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I'm still not sure what "party" should have to do with anything?

 

How about voting person (not party)?

 

How about recognizing 2016 should have been about spoiled rich racist sexist who is now our president (so embarrassing) but conned some...

 

How about next time, we look at their character and beliefs?

 

#VegasStrong

 


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Perhaps we should consider these men in our rheutoric and dial it down; perhaps that will draw them back to reality?

 

I have tried to meet Republicans half way for forty years, we ended up with Trump.

 

I'm not doing that anymore.

 

New Deal Democrats or left of that.

 

I'm done with Neo-Liberalism.

 

 

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So, unless something drastically changes, when the next election comes around, we will vote as we did the last time

 

I can't speak for anyone else, but I plan on pushing left,  I'll vote Democrat regardless, but  I like Warren, Sanders, or Yang.

 

My adult child is leaning toward Sanders.

 

Definitely NOT Trump, or Republican.

 

One sister, her husband, and adult children are probably all Sanders, definitely not Trump.

 

Another sister and her family is probably Warren, but definitely not Trump.

 

Another sister did vote Trump last time around, but I don't know what she is doing this time. 

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Your post is so appreciated!

 

Although I don't have sons, I have sons-in-law and young men at work I consider adopted sons (and they feel the same).

 

What I noted during 2016 was caucasian men were feeling certain displeasure with current events and somewhat reverting to pre-American civil war mindset, and so felt the only option was what happened.

 

Based on our conversations, they are now backed into a corner and WILL NOT give up their stand.

 

Perhaps we should consider these men in our rheutoric and dial it down; perhaps that will draw them back to reality?

 

Again, thank you for this account of your experience which imo sheds light...

 

#VegasStrong

 


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Trump is doing what he said he would do. He is grabbing them by the PXXXsy. He is running the government like he has run his businesses (bankruptcy, corruption, incompetence). 

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@TracyofCotuit wrote:

I had a chat with one of my adult children yesterday, who supports Trump. He agrees that Trump's rhetoric is horrible,

 

So why vote for him?  Another Republican can't do what trump is doing, but can show respect and unite the country?

 

Thanks for sharing your experience.


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I had a chat with one of my adult children yesterday, who supports Trump. He agrees that Trump's rhetoric is horrible, but he feels that Trump is doing what he said he would do when he ran for president the last time, and he has no issues with him. He plans on voting for him again.

 

My son is conservative, and finds me to be a far left liberal, which was a revelation to me as I consider myself to be a moderate liberal. No matter.

We both agree that we don't care for socialism, but the difference being he sees us headed in that direction, and I don't. 

After talking for over an hour, I feel we both had a better idea of what each is looking for in a presidential candidate, but neither of us were swayed by the others opinion. 

 

IMO that's where we are as a country right now.  When I read entries in this forum I notice that we most often stick to our original beliefs and arguments regarding this president and the republican party.  So, unless something drastically changes, when the next election comes around, we will vote as we did the last time.

 

 

 

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