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@KidBoy2 wrote:
The correct headline is...


Tax Day 2019 is the perfect day to make the case for increasing taxes on the rich
Today is the last day to file your 2018 taxes. Here's why millionaires and billionaires like Warren Buffet often pay less than the middle class.


Mick states as a fact "Tax Day Sad Reminder Trump Paid No Taxes ".

Mick would you be so kind as to back that up if you can? If not it's just another made up thread for the purpose of???

Honestly ............. can you not actually research anything for yourself?  Oh, I forgot, you rely of FOX Fake News Network to lie to you.


Since your client has claimed knowledge generally not available to the public (what another paid or did not pay), do you have any substantiate on the topic or will you rest on the childish "oh I forgot" and the usual go-to response - something about Fox.

 

Speaking of researching anything - may I ask, how did you research the President's tax information?


I have no "client". Since my reply was to KidBoy2, is KidBoy2 now your "client"?

 

So in other words you haven't seen everything trump has said himself in reference to his taxes and what has been said publicly about them on national networks? Or have you seen all that he has said but simply deny it and(sic) it's implications? The one(sic) single deduction he admittedly used is enough to know that he paid no taxes for multiple years.


So in other words, how do you know "Trump paid no taxes"?? The topic refers to 2018 since it talks about this being Tax day. 


You were given information about a deduction he could spread out over years, including 2018, bringing his taxes to zero. Ignoring things will make a person either remain ignorant or at least appear to be.

 

Thank you for showing me two spelling errors, I will make sure to check yours now. By the way, your using "do you have any substantiate on the topic" in a sentence is a grammatical error. 


Just illustrating where it goes when you start the (sic) game.

 

Now, forgetting about what could have been - the claim was he paid no taxes. Who has seen his tax forms??

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@rk9152 wrote:

@ChasKy53 wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

@ChasKy53 wrote:

@KidBoy2 wrote:
The correct headline is...


Tax Day 2019 is the perfect day to make the case for increasing taxes on the rich
Today is the last day to file your 2018 taxes. Here's why millionaires and billionaires like Warren Buffet often pay less than the middle class.


Mick states as a fact "Tax Day Sad Reminder Trump Paid No Taxes ".

Mick would you be so kind as to back that up if you can? If not it's just another made up thread for the purpose of???

Honestly ............. can you not actually research anything for yourself?  Oh, I forgot, you rely of FOX Fake News Network to lie to you.


Since your client has claimed knowledge generally not available to the public (what another paid or did not pay), do you have any substantiate on the topic or will you rest on the childish "oh I forgot" and the usual go-to response - something about Fox.

 

Speaking of researching anything - may I ask, how did you research the President's tax information?


I have no "client". Since my reply was to KidBoy2, is KidBoy2 now your "client"?

 

So in other words you haven't seen everything trump has said himself in reference to his taxes and what has been said publicly about them on national networks? Or have you seen all that he has said but simply deny it and(sic) it's implications? The one(sic) single deduction he admittedly used is enough to know that he paid no taxes for multiple years.


So in other words, how do you know "Trump paid no taxes"?? The topic refers to 2018 since it talks about this being Tax day. 


You were given information about a deduction he could spread out over years, including 2018, bringing his taxes to zero. Ignoring things will make a person either remain ignorant or at least appear to be.

 

Thank you for showing me two spelling errors, I will make sure to check yours now. By the way, your using "do you have any substantiate on the topic" in a sentence is a grammatical error. 


"The only thing man learns from history is man learns nothing from history"
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@Olderscout66 wrote:

Seems the entire Republican Party has slipped thru the looking glass and joined the Red Queen.

 

"Alice laughed: "There's no use trying," she said; "one can't believe impossible things." "I daresay you haven't had much practice," said the Queen. "When I was younger, I always did it for half an hour a day. Why, sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast."

 

Republicans have been practicing night and day since they elected Reagan, and most can and do believe at least NINE impossible things before breakfast. One such impossible thing is Obamacare is not a huge improvement on what Republicans have been able to come up with, a more impossible thing is the notion that any such Republican plan for health insurance EXISTS.


And now Alice in Wonderland and, of course, the ever popular Reagan.

 

And still nothing to show that any poster has seen the President's tax return.

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For some, knowledge comes only from Fox, and since Fox didn't say anything about the ToadPOTUS tax returns, those folks assume there's noting to be said.

 

Others take available information, examine other sources like the tax code, and form conclusions that resemble the evidence that convicts about 90% of felons in this country: CIRCUMSTANTIAL evidence.

First item is lil donny managed to mismanage a CASINO so horrifically he LOST a BILLION DOLLARS OF OTHER PEOPLE'S MONEY! That may go downas the WORST performance by Casino management in recorded history.

Then we look at the tax code, and see that someone in donny's position in the Casino Management can claim that as a "personal" loss, spread over a number of years.

 

Finally, we can consider the number of times donny had to default on his loans, and the evidence is clear: ToadPOTUS paid no taxes for YEARS by using the money he LOST for his investors, partners and lenders to offset all the other income he may have claimed.

 

This will all be revealed when the returns are released of leaked by some patriot, but the REAL reason donny is terrified to have his tax returns made public is they will show he is in hock for over $650MILLION to RUSSIA! and he has no chance of being able to pay them back with cash, so how do you suppose he's "working off his debt?

 

Can you say TREASON?


Again the nonsense about Fox which has nothing to do with the topic. And the childish name calling of Toad POTUS and donny. The usual mind reading claims about the President being terrified. The wild claims about Russia, and some long story about casinos....

 

But still no way to show that any poster has seen the President's tax return

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Seems the entire Republican Party has slipped thru the looking glass and joined the Red Queen.

 

"Alice laughed: "There's no use trying," she said; "one can't believe impossible things." "I daresay you haven't had much practice," said the Queen. "When I was younger, I always did it for half an hour a day. Why, sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast."

 

Republicans have been practicing night and day since they elected Reagan, and most can and do believe at least NINE impossible things before breakfast. One such impossible thing is Obamacare is not a huge improvement on what Republicans have been able to come up with, a more impossible thing is the notion that any such Republican plan for health insurance EXISTS.

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rk asked Mick..

What has your colorful post and pretty chart to do with the President paying no taxes????

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Nothing! The headline of this thread is a lie.
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@rk9152 wrote:

@ChasKy53 wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

@ChasKy53 wrote:

@KidBoy2 wrote:
The correct headline is...


Tax Day 2019 is the perfect day to make the case for increasing taxes on the rich
Today is the last day to file your 2018 taxes. Here's why millionaires and billionaires like Warren Buffet often pay less than the middle class.


Mick states as a fact "Tax Day Sad Reminder Trump Paid No Taxes ".

Mick would you be so kind as to back that up if you can? If not it's just another made up thread for the purpose of???

Honestly ............. can you not actually research anything for yourself?  Oh, I forgot, you rely of FOX Fake News Network to lie to you.


Since your client has claimed knowledge generally not available to the public (what another paid or did not pay), do you have any substantiate on the topic or will you rest on the childish "oh I forgot" and the usual go-to response - something about Fox.

 

Speaking of researching anything - may I ask, how did you research the President's tax information?


I have no "client". Since my reply was to KidBoy2, is KidBoy2 now your "client"?

 

So in other words you haven't seen everything trump has said himself in reference to his taxes and what has been said publicly about them on national networks? Or have you seen all that he has said but simply deny it ans(sic) it's implications? The on(sic) single deduction he admittedly used is enough to know that he paid no taxes for multiple years.


So in other words, how do you know "Trump paid no taxes"?? The topic refers to 2018 since it talks about this being Tax day. 


For some, knowledge comes only from Fox, and since Fox didn't say anything about the ToadPOTUS tax returns, those folks assume there's noting to be said.

 

Others take available information, examine other sources like the tax code, and form conclusions that resemble the evidence that convicts about 90% of felons in this country: CIRCUMSTANTIAL evidence.

First item is lil donny managed to mismanage a CASINO so horrifically he LOST a BILLION DOLLARS OF OTHER PEOPLE'S MONEY! That may go downas the WORST performance by Casino management in recorded history.

Then we look at the tax code, and see that someone in donny's position in the Casino Management can claim that as a "personal" loss, spread over a number of years.

 

Finally, we can consider the number of times donny had to default on his loans, and the evidence is clear: ToadPOTUS paid no taxes for YEARS by using the money he LOST for his investors, partners and lenders to offset all the other income he may have claimed.

 

This will all be revealed when the returns are released of leaked by some patriot, but the REAL reason donny is terrified to have his tax returns made public is they will show he is in hock for over $650MILLION to RUSSIA! and he has no chance of being able to pay them back with cash, so how do you suppose he's "working off his debt?

 

Can you say TREASON?

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@Olderscout66 wrote:

@KidBoy2 wrote:
JANMB...from the link...


"Obama had the White House and the Democrats controlled both the House and the Senate for two years in 2009 and 2010, but they did NOTHING to reform the tax code or to shore up Social Security. Obamacare was two little, too late — when what we really needed was something similar to a "single-payer" healthcare system. A new study has put a price tag on how much more the United States pays in health care costs because it has chosen not to adopt a single-payer system: $375 billion annually."

It's interesting that the party that continues to cry about income inequality did noting about it when they were in control.



The Democrats gave 34 MILLION Americans Health affordable Insurance

 

No they didn't. They tried to take away the private insurance that many people had and liked so as to push a scheme to have some people get the bill for the government provided insurance of others. 

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@Olderscout66 wrote:

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Tax Day 2019 is the perfect day to make the case for increasing taxes on the rich

 

Today is the last day to file your 2018 taxes. Here's why millionaires and billionaires like Warren Buffet often pay less than the middle class.

 

It’s tax day in America — the day when millions of people across the country finally stop procrastinating and find out how much money the federal government owes them. Or worse, how much they owe the federal government. This year’s deadline has been met with a great deal of anxiety due to President Donald Trump’s tax cuts, which have decreased the average refund for filers. Indeed, according to the IRS, tax refunds are down $6 billion compared to 2018.

 

Adding insult to injury is the fact that the people who benefitted the most from Trump’s Tax Cuts and Jobs Act of 2017 are the people who don’t need an extra boost.

 

While enraging, this outcome is really just part of a broader truth: The top 0.1 percent of Americans own almost as much as the bottom 90 percent combined, and the gap between these groups is widening with each passing day. Virtually all of the benefits of our growing economy have gone to those at the top, while most American families have experienced stagnating wages and rising costs of living.

 

The rich continue to get richer, but for most Americans, things aren’t any better than they were 30 years ago.

 

These levels of inequality are dangerous and destabilizing — it’s no coincidence that the last time wealth in America was so concentrated was immediately before the Great Depression.

 

Luckily, there’s a simple solution, one that the overwhelming majority of Americans already support.

 

Tax the rich.

 

To be clear, all we propose is make sure that the wealthiest in our country pay their fair share — which does not happen now and is one of the primary reasons why wealth inequality has continued to deepen. Think of the tax code as a fundamental building block of our economy, one of the few that the federal government has direct control over. By raising taxes on the wealthiest Americans (including on one of the authors of this op-ed) we can start to reverse decades of growing inequality and reshape our economy into one that works for everyone, not just a wealthy few.

 

Source - https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/tax-day-perfect-day-make-case-increasing-taxes-rich-ncna994591

 

 


No civilization in history has survived by taxing rich and poor alike, and yet the GOPerLords continue to push for a "fair flat-tax" as if such a thing might exist.

 

All the maoning and growning about RAISING taxes comes from the parasites at the top. The US did very nicely when over half the population was exempted from paying ANY Federal Income tax, it worked to finance the Civil War, WWI and WWII and was keeping our National Debt "insignificant" until Reagan decided to exempt the rich from paying and shifting the burden to the Middle Class.

 

Please do not start the childish rant about how many dollars the rich contribute - that amount is the LOWEST portion of their total income it has ever been while the share of income contributed by the bottom 90% is the HIGHEST.

 

NOTHING IS A BURDEN UNTIL YOU GIVE SOMETHING UP TO BEAR IT.

 


Right - HISTORY

 

Here are the Economic Results of the USA's Capitalistic History

 

1. 1920 - 1930  - Wall Street Crash

 

America’s 1% hasn’t controlled this much wealth since before the Great Depression

 

Gilded Age 2.0: U.S. Income Inequality Increases to Pre-Great Depression Levels

 

2. 2006 - 2010 -Keeping Up With The Jones's

 

Yet, for all the efforts to eliminate the causes of the crisis on Wall Street, one of the root causes of the financial crisis remains unresolved — namely, income inequality. In 2010, a report by the Democrat-controlled joint economic committee suggested that income inequality, which led middle income households to take on unthinkable levels of debt, may have been “part of the root cause of the Great Recession.”

 

3.Today

 

The top 0.1 percent of Americans own almost as much as the bottom 90 percent combined

 

This theory of income inequality as one of the recession’s key causes was recently advanced by economists John McCombie and Marta Spreafico, of the universities of Cambridge and Milan, respectively.

 

The logic goes, as American incomes began to stagnate in the 1970s — due to an emergent trend of globalism and automation that made low-skill labor competitive on an international scale — members of the once-prosperous American middle class took on unmanageable debt in order to maintain their financial comfort.

 

Meanwhile, the blooming of the financial sector spurred rapid growth at the upper end of the income distribution.

 

A recent chart made by inequality researchers Thomas Piketty, Emmanuel Saez, and Gabriel Zucman illustrates this rising inequality with striking clarity. The graph notes the change in income for every income percentile, every year, from 1980 to 2014.

 

In 1980, Americans within the 50th percentile of the income distribution enjoyed the highest levels of average annual income growth, averaging between 20 and 30 percent after over a decade. The average rates of the highest earners were less than 1.5 percent per year.

 

In 2014, after four decades of income stagnation for the middle class and unprecedented growth for the top 10 percent, the average annual income growth rate for the bottom 50 percent fell to a range between 0 and 1 percent; the highest income earners took in a rate of more than 6 percent.

 

 

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Source - http://harvardpolitics.com/columns-old/after-the-fall-income-inequality-and-the-great-recession/

 

http://gabriel-zucman.eu/usdina/

 

 

 


What has your colorful post and pretty chart to do with the President paying no taxes????

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@ChasKy53 wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

@ChasKy53 wrote:

@KidBoy2 wrote:
The correct headline is...


Tax Day 2019 is the perfect day to make the case for increasing taxes on the rich
Today is the last day to file your 2018 taxes. Here's why millionaires and billionaires like Warren Buffet often pay less than the middle class.


Mick states as a fact "Tax Day Sad Reminder Trump Paid No Taxes ".

Mick would you be so kind as to back that up if you can? If not it's just another made up thread for the purpose of???

Honestly ............. can you not actually research anything for yourself?  Oh, I forgot, you rely of FOX Fake News Network to lie to you.


Since your client has claimed knowledge generally not available to the public (what another paid or did not pay), do you have any substantiate on the topic or will you rest on the childish "oh I forgot" and the usual go-to response - something about Fox.

 

Speaking of researching anything - may I ask, how did you research the President's tax information?


I have no "client". Since my reply was to KidBoy2, is KidBoy2 now your "client"?

 

So in other words you haven't seen everything trump has said himself in reference to his taxes and what has been said publicly about them on national networks? Or have you seen all that he has said but simply deny it ans(sic) it's implications? The on(sic) single deduction he admittedly used is enough to know that he paid no taxes for multiple years.


So in other words, how do you know "Trump paid no taxes"?? The topic refers to 2018 since it talks about this being Tax day. 

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