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@nctarheel wrote:

@Centristsin2010 wrote:


Daily Caller - Right Bias

 

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The website was initially launched after raising $3 million in funding from businessman Foster Friess. 


Thanks, @Centristsin2010 , for posting all the information relating THE DAILY CALLER.

 

I usually do the same as @jimc91 seems to use this fringe media outlet as a valid resource.....NOT.

 

One bit of trivia your expose' left out.

 

Its original funder, FOSTER FRIESS, publicly stated that:

 

"WOMEN SHOULD PRACTICE CONTRACEPTION BY SQUEEZING AN ASPIRIN BETWEEN THEIR KNEES"

 

That gives you some kind of idea of the corporate culture at THE DAILY CALLER.


Right you are, nc.  Just more of the same hypocrisy and cognitive dissonance.  The Fake News perpetuated by these extreme and politically bigoted "news sites"; yet this is what low-information types get their "information".  It's no wonder a pinhead got elected.  They should be embarrassed.....

 

Does THAT mean that a massive bill was not PUT before the CONGRESS without the TO READ it?  I don't know if the Congress Critters aides put "to read" on the bill; do you have inside information to state they didn't?  Or just more Fake News?


 


"FAKE 45 #illegitimate" read a sign at the Woman's March in Washington DC, January 21, 2017.
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Once again, I am forced to explain how the government works to Conservatives.  It seems to be my cross to bear. 

 

There are hundreds of policy/budget smurfs who work at the direction of their legislators.  Each smurf is tasked with making sure their legislator's agenda is included in the bill or that the legislator signs off on having that agenda modified or dropped.  Think of it as a human ant colony.  At the end of the process, a budget is formed.


I believe everyone knows that - so your burden is removed from your shoulders.

 

The issue is however, the short time between "smurf completion" and voting does not provide for adequate review to find the little stink bombs included.

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Centristsin2010,

Thanks 😊 for posting the facts regarding The Daily Caller. We have become a society who has to.


Don't fall for that trap. There was a massive bill put up for vote without time to read it - regardless of who reported it.


The Hollow Republican Promises To ‘Read The Bill’

 

WASHINGTON ― A Republican House majority that rode to power in 2010 with promises including making sure bill text is available for at least three days before it’s voted on ― and statements that lawmakers ought to read the bills before voting ― approved a 2,232-page measure Thursday that nobody could have possibly read.

 

The text of the massive $1.3 trillion spending deal dropped around 8 p.m. Wednesday. Almost exactly 17 hours later, at 1 p.m. Thursday, House lawmakers passed the bill 256-167.

 

As Minority Whip Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) asked on the House floor Thursday: What happened to the tea party that “harangued” Democrats about having time to read bills?

 

“Is there no shame?” Hoyer asked. “Is there no realization of the hypocrisy that is being displayed?”

 

In interviews with more than 20 GOP lawmakers Thursday, the answer was, largely, no.

 

Time and again, Republicans who came to Congress using hashtags like #ReadTheBill were happy to vote for a beginning-of-the-year bipartisan spending deal ― a fiscal year that was supposed to have begun on Oct. 1, mind you ― and they dismissed arguments that lawmakers and the public ought to have time to read the legislation before it gets a vote.

 

Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) was asked about the broken procedural promises of his speakership Thursday ― there hasn’t been an open rule vote, where any member could offer an amendment to a bill on the floor, in two years; Republicans have routinely stripped provisions from legislation using rules (so-called “legislating on the rule”); and leadership has broken the three-day rule often. Ryan claimed, “By and large, we’ve done a phenomenal job.”

 

Ryan said lawmakers were working against a hard deadline and that Republicans had passed much of this legislation in September when they advanced two spending bills encompassing the 12 appropriations bills, so it wasn’t as if there were any “big surprises.”

 

But those bills were passed under different spending numbers, and scores of provisions were added to this final legislation in the past few months. Lawmakers and the public don’t know what they don’t know about the bill until they’ve actually read it ― or, more likely, a news organization or member discovers a controversial provision and it becomes an issue.

 

Just don’t tell Republicans that.

 

“Everyone knows what’s in this,” Rep. Lynn Jenkins (R-Kan.) told HuffPost.

 

When we challenged that claim, noting that the public had hardly any time to review the bill, Jenkins said the public “can go through it just like we are.”

 

The ‘Read the Bill’ sentiment is in full bloom and on full display.Rep. Peter Roskam (R-Ill.)

When we raised the point that it would be impossible for someone to have read the bill in the time before the vote, Jenkins said the bill was being drafted by the Appropriations Committee since December. And when HuffPost noted that the public still wouldn’t have had an opportunity to read the bill when it was being negotiated behind closed doors, Jenkins said the public could “visit with their member of Congress. Their member of Congress can communicate to them what’s in it.”

 

Time and again Thursday, Republicans acted as if they weren’t violating the promises they made when they took over the majority and issued the “Pledge to America” ― a 45-page document that promises, among many other things, that the text of a bill will be online for at least three days before lawmakers votes on it.

 

more at:  The Hollow Republican Promises To ‘Read The Bill’

 

The usual, do as I say, not as I do hypocrisy from the Right.....


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Reviewing the funding bill with my team at the @WhiteHouse!

 


Does that mean you think that he and his team were not reviewing the proposed legislation? If not - what?

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@Centristsin2010 wrote:


Daily Caller - Right Bias

 

Funded by / Ownership

 

The website was initially launched after raising $3 million in funding from businessman Foster Friess. 


Thanks, @Centristsin2010 , for posting all the information relating THE DAILY CALLER.

 

I usually do the same as @jimc91 seems to use this fringe media outlet as a valid resource.....NOT.

 

One bit of trivia your expose' left out.

 

Its original funder, FOSTER FRIESS, publicly stated that:

 

"WOMEN SHOULD PRACTICE CONTRACEPTION BY SQUEEZING AN ASPIRIN BETWEEN THEIR KNEES"

 

That gives you some kind of idea of the corporate culture at THE DAILY CALLER.


Does THAT mean that a massive bill was not PUT before the CONGRESS without the TO READ it?

 

BTW the words in quotation marks were not what he said. So - "fake news".

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@n566192l wrote:

Centristsin2010,

Thanks 😊 for posting the facts regarding The Daily Caller. We have become a society who has to.


Don't fall for that trap. There was a massive bill put up for vote without time to read it - regardless of who reported it.

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The House of Representatives is scheduled to vote on a government appropriations bill Thursday evening and, with a day until the vote, lawmakers still have not received the text of the legislation.

“No one has seen the final wording of a long and complicated bill we will be expected to vote on tomorrow evening,” Republican Maryland Rep. Andy Harris told The Daily Caller News Foundation. “That’s no way to run a legislature.”

 

Republican Study Chairman Mike Johnson also confirmed that “as of lunch on Wednesday, members of the RSC, and to our knowledge, even members of the conference committee, had not seen the text.”

 

“It has been reported that [House Majority Leader Steny] Hoyer has said if the bill is dropped today we will consider it tomorrow. This is reminiscent of the, ‘you must pass it to find out what is in it,’ Obamacare debacle,” Johnson said to TheDCNF. “This bill is expected to be well over 1,000 pages, and we will potentially have less than 24 hours to digest it. This is absurd.”

 

https://dailycaller.com/2019/02/13/house-vote-spending-bill-read/

 

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This is absurd...  Yet it is so typical of Nancy Pelosi, that lets unelected bureaucrats write legislation in such a way that the elected members don't have the time to get their own lawyers to interpret the Bill and then force them to vote not knowing or understanding what's in it.

 

Remember;  "We have to pass the Bill to see what's in the Bill"...

 

 


What is absurd is how little the far right know about this subject, and how they distort everything to suit their agenda to destroy the US. The bill will be written by the staff of the committee which is made up of Dems, and Reb. Nancy has nothing to do with the bill writing. The Senate has to pass it also, and in fact passed it before the house. These bills are written using what is a very strange language to most people as they have to cover all Fed. laws they could impact. Most people do not understand a bill from reading what is written before a vote. The Staffs write the bills and do understand them. I can assure all that it takes a few years of working with bill to get to the point you can read and understand them. There is always a summary written in plain English for all members to read. When ever you hear read the bill you know the person saying that knows nothing.

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Once again, I am forced to explain how the government works to Conservatives.  It seems to be my cross to bear. 

 

There are hundreds of policy/budget smurfs who work at the direction of their legislators.  Each smurf is tasked with making sure their legislator's agenda is included in the bill or that the legislator signs off on having that agenda modified or dropped.  Think of it as a human ant colony.  At the end of the process, a budget is formed.

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The lobbyists know what's in the Bill.

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Reviewing the funding bill with my team at the @WhiteHouse!

 

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