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TRUMP IS IN A BAD MOOD

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/11/post-midterms-trump-is-in-a-bad-mood

 

“THE PRESIDENT IS VERY DEPRESSED”: WITH DON JR. FACING POSSIBLE INDICTMENT, AND ENDLESS HOUSE INVESTIGATIONS FORTHCOMING, NO WONDER TRUMP IS IN A BAD MOOD

 

He finally got rid of Jeff Sessions—but Donald Trump’s life is about to get much harder.

 

Last night, about 100 friends and allies of Donald Trump gathered at the White House for a party to watch the midterm-election results. Trump was in high spirits as the first polls closed, thinking that perhaps he’d defied the laws of political gravity once again. “His mood was great,” one Republican who spoke with Trump said, “but that was before everything went bad.”

 

How bad it will get is the question the West Wing is debating today. Signaling that perhaps he wants to rein in Mueller before a report is turned over, Trump asked beleaguered Attorney General Jeff Sessionsto resign. According to a source close to Sessions, Trump waited until this morning to make the request. “He hated Sessions,” the source said, “it all goes back to the recusal.” Sessions’s replacement, Acting Attorney General Matt Whitaker, is a conservative out of central casting. “Trump loves the guy. He’s like six-foot-four and played tight end for Iowa’s Rose Bowl team,” a Republican close to the White House said. Before he’d joined the administration, Whitaker, who will assume authority over the Mueller probe from Rod Rosenstein, wrote an article saying that if the special counsel investigated Trump’s finances it would represent a “red line,” and has suggested that one way to curtail the investigation without firing Mueller would be to starve it of funds.

 

Trump’s move against Sessions today arrives at a moment when Trump allies are increasingly concerned about Donald Trump Jr.’s legal exposure. In recent days, according to three sources, Don Jr. has been telling friends he is worried about being indicted as early as this week. One person close to Don Jr. speculated that Mueller could indict him for making false statements to Congress and the F.B.I. about whether he had told his father about the June 2016 Trump Tower meeting with Russians to gather “dirt” on Hillary Clinton. This source had heard that the case could revolve around Trump’s former deputy campaign chairman, Rick Gates, who’s cooperating with Mueller and who was deeply involved in the campaign at the time of the meeting. Trump, this person continued, is “very upset” about the risks Don Jr. faces. “The president is very depressed,” this person said. (“Don never said any such thing, and there is absolutely no truth to these rumors,” said Don Jr.’s lawyer, Alan Futerfas.)

 

As the West Wing confronts fallout from Mueller’s next moves, Trump is also facing a vastly altered political environment in which the Democrats are poised to aggressively investigate the executive branch. “Trump is thinking about it two ways. No. 1, what could they release about me? And No. 2, how does it work politically for me?” a Republican briefed on the president’s thinking said. Inside the White House, there’s a debate about how to deal with Democrats controlling the House. Some advisers fear the White House is not set up to defend itself against the onslaught of hearings. “I would be very concerned about the House investigations,” a former West Wing official said. “I think everyone is worried,” one Republican close to the president told me.

 

The White House did not respond to a request for comment.

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There once was a man named Trump

Who was most decidedly a grump.

He was rude and crude

When being interviewed 

And lost his cool

While out on the stump.

A limerick by Me about Him

 

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Well you know, those lies do catch up with you.  

 

You tell one lie, and then when your asked again, you can't remember the last lie so you lie again.

 

So it goes. 

 

The Orange Face and Little Donny lied, they don't remember  what Their Own Lies were, now they're suppose to remember Each Others Lies,  WOW!! 

 

Just who/what is he in a bad mood about himself,  little Donny or Mueller, he'd probably lie if we asked him. 

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The truth of the matter is, Benedict Donald is always in a bad mood.  He came into the election with a bad mood.  He came into the office of President with a bad mood.  In fact, I'd like to know when he is NOT in a bad mood?  Moreover, he has been confrontational, argumentative, belligerent, vindictive, and just plain rude to just about everyone he has had dealings with--whether it be the body politic, his staff, his appointees, other heads of State/Leaders around the world, judges, the media, or just plain citizens who have the misfortune of crossing his path or stepping into his crosshairs.  In short, he has a bad attitude laced with arrogance and too much time and energy has been wasted on having to deal with "it" and his foul mouth!  

 

He may be the President, but he will NEVER be Presidential!!!

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Der Trumper is not "in a bad mood" - He's a cornered animal and is reacting as one would expect - snarling, bearing teeth, trying to look "formidible".

 

But its all to no avail - he lost his cover (the House) and since he's never "thought it thru" for ANYTHING he's ever done, he is now confronting the very real possibility his usurption of the Presidency with the help of his Russian creditors will put his worthless (wait for his tax returns if you need verification) orange behind in prison.

 

You see GOPers, unlike Hillary who committed NO CRIMES and had this fact repeatedly verified by 5 years of endless investigation, Der Trumper is guilty as sin for conspiring with a hostile foreign Government against the United States. His own attorney (Giuliani) has repeatedly admitted as much and only the blindness of those who stand in slackjawed awe before His Trumpness fail to see this.

 

As for "fishing expeditions", Mueller has hooked and landed EIGHT -EVERY SINGLE ONE OF TRUMPS CRONIES HE HAD INDICTED! Manafort, Gates, Papadopolos, Flynn, Pinedo, Cohen, Patten and van der Zwaan. I should have this much luck "fishing".

 

The "witch hunt" has been extrodinarily successful as well, considering there's no such thing as a witch. Waiting in the wings are 13 Russian businessmen, 12 GRU agents and 3 Russian companies all indicted by Grand Juries for Felony Crimes. Ummmm - seems to be some Russian involvement after all.

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@Olderscout66 wrote:

Der Trumper is not "in a bad mood" - He's a cornered animal and is reacting as one would expect - snarling, bearing teeth, trying to look "formidible".

 

But its all to no avail - he lost his cover (the House) and since he's never "thought it thru" for ANYTHING he's ever done, he is now confronting the very real possibility his usurption of the Presidency with the help of his Russian creditors will put his worthless (wait for his tax returns if you need verification) orange behind in prison.

 

You see GOPers, unlike Hillary who committed NO CRIMES and had this fact repeatedly verified by 5 years of endless investigation, Der Trumper is guilty as sin for conspiring with a hostile foreign Government against the United States. His own attorney (Giuliani) has repeatedly admitted as much and only the blindness of those who stand in slackjawed awe before His Trumpness fail to see this.

 

As for "fishing expeditions", Mueller has hooked and landed EIGHT -EVERY SINGLE ONE OF TRUMPS CRONIES HE HAD INDICTED! Manafort, Gates, Papadopolos, Flynn, Pinedo, Cohen, Patten and van der Zwaan. I should have this much luck "fishing".

 

The "witch hunt" has been extrodinarily successful as well, considering there's no such thing as a witch. Waiting in the wings are 13 Russian businessmen, 12 GRU agents and 3 Russian companies all indicted by Grand Juries for Felony Crimes. Ummmm - seems to be some Russian involvement after all.


If you have information as to all your allegations, talk to Mueller he apparently needs help. It's time for a report and moving on.

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9152 says "If you have information as to all your allegations, talk to Mueller he apparently needs help. It's time for a report and moving on."

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Don't worry , the Honorable Robert Mueller doesn't need any help from us , I'm sure he has his hands full of the Trump Party misdeeds. There is no other explanation why President Trump continues to lash out at Mueller. Sure alot of worrying If there's nothing to worry about !

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@mandm84 wrote:

9152 says "If you have information as to all your allegations, talk to Mueller he apparently needs help. It's time for a report and moving on."

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Don't worry , the Honorable Robert Mueller doesn't need any help from us , I'm sure he has his hands full of the Trump Party misdeeds. There is no other explanation why President Trump continues to lash out at Mueller. Sure alot of worrying If there's nothing to worry about !


If it is your point that there must be "something" due to the President's "worrying" - what indication do you have about any "worrying"?

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@gruffstuff wrote:

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/11/post-midterms-trump-is-in-a-bad-mood

 

“THE PRESIDENT IS VERY DEPRESSED”: WITH DON JR. FACING POSSIBLE INDICTMENT, AND ENDLESS HOUSE INVESTIGATIONS FORTHCOMING, NO WONDER TRUMP IS IN A BAD MOOD

 

He finally got rid of Jeff Sessions—but Donald Trump’s life is about to get much harder.

 

Last night, about 100 friends and allies of Donald Trump gathered at the White House for a party to watch the midterm-election results. Trump was in high spirits as the first polls closed, thinking that perhaps he’d defied the laws of political gravity once again. “His mood was great,” one Republican who spoke with Trump said, “but that was before everything went bad.”

 

How bad it will get is the question the West Wing is debating today. Signaling that perhaps he wants to rein in Mueller before a report is turned over, Trump asked beleaguered Attorney General Jeff Sessionsto resign. According to a source close to Sessions, Trump waited until this morning to make the request. “He hated Sessions,” the source said, “it all goes back to the recusal.” Sessions’s replacement, Acting Attorney General Matt Whitaker, is a conservative out of central casting. “Trump loves the guy. He’s like six-foot-four and played tight end for Iowa’s Rose Bowl team,” a Republican close to the White House said. Before he’d joined the administration, Whitaker, who will assume authority over the Mueller probe from Rod Rosenstein, wrote an article saying that if the special counsel investigated Trump’s finances it would represent a “red line,” and has suggested that one way to curtail the investigation without firing Mueller would be to starve it of funds.

 

Trump’s move against Sessions today arrives at a moment when Trump allies are increasingly concerned about Donald Trump Jr.’s legal exposure. In recent days, according to three sources, Don Jr. has been telling friends he is worried about being indicted as early as this week. One person close to Don Jr. speculated that Mueller could indict him for making false statements to Congress and the F.B.I. about whether he had told his father about the June 2016 Trump Tower meeting with Russians to gather “dirt” on Hillary Clinton. This source had heard that the case could revolve around Trump’s former deputy campaign chairman, Rick Gates, who’s cooperating with Mueller and who was deeply involved in the campaign at the time of the meeting. Trump, this person continued, is “very upset” about the risks Don Jr. faces. “The president is very depressed,” this person said. (“Don never said any such thing, and there is absolutely no truth to these rumors,” said Don Jr.’s lawyer, Alan Futerfas.)

 

As the West Wing confronts fallout from Mueller’s next moves, Trump is also facing a vastly altered political environment in which the Democrats are poised to aggressively investigate the executive branch. “Trump is thinking about it two ways. No. 1, what could they release about me? And No. 2, how does it work politically for me?” a Republican briefed on the president’s thinking said. Inside the White House, there’s a debate about how to deal with Democrats controlling the House. Some advisers fear the White House is not set up to defend itself against the onslaught of hearings. “I would be very concerned about the House investigations,” a former West Wing official said. “I think everyone is worried,” one Republican close to the president told me.

 

The White House did not respond to a request for comment.


Well, Mr. Sherman, the Sessions situation is certainly not a surprise. And as to the election, it too should not have been a surprise. Certainly it will be more difficult dealing with a Dem House but - that's the way the system works. I expect the President and his supporters to deal with it better than the "Resistance" and the pussyhatters dealt with the previous election.

 

As to the expected all consuming investigations by the House, we can only hope that the President will have a "wingman" like Holder or Lynch to sandbag them. Just imagine a "tarmc summit" involving the Trump Administration - the lefties would totally lose it.

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rk9152:  As to the expected all consuming investigations by the House, we can only hope that the President will have a "wingman" like Holder or Lynch to sandbag them. Just imagine a "tarmc summit" involving the Trump Administration - the lefties would totally lose it.

 

 

 

If all Trump had ever done was comensurate with the so called tarmac summit, there would be no problem for him. If conservatives had any sense of proportionality they would understand this, but the habit of inflating every nothingburger into  an outrage and a crisis means they're clueless and will remain that way.

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@rk9152 wrote:

 Just imagine a "tarmc summit" involving the Trump Administration

Why a tarmac? Is the Kremlin suddenly unavailable?

 

 

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/statements/byruling/false/ (13 pages of lies and growing)
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@BigLib wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

 Just imagine a "tarmc summit" involving the Trump Administration

Why a tarmac? Is the Kremlin suddenly unavailable?

 

 


Cute - but can't you just see the whacky left going bonkers if his Administration had one?

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@rk9152 wrote:

@BigLib wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

 Just imagine a "tarmc summit" involving the Trump Administration

Why a tarmac? Is the Kremlin suddenly unavailable?

 

 


Cute - but can't you just see the whacky left going bonkers if his Administration had one?


What the whacky right always wants to ignore is -

 

"Special counsel Robert Mueller’s team has indicted or gotten guilty pleas from 32 people and three companies — that we know of.

 

That group is composed of four former Trump advisers, 26 Russian nationals, three Russian companies, one California man, and one London-based lawyer. Six of these people (including now all four former Trump aides) have pleaded guilty.

 

If you also count investigations that Mueller originated but then referred elsewhere in the Justice Department, you can add plea deals from two more people to the list.

 

Other reported focuses of Mueller’s investigation — such as potential obstruction of justice by the Trump administration — have also not resulted in any indictments yet."

 

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/2/20/17031772/mueller-indictments-grand-jury

 

 

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/statements/byruling/false/ (13 pages of lies and growing)
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@BigLib wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

@BigLib wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

 Just imagine a "tarmc summit" involving the Trump Administration

Why a tarmac? Is the Kremlin suddenly unavailable?

 

 


Cute - but can't you just see the whacky left going bonkers if his Administration had one?


What the whacky right always wants to ignore is -

 

"Special counsel Robert Mueller’s team has indicted or gotten guilty pleas from 32 people and three companies — that we know of.

 

That group is composed of four former Trump advisers, 26 Russian nationals, three Russian companies, one California man, and one London-based lawyer. Six of these people (including now all four former Trump aides) have pleaded guilty.

 

If you also count investigations that Mueller originated but then referred elsewhere in the Justice Department, you can add plea deals from two more people to the list.

 

Other reported focuses of Mueller’s investigation — such as potential obstruction of justice by the Trump administration — have also not resulted in any indictments yet."

 

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/2/20/17031772/mueller-indictments-grand-jury

 

 


Yep, it's true - Mueller's fishing expedition is finding all  sorts of things from years ago but nothing about "Russian collusion" or the President.

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rk9152:  

 

Yep, it's true - Mueller's fishing expedition is finding all  sorts of things from years ago but nothing about "Russian collusion" or the President.

 

 

Are you really this clueless? If that were true then why is Trump having a non stop hissy fit trying to get Mueller closed down? His fear is transparently obvious, and while you may not know what's coming, he does.

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@Panjandrum wrote:

rk9152:  

 

Yep, it's true - Mueller's fishing expedition is finding all  sorts of things from years ago but nothing about "Russian collusion" or the President.

 

 

Are you really this clueless? If that were true then why is Trump having a non stop hissy fit trying to get Mueller closed down? His fear is transparently obvious, and while you may not know what's coming, he does.


I saw no hissy fit. What I did see was a rational suggestion that Mueller "Get it over with, already". All that money, all that time, all that political poison. It is time to wrap it up.

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rk9152:   I saw no hissy fit. What I did see was a rational suggestion that Mueller "Get it over with, already". All that money, all that time, all that political poison. It is time to wrap it up.

 

 

Frankly, it's none of Trump's business to try to dictate how Mueller runs the investigation. He needs to butt out of it because all he's doing by showing his backside like this is giving Mueller more evidence to add to the obstruction of justice part of it. And that is 100% Trump's doing and extremely stupid on his part.

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@Panjandrum wrote:

rk9152:   I saw no hissy fit. What I did see was a rational suggestion that Mueller "Get it over with, already". All that money, all that time, all that political poison. It is time to wrap it up.

 

 

Frankly, it's none of Trump's business to try to dictate how Mueller runs the investigation. He needs to butt out of it because all he's doing by showing his backside like this is giving Mueller more evidence to add to the obstruction of justice part of it. And that is 100% Trump's doing and extremely stupid on his part.


If lil donny had not been such a prolific crook and traitor, Mueller could've finished sooner, but being a true master at his craft, Mueller is going to make sure he sweeps up ALL the traitorous criminals, including jrtrump, jarad and ivanka along with the the Putin puppet POTUS Orange Toad himself

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@Olderscout66 wrote:

@Panjandrum wrote:

rk9152:   I saw no hissy fit. What I did see was a rational suggestion that Mueller "Get it over with, already". All that money, all that time, all that political poison. It is time to wrap it up.

 

 

Frankly, it's none of Trump's business to try to dictate how Mueller runs the investigation. He needs to butt out of it because all he's doing by showing his backside like this is giving Mueller more evidence to add to the obstruction of justice part of it. And that is 100% Trump's doing and extremely stupid on his part.


If lil donny had not been such a prolific crook and traitor, Mueller could've finished sooner, but being a true master at his craft, Mueller is going to make sure he sweeps up ALL the traitorous criminals, including jrtrump, jarad and ivanka along with the the Putin puppet POTUS Orange Toad himself


What did the President do to delay the Mueller fishing expedition? Did he invoke the Reagan tax cuts or get those Oligarchs involved?

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@Panjandrum wrote:

rk9152:   I saw no hissy fit. What I did see was a rational suggestion that Mueller "Get it over with, already". All that money, all that time, all that political poison. It is time to wrap it up.

 

 

Frankly, it's none of Trump's business to try to dictate how Mueller runs the investigation. He needs to butt out of it because all he's doing by showing his backside like this is giving Mueller more evidence to add to the obstruction of justice part of it. And that is 100% Trump's doing and extremely stupid on his part.


Of course it's his business. He and his friends and associates are the ones constantly being harassed about it. It is certainly a distraction from him doing his job.

 

If Mueller decides that "backside showing" is illegal, that is something both sides will have to deal with at some point - if Mueller ever gets around to ending the fishing expedition.

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@rk9152 wrote:


Yep, it's true - Mueller's fishing expedition is finding all  sorts of things from years ago but nothing about "Russian collusion" or the President.


If there wasn't anything to catch, Trump wouldn't be so angry and scared about a special counsel and grand jury "fishing." How many versions of the Trump Tower meeting are there? And why does it keep evolving? A "fishing expedition" could wind up being as easy as shooting fish in a barrel.

 

 

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/statements/byruling/false/ (13 pages of lies and growing)
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@BigLib wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:


Yep, it's true - Mueller's fishing expedition is finding all  sorts of things from years ago but nothing about "Russian collusion" or the President.


If there wasn't anything to catch, Trump wouldn't be so angry and scared about a special counsel and grand jury "fishing." How many versions of the Trump Tower meeting are there? And why does it keep evolving? A "fishing expedition" could wind up being as easy as shooting fish in a barrel.

 

 


There are three separate issues there. I'll deal with the separately.

 

1. Your ability to "read" the President's innermost feelings. You are really going to have to prove your credentials in that area;

2. There is and has been only one version of the meeting. A woman was given special permission to enter the country by the Obama Administration. She offered "dirt" on Hillary. When they met she tried to witch the topic to adoption, the walked.

3. The fishing expedition was touted as something about "Russian collusion" and the elections but has been about everything but that. 

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@rk9152 wrote:

There is and has been only one version of the meeting. A woman was given special permission to enter the country by the Obama Administration. She offered "dirt" on Hillary. When they met she tried to witch the topic to adoption, the walked.

 


And yours is a different version still.

 

https://www.factcheck.org/2018/06/a-timeline-of-trump-tower-meeting-responses/

 

The Trump administration really does need to work out and settle on one lie, so they and their supporters don't keep proving they're incapable of telling the truth.

 

 

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/statements/byruling/false/ (13 pages of lies and growing)
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@BigLib wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

There is and has been only one version of the meeting. A woman was given special permission to enter the country by the Obama Administration. She offered "dirt" on Hillary. When they met she tried to witch the topic to adoption, the walked.

 


And yours is a different version still.

 

https://www.factcheck.org/2018/06/a-timeline-of-trump-tower-meeting-responses/

 

The Trump administration really does need to work out and settle on one lie, so they and their supporters don't keep proving they're incapable of telling the truth.

 

 


Certainly Kiely's report was longer than my comments. But, what was the disparity that you see?

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@rk9152 wrote:

@BigLib wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

There is and has been only one version of the meeting. A woman was given special permission to enter the country by the Obama Administration. She offered "dirt" on Hillary. When they met she tried to witch the topic to adoption, the walked.

 


And yours is a different version still.

 

https://www.factcheck.org/2018/06/a-timeline-of-trump-tower-meeting-responses/

 

The Trump administration really does need to work out and settle on one lie, so they and their supporters don't keep proving they're incapable of telling the truth.

 

 


Certainly Kiely's report was longer than my comments. But, what was the disparity that you see?


Wow, really? Do you really need the disparity explained to you?? Only because it highlights Trump's obstruction, will I play your little game here.

 

Trump & Co initially tried to pass off the meeting as nothing more than discussing adoptions the Obama admin had put an end to. No one ever claimed they "walked" out when that's what the topic was. Only you've claimed that. Not even the fact-checker claims that.

 

Trump & Co finally had to admit the actual and sole purpose of the meeting was to get dirt on Hillary, but then they all started lying about whose idea it was, who was there, who approved it, who knew it was going on, who penned Jr's memo, was the Russian really an agent of the Kremlin (she was).

 

But then, you knew that.

 

 

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/statements/byruling/false/ (13 pages of lies and growing)
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@BigLib wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

@BigLib wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

There is and has been only one version of the meeting. A woman was given special permission to enter the country by the Obama Administration. She offered "dirt" on Hillary. When they met she tried to witch the topic to adoption, the walked.

 


And yours is a different version still.

 

https://www.factcheck.org/2018/06/a-timeline-of-trump-tower-meeting-responses/

 

The Trump administration really does need to work out and settle on one lie, so they and their supporters don't keep proving they're incapable of telling the truth.

 

 


Certainly Kiely's report was longer than my comments. But, what was the disparity that you see?


Wow, really? Do you really need the disparity explained to you?? Only because it highlights Trump's obstruction, will I play your little game here.

 

Trump & Co initially tried to pass off the meeting as nothing more than discussing adoptions the Obama admin had put an end to. No one ever claimed they "walked" out when that's what the topic was. Only you've claimed that. Not even the fact-checker claims that.

 

Trump & Co finally had to admit the actual and sole purpose of the meeting was to get dirt on Hillary, but then they all started lying about whose idea it was, who was there, who approved it, who knew it was going on, who penned Jr's memo, was the Russian really an agent of the Kremlin (she was).

 

But then, you knew that.

 

 


Wow, really? - yes. There are two aspects of this - her intentions and their intentions. They were obviously different and hardly worth all the fuss made about it.

 

As an example, you posted, "Trump & Co finally had to admit the actual and sole purpose of the meeting was to get dirt on Hillary" - it wasn't the only and sole reason. It was their only and sole reason.

 

As to "agent of the Kremlin" - remember, she got special permission to enter the country from the Obama Administration. Under the circumstances, talking to her is hardly sinister.

 

And I am sure you know that.

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@rk9152 wrote:


There are two aspects of this - her intentions and their intentions. They were obviously different and hardly worth all the fuss made about it.

 

You still don't understand what the Trump campaign finally admitted to. Her intentions and their intentions were the same. Both were there to talk about getting dirt on Hillary. Her being a Russian government agent is where the problem arises. The adoption story is nothing more than the campaign's initial CYA story. Once the truth leaked out, they abandoned it.

 

As to "agent of the Kremlin" - remember, she got special permission to enter the country from the Obama Administration. Under the circumstances, talking to her is hardly sinister.

 

She works for the Kremlin and was invited here by the Trump campaign, so trying to pin it on Obama is pointless. The Kremlin wished to influence the campaign. Russia wished to influence the campaign. Trump's campaign encouraged it.

 

Imagine how the right wingers would have fainted, and rightly so, if Christopher Steele had still been working for MI6.


 

 

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/statements/byruling/false/ (13 pages of lies and growing)
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@BigLib wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:


There are two aspects of this - her intentions and their intentions. They were obviously different and hardly worth all the fuss made about it.

 

You still don't understand what the Trump campaign finally admitted to. Her intentions and their intentions were the same. Both were there to talk about getting dirt on Hillary. Her being a Russian government agent is where the problem arises. The adoption story is nothing more than the campaign's initial CYA story. Once the truth leaked out, they abandoned it.

 

As to "agent of the Kremlin" - remember, she got special permission to enter the country from the Obama Administration. Under the circumstances, talking to her is hardly sinister.

 

She works for the Kremlin and was invited here by the Trump campaign, so trying to pin it on Obama is pointless. The Kremlin wished to influence the campaign. Russia wished to influence the campaign. Trump's campaign encouraged it.

No - she was granted entry by the Obama Administration. She requested it so she could lobby. She was not invited by the Trump campaign.

 

Imagine how the right wingers would have fainted, and rightly so, if Christopher Steele had still been working for MI6.

What has Steele to do with this discussion? Being that Natalia Veselnitskaya was a "Russian agent", did the actions of the Obama Administration cause you to faint??


 

 


 

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@rk9152 wrote:

She was not invited by the Trump campaign.


Yeah. She was just haplessly wandering around the streets of New York City, when someone in the Trump campaign thought she looked like someone who might have dirt on Hillary Clinton, so they invited her inside Trump Tower, and lo and behold, wouldn't 'ya know! Please. And then to blame it all on Obama. That's as funny as Trump saying he doesn't know Whitaker, even though he had already said he knew him. No wonder Trump is in a bad mood! He can't keep his lies straight, and neither can his supporters!

 

 

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/statements/byruling/false/ (13 pages of lies and growing)
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