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    The workers in Indiana are admitting that they were played for suckers.....why won't donald supporters here admit the same     Are they in so deep that they will lie just like the guy they voted for?

     http://www.thedailybeast.com/carrier-sends-jobs-to-mexico-workers-say-trump-misled-them

 

     Or will they remain in the deep state of denial?     

 

      Just by the observation that they refuse to reply on this thread may be their answer:   yes we were duped, but we will never admit it.  

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The only Trump supporters who will believe this are the ones getting laid off.  

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@Roxanna35 wrote:

Rejoice,  rejoice.  this is the time to rejoice.  and remember my words.
"The more harm that they do, and the sooner that they do it. the sooner that they will leave."


Actually, I remember your rejoicing when trump claimed he brought back/saved all these jobs.  Several said it was a lie....you believed trump and hailed him as a hero to middle America.  What changed?


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umbarch--Yes, it sounds like a plan.  We must all remain vigilant and continue to let people know how destructive the Republican party is for America.  I really feel that our democracy is at risk.

Gee, I miss having a real President!!
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@alferdpacker wrote:

The psychopathic cheetolini has a lifelong history of lying to people in order to perpetrate yet another scam...

 

Jared Kushner 'admitted Donald Trump lies to his base because he thinks they're stupid' | The Indepe...

 

Are they stupid?  Hell yes - they voted for him, didn't they?

 

It's been noted recently that more and more people who voted for him - as well as people in the business world who believed what he claimed - are beginning to realize that he lied to them from the very beginning - and now no longer support him at all...


I'd like to think there are enough of those to make a difference in 2018....except...'the donald's' base appears to be holding according to the numbers I've seen.  They are enough to 'pack the primaries' and prevent a real 'choice' from happening.  To counter them, there will have to be a 'grassroots' effort within the Republican Party itself...Democrats and/or Progressives can't do it by themselves because of the way the primary system works in most states.  It is why there is a preponderance of Republicans in state and local office. 

 

Here are some data:

 

-Republicans occupy 33 of 50 governor's offices.

-Republicans control 68 of 99 legislative chambers.

-Republicans control the governorship AND both legislative chambers in 25 of 50 states.

 

But wait...there's more:

 

Mark Pertschuk, director of Grassroots Change notes, "the last operating bastion of democracy is at the local level;  counties, cities, school boards, other types of local agencies.  That's where innovations and progress have been made."

 

So...."PREEMPTION" means:

-Jim DeCesare, GOP legislator, Kentucky, "We can pretty much do whatever we want to right now.  This is our time to shine."

-Ohio State GOP Senator, "So when we talk about local control, we mean state control".

-ALEC[American Legislative Exchange Council...GOP front organization with Koch ties] official, "There's a sea of red.  What are we going to do with these new legislatures?"

-To counter cities having minimum wage hikes, ALEC circulated a model bill titled "Living Wage Preemption Act".  It shouldn't surprise anyone that 50% of states passed a version.  Ohio is the latest.

-Ohio legislators tacked a preemption amendment onto an unrelated bill to get it passed thereby negating Cleveland's minimum wage increase.

-ALEC member Howard Stevenson, Utah State Senator, "We need to stamp out local control".

-Greg Abbott, Texas Governor, "As opposed to the state having to take multiple rifle-shot approaches to overriding local regulations, I think a broad-based law by the state of Texas that says across the board, the state is going to preempt local regulations is a superior approach".

 

That's what it means....agree or not.

 

It is a two-edged sword, of course.  WE could take back control of the Federal Government and Preempt whatever it is THEY do at the local level.  2018 is close.  Whadyathink?  Sound like a plan?

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   "So very tired of winning"   

 

    

Challenger report says

  • Cutbacks in retail and the auto industry sent job reductions soaring to over 50,000 in May, according to a report by Challenger, Gray & Christmas.
  • The total of 51,692 in May was 41 percent higher than the 36,602 job cuts announced in April and 71 percent higher than in May 2016, when employers said they would lay off 30,157 workers.

Is this the winning that Donald supporters are giddy about?   

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The psychopathic cheetolini has a lifelong history of lying to people in order to perpetrate yet another scam...

 

Jared Kushner 'admitted Donald Trump lies to his base because he thinks they're stupid' | The Indepe...

 

Are they stupid?  Hell yes - they voted for him, didn't they?

 

It's been noted recently that more and more people who voted for him - as well as people in the business world who believed what he claimed - are beginning to realize that he lied to them from the very beginning - and now no longer support him at all...

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trump is the modern day version of the boy who cried wolf.  It is all catching up with this fool.  I have long thought that his need for adoration, which drove him to seek the presidency would be the undoing of both he and his miserable family. 

It has become very obvious that trump couldn't twist a wet noodle, much less a huge company like Carrier, whose execs., in all probability knew they were listening to the world's biggest joke.

Gee, I miss having a real President!!
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only cost 7 million in tax advantage too.
So it begins.
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Rejoice,  rejoice.  this is the time to rejoice.  and remember my words.
"The more harm that they do, and the sooner that they do it. the sooner that they will leave."

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