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@BigBobbyS wrote:

WANTED: 10 Republican Senators that would change their party Affiliation to Independent and threaten to caucus with the Democrats. Bye Bye Mc Connell and Bye Bye loser President. Let’s call the Senators that are on the fence and recommend this solution. Grid lock is killing this country. I am sick of hearing we are in UNCHARTERED territory. Make today the day you will introduce yourself to your Congressman or Senator and relay your feelings. Get Involved!


Yeah good luck with that!  Is your voice as strong as the lobbyist?

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WANTED: 10 Republican Senators that would change their party Affiliation to Independent and threaten to caucus with the Democrats. Bye Bye Mc Connell and Bye Bye loser President. Let’s call the Senators that are on the fence and recommend this solution. Grid lock is killing this country. I am sick of hearing we are in UNCHARTERED territory. Make today the day you will introduce yourself to your Congressman or Senator and relay your feelings. Get Involved!

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Except for his blindly loyal base, Trump hasn't won. Ask yourself why in 2 years where the GOP controlled the House, the Senate, and the White House, they couldn't fund trump's stupid wall. But Trump Cult members will never hold him accountable. They always find a villain/scapegoat.


As people capable of thinking deeper than "blind loyal base" and "Trump Cult" know, they were blocked from doing so by the Dems under the rules as they exist. 


And yet, when Democrats are in power, things got done.  So? Republicans are morons? 

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@CriticalThinking wrote:

Except for his blindly loyal base, Trump hasn't won. Ask yourself why in 2 years where the GOP controlled the House, the Senate, and the White House, they couldn't fund trump's stupid wall. But Trump Cult members will never hold him accountable. They always find a villain/scapegoat.


As people capable of thinking deeper than "blind loyal base" and "Trump Cult" know, they were blocked from doing so by the Dems under the rules as they exist. 

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The Trump Followers are now going to have to explain to themselves the words that they have heard Trump say so many times. And Mexico will pay for it.

Now, today, he claims that he never said that , that he never said that Mexico  would write a check for the wall, but all this dealing and Wheeling and his NAfta    DEAL WOULD SAVE SO MUCH MONEY THAT THE WALL WOULD BE PAID BY IT. 
The problem lies that in that agreement there is nothing that states that any funds would be used to build his famous wall. 

 

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Except for his blindly loyal base, Trump hasn't won. Ask yourself why in 2 years where the GOP controlled the House, the Senate, and the White House, they couldn't fund trump's stupid wall. But Trump Cult members will never hold him accountable. They always find a villain/scapegoat.

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Trump has already won but not for the reasons you state. Trump promised many things that he has accomplished and trying to accomplish. The "wall" is one promise he's attempting with no help from Democrats and even some Republicans. If he does declare a national emergency to get the wall, no one knows the legal ramifications yet. If it winds up in the courts, will it wind up in the Supreme Court and how will that go? Time will tell but the reason why Trump will be the winner is he can TRUTHFULLY declare that he did all he could do to build that wall.

 

As far as the Mueller report goes, any redactions will be by Democrats or Democrat sympathizers to obfuscate the meaning of the "witch hunt".


Amazing,!!!!!  yes, it is individuals that  think like you do is what fomrs that 35% of people that simply want to see thid  country fold. and why not blame anyone else? is that easy.


If you take a poll and word it so a wall is required to have the country survive, you will see the 35% you mentioned. If you word the poll: "do you think that illegal aliens will be slowed down from entering illegally preventing murders, rape, and other violent crimes against our citizens", I predict that you WILL see the majority of poll takers say YES (not 35%).

 

No one seems to think the "country should fold" but it was an extreme comment by you.  The only people that seem to want the country decimated is liberals because they want open borders, illegal aliens are welcome, want high taxes on those already paying all the taxes, no voter id needed, they always want more free stuff, can't live without "green initiative" which is another scam to collect more taxes for redistribution, and the latest scam is Medicare for All.

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@NOTHAPPENING wrote:

Trump has already won but not for the reasons you state. Trump promised many things that he has accomplished and trying to accomplish. The "wall" is one promise he's attempting with no help from Democrats and even some Republicans. If he does declare a national emergency to get the wall, no one knows the legal ramifications yet. If it winds up in the courts, will it wind up in the Supreme Court and how will that go? Time will tell but the reason why Trump will be the winner is he can TRUTHFULLY declare that he did all he could do to build that wall.

 

As far as the Mueller report goes, any redactions will be by Democrats or Democrat sympathizers to obfuscate the meaning of the "witch hunt".


Amazing,!!!!!  yes, it is individuals that  think like you do is what fomrs that 35% of people that simply want to see thid  country fold. and why not blame anyone else? is that easy.

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NOTHAPPENING:  If it winds up in the courts, will it wind up in the Supreme Court and how will that go?

 

 

My guess is it will go badly for Trump. First, he won't be able to show the emergency he claims to justify it, and second, it will set a terrible and dangerous precedent that future presidents can follow.

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@rker321 wrote:

For those of you that haven't seen this yet.  Yes, he has won.!!!  he has the Americans  where he wants them to be by the short hairs.
He  will love to declare a national Emergency,  and keep the government closed, allow the Congress to then sue him in court and then come  back to the people and say.
You see, I will do anything to save this country and the Democrats don't want to do so.
None of you have ever fought an Autocrat for President, and I believe that you keep on fighting him with the rules  that you all have had as a Republic.

But this man is not the kind of individual that has any respect for the rule of Law and couldn't care less about anyone but his own will and declare that he is the winner.

So, now what, what is next. what will be the next temper tantrum that he will declare and everyone has to simply cave in and give him what he will demand?
Have any of you come up with a solution? 
You all need to see how you can crack that base.  and have McConnel cave in.  and the only way that I see that is by flooding ;the Republicans in the Senate with calls and letters.

By the way, also consider this.

The Mueller investigation is in danger. there is the possibility that the public will not see the report because they will redact it to no end. and declare victory.

so, that is another fight that this Congress will have.  
It will take very strong leaders and very good Americans to get rid of this administration  it can be done if you all persevere.


Trump has already won but not for the reasons you state. Trump promised many things that he has accomplished and trying to accomplish. The "wall" is one promise he's attempting with no help from Democrats and even some Republicans. If he does declare a national emergency to get the wall, no one knows the legal ramifications yet. If it winds up in the courts, will it wind up in the Supreme Court and how will that go? Time will tell but the reason why Trump will be the winner is he can TRUTHFULLY declare that he did all he could do to build that wall.

 

As far as the Mueller report goes, any redactions will be by Democrats or Democrat sympathizers to obfuscate the meaning of the "witch hunt".

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