 1, 2016 for violating his confidential human source agreement by leaking to the news media.

 

6.) Information Steele provided to the government was proven, before the FISA warrants were granted, to be false and inaccurate. Specifically, he told State official Kathleen Kavalec in early October 2016 that he believed Russia was funding its h... The Russians did not have a consulate in Miami, Kavalec reported in her notes.

 

7.) Steele was caught in October 2016 peddling a false internet rumor also being spread by a lawyer for the Democratic National Committee and a liberal reporter. That rumor claimed Trump and Putin might be communicating through mysterious computer pings at a server tied to Russia’s Alfa Bank. The rumor was dismissed by the FBI as false.

 

8.) The FBI falsely declared to the FISA court it had corroborated the evidence in Steele’s dossier used in the search warrant application, including that Carter Page had met with two senior Russians in Moscow in summer 2016. In fact, the Page meetings were never corroborated and a spreadsheet that reviewed every statement in the Steele dossier found most were either inaccurate, uncorroborated or information easily found on the Internet.

 

9.) The FBI interviewed Steele’s primary sub-source in January 2017, who claimed much of the information attributed to him was not accurate, exaggerated or rumor.

 

10.) The FBI possessed statements of innocence from Pagecollected by an undercover informer in August and October 2016, including that Page denied meeting with the two Russians and did not play a role in changing a GOP platform position on Ukraine during the Trump nominating convention. The statements undercut two primary allegations made by the FBI in seeking the FISA warrants.

 

11.) The CIA alerted the FBI that Page was a friendly U.S. asset who had assisted the Agency on Russia matters and was not a stooge for the Russian government. The FBI altered a document to hide this revelation.

 

12.) The FBI possessed exculpatory statements made by Trump campaign adviser George Papadopoulos in which he told an undercover informer he and the Trump campaign were not involved in the Russian hacking of Clinton’s emails and considered such activity to be “illegal.” The FBI originally opened the probe of Trump campaign on suspicion Papadopoulos was somehow involved in the hacking.

 

13.) The FBI concluded in January 2017 that Trump national security adviser Mike Flynn was not being deceptiv... in his interviews with agents and likely suffered from a faulty memory and was not operating as an agent for Russia.


Here is the  main thing you never talk about. Nothing in the Steele Report has been proven not true. 


Recently declassified evidence directly undercuts the main arguments the FBI used to justify investigating President Trump and his campaign.

 

BY:  John Solomon

 

They’ve come slowly, drip by drip: the reluctant revelations of an FBI bureaucracy. But taken together, the body of evidence now amassed over two years of investigating the investigators explains why Attorney General William Barr last week declared there was never really a basis to probe Donald Trump’s campaign for alleged collusion with Russia.  (proof in hand)


This is the best. Something from John Solomon.  You provided nothing. I will say again to you. Nothing in the Steele Report has been proven untrue and that is the main thing. Even the Trump shower tapes. So from your answer I assume you agree with me. All the nonsense coming from JS is for Trump fantasy land not the real world.

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@jimc91 wrote: Attorney General William Barr last week declared there was never really a basis to probe Donald Trump’s campaign for alleged collusion with Russia.  (proof in hand)

William Barr has been anything but a neutral observer as A.G. Regardless, the question of collusion depends on the Russians being stupid enough to believe Trump and the people he hired could be trusted to act intelligently  and keep secrets.  Neither has been the case in three years.  Why would you collude with a moron?  You simply get him appointed as the leader of your enemy (not even the Russians could actually get Trump elected by Americans) and turn him loose. 

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Of course barr would declare that there is no reason to investigate trump and russian involvement, because he would have to investigate mcconnell and russian involvement, and then he would have to investigate himself...yes, the barr and russian involvement. barr is probably in deep with russia... he most likely asked putin to investigate our intelligence agencies...that would be a new low...but he's a trumper, what else would we expect?

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I carefully read the IG report. Listen to what Horowtiz said. 

 

"FBI officials involved in opening the investigation had reason to believe that Russia may have been connected to the Wikileaks disclosures that occurred earlier in July 2016, and were aware of information regarding Russia's efforts to interfere with the 2016 U.S. elections. These officials, though, did not become  aware of Steele's election reporting until weeks later and we therefore determined that Steele's reports played no role in the Crossfire Hurricane opening.

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One of the primary reasons for the investigation was Trump's campaign of attacks against the FBI, which they legitimately felt posed a threat to public safety.

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@jimc91 wrote:
Recently declassified evidence directly undercuts the main arguments the FBI used to justify investigating President Trump and his campaign.

 

BY:  John Solomon

 

They’ve come slowly, drip by drip: the reluctant revelations of an FBI bureaucracy. But taken together, the body of evidence now amassed over two years of investigating the investigators explains why Attorney General William Barr last week declared there was never really a basis to probe Donald Trump’s campaign for alleged collusion with Russia.

 

"I think the president has every right to be frustrated, because I think what happened to him was one of the greatest travesties in American history," Barr told Fox News’ Laura Ingraham.

 

"Without any basis they started this investigation of his campaign, and even more concerning, actually is what happened after the campaign, a whole pattern of events while he was president. to sabotage the presidency, and I think that – or at least have the effect of sabotaging the presidency,” the attorney general said.

 

Two years ago, those words coming from the top law enforcement official in the land would have been hard to imagine, or to support with public evidence.

 

But today, after countless open record lawsuits, congressional investigations, sworn depositions and declassifications, there is compelling evidence that the FBI did not have justification to sustain its nearly three year-long, now debunked, Russia collusion probe or to support Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act warrants targeting the Trump campaign.

 

Furthermore, the evidence shows, the false narrative was sustained by repeated leaks of information to the news media that was blatantly false, debunked in many instances by evidence sitting in the FBI's own files.

 

The latest revelations came Friday, when previously classified footnotes from the Justice Department inspector general were unmasked and showed the FBI had stunning reason to distrust Christopher Steele’s dossier when the former British spy first pitched it in July 2016.

 

Here are 13 of the most important revelations that undercut the FBI’s predicate for opening an investigation targeting the Trump campaign in July 2016, for obtaining a year’s worth of FISA warrants to spy on former campaign adviser Carter Page and for seeking a special prosecutor, Robert Mueller, to take over and extend the probe.

 

1.) The FBI possessed information dating to 2015 in Steele’s intelligence (Delta) file warning that he might be the victim of Russian disinformation through his contacts with Vladimir Putin-connected oligarchs. By 2017, the FBI was warned specific false information in Steele's dossier was planted by Russian intelligence, according to the declassified notes that became public from Michael Horowitz’s report.

 

2.) Senior Justice Department official Bruce Ohr warned the FBI in August 2016 that Steele held an extreme bias against Trump (he was “desperate" to defeat Trump) and that his information was likely uncorroborated raw intelligence.

 

3.) Steele’s work on the dossier was funded by Trump’s rival in the election, Hillary Clinton’s campaign, and the Democratic Party, through their opposition research firm, Fusion GPS. Ohr warned the FBI in August 2016 that Steele’s work was connected to the Clinton campaign in some way.

 

4.) Steele told a State Department official in October 2016, 10 days before the FISA warrants were first secured, that he had leaked to the news media and had an election day deadline for making public the information he had shared with the FBI as a confidential human source.

 

5.) Steele was fired Nov. 1, 2016 for violating his confidential human source agreement by leaking to the news media.

 

6.) Information Steele provided to the government was proven, before the FISA warrants were granted, to be false and inaccurate. Specifically, he told State official Kathleen Kavalec in early October 2016 that he believed Russia was funding its h... The Russians did not have a consulate in Miami, Kavalec reported in her notes.

 

7.) Steele was caught in October 2016 peddling a false internet rumor also being spread by a lawyer for the Democratic National Committee and a liberal reporter. That rumor claimed Trump and Putin might be communicating through mysterious computer pings at a server tied to Russia’s Alfa Bank. The rumor was dismissed by the FBI as false.

 

8.) The FBI falsely declared to the FISA court it had corroborated the evidence in Steele’s dossier used in the search warrant application, including that Carter Page had met with two senior Russians in Moscow in summer 2016. In fact, the Page meetings were never corroborated and a spreadsheet that reviewed every statement in the Steele dossier found most were either inaccurate, uncorroborated or information easily found on the Internet.

 

9.) The FBI interviewed Steele’s primary sub-source in January 2017, who claimed much of the information attributed to him was not accurate, exaggerated or rumor.

 

10.) The FBI possessed statements of innocence from Pagecollected by an undercover informer in August and October 2016, including that Page denied meeting with the two Russians and did not play a role in changing a GOP platform position on Ukraine during the Trump nominating convention. The statements undercut two primary allegations made by the FBI in seeking the FISA warrants.

 

11.) The CIA alerted the FBI that Page was a friendly U.S. asset who had assisted the Agency on Russia matters and was not a stooge for the Russian government. The FBI altered a document to hide this revelation.

 

12.) The FBI possessed exculpatory statements made by Trump campaign adviser George Papadopoulos in which he told an undercover informer he and the Trump campaign were not involved in the Russian hacking of Clinton’s emails and considered such activity to be “illegal.” The FBI originally opened the probe of Trump campaign on suspicion Papadopoulos was somehow involved in the hacking.

 

13.) The FBI concluded in January 2017 that Trump national security adviser Mike Flynn was not being deceptiv... in his interviews with agents and likely suffered from a faulty memory and was not operating as an agent for Russia.

 

There are many more revelations that expose flaws, lies and misconduct in the creation of a false Russia collusion narrative. But these 13 alone help explain why Barr made such a sweeping statement last week.

 

They also likely explain a statement made years earlier in text messages between two key FBI employees, when lead Russia case Agent Peter Strzok texted his lawyer and paramour Lisa Page in May 2017 that there was “there's no big there there” in the Russia probe.

 

 


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As documented previously, the FBI investigation started about 7 or 8 weeks before they even saw the Steele Dossier. In Trump World, it doesn't matter how many times this fact is documented, they don't care about facts or the truth. 

 

The FBI Investigation started for a large number of reasons, none of which had anything to do with the Steele Dossier.

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As documented previously, the FBI investigation started about 7 or 8 weeks before they even saw the Steele Dossier. In Trump World, it doesn't matter how many times this fact is documented, they don't care about facts or the truth. 

 

The FBI Investigation started for a large number of reasons, none of which had anything to do with the Steele Dossier.


Consider reading the many parts of the Horowitz report that have now been declassified, you seem to be operating on very old information that is only part of the story.  Many of the actual facts have now been made public, but it requires you read it with an open mind instead of a filter biased by TDS.

 

The work done here by John Solomon makes the actual findings of the Horowitz public.  Like it or not the facts are the facts.  

 

 

 

 

 

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The latest revelations came Friday, when previously classified footnotes from the Justice Department inspector general were unmasked and showed the FBI had stunning reason to distrust Christopher Steele’s dossier when the former British spy first pitched it in July 2016.

 

 

 

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If you want to read someting totally absurd, read the next paragraph.

 

"Without any basis they started this investigation of his campaign, and even more concerning, actually is what happened after the campaign, a whole pattern of events while he was president. to sabotage the presidency, and I think that – or at least have the effect of sabotaging the presidency,” the attorney general said.

 

Without any basis? If this wasn't so serious, I would be LOL. There was an entire array of reasons why the FBI started the investigation. Trump and the convicted felons in his campaIgn, repeatedly cooperated with the Russians and/or sought their assistance. And then, Trump's own words were the final breaking point. 

 

But always remember, in a cult, the Supreme Leader is never wrong and his cult members will search far and wide to ensure he is never held accountable for his horrible behavior. That's what this thread is about.

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CriticalThinking:   "Without any basis they started this investigation of his campaign, and even more concerning, actually is what happened after the campaign, a whole pattern of events while he was president. to sabotage the presidency, and I think that – or at least have the effect of sabotaging the presidency,” the attorney general said.

 

 

Bill Barr is making sure he's remembered by history as an unhinged fanatic.

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