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nc - do you think maybe "TRUMP THE CHUMP" might lead to "hate" comments?

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@nctarheel wrote:

@jimc91 wrote:

The Trump strategy on free and fair trade is working.  

 

It is driving the Trump haters insane.  

 

I don’t understand why they are so upset over success for America in the trade arena.  What does that say about those people?

 


 

 

Ask any economist and they will tell you that trade can neither be free nor can it be fair.

 

 


And here is a big part of the problem...  Thinking such as this created the problem and we have citizens that support this crazy idea...

 

 

 

 

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@jimc91 wrote:

The Trump strategy on free and fair trade is working.  

 

It is driving the Trump haters insane.  

 

I don’t understand why they are so upset over success for America in the trade arena.  What does that say about those people?

 


Your comment above is evidence that your knowledge of trade is woefully lacking.

 

Ask any economist and they will tell you that trade can neither be free nor can it be fair.

 

Why do you think TRUMP THE CHUMP now wants to give our OUR TAX DOLLARS to soybean farmers?

 

Enough with the "HATERS" word already.

 

As I have pointed out in other threads, "HATERS", "HATRED", and "HATE" are dog whistle words that TRUMP THE CHUMP initiated during the campaign and has continued to use during his presidency.

 

It is a way to rally his base; such as yourself, @jimc91.

 

It is similar method to the use of "KEY WORDS" which are used by CULT leaders to both rally their followers and keep them in line.

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Trump is an economic imbecile.

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Are you objecting to the use of tariffs as negotiating tools in international trade talks?

 

Or are you objecting to Republicans not coming out against the President?

 

 

 

 

 


What Trade talks?  Trump has one trade agreement under his belt and that is with South Korea.  He has not made one deal. He gave China a list of crazy demands and then started backing down immediately. The Chinese have been reaching out to American businessmen to try  to figure out what Trump actually wants.  More chaos and incompetence from the Trump administration.

 

I understand we now have 300 kids left in America after they deported the parents..........what a moron.    

Trade negotiations are a constant, ongoing thing. It only goes public when some agreement has been reached and a photo-op is needed for the signing.

 

Now, the 300 kids - how do they relate to trade talks? Or did you just need to type "moron"?

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@rk9152 wrote:

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Why do you avoid answering valid questions or addressing valid points

Why do you make up stuff and then expect someone else to explain it?

 

1. Please explain how Europe - Canada & Mexico are threatening our National Security? China's ZTE is threatening our National Security and Trump has instituted a Special Exemption for ZTE while still enforcing all the other Chinese Sanctions he implemented?

I have never claimed that they were a threat.

 

2. Please Explain if Trump knows what he's doing WHY Trump just announced 12 Billion of US Tax Payers dollars to be used to bail out US Farmers because of Trumps destruction of the US Soybean & Cotton Market?

That Has been Explained. 

 

3. Please Explain how raising Tariffs on Europe is a step towards the ultimate goal of Zero Tariffs and how in the same argument you accuse me of Negativity - Positivity would be if the USA took the lead and reduced all it's Tariffs to Zero if that is your ultimate Policy Goal and then watched to see if all the other Countries reciprocated...................

That HAS been Explained. You do not LOWER other Nations tariffs BY eliminating Your own.

 

If your Goal is Peace with all Countries you don;t first go out and bomb them all to demonstrate your commitment to Peace

No one was bombed. Now do you see why it is so hard to discuss your fantasies?

 

You use Diplomacy and Negotiation - Trump never tried that with Tariffs - he just went out and bombed everyone

Diplomacy and Negotions require THAT the other Parties know you ARE serious. Trump DEMONSTRATES that.

with Tariffs and created a War where none existed....................every Economist and Large Corporarte CEO told the President - China is the biggest problem becuase of Intellectual Property theft and currency manipulation - Trumps response Bomb Canada Europe and Mexico and Subsidize Chinas ZTE and once again create Chaos and demonstrate incompetence and a complete lack of understanding of anything related to the US or Global Economy 

China is an issue - THAT does not Mean that NO one else IS.

 

4. Even the Koch Brothers said they disagree with Trump on his approach to immigration and trade.

I GUESS that Shows that THE Koch brothers DO not Own the WH.

 

In a briefing for reporters, top Koch network officials said the Trump administration’s rhetoric was making it more difficult for politicians and Americans to find common ground. 

 

“The manner in which people engage public policy matters,” said Brian Hooks, the co-chair of the Seminar Network, the umbrella group that hosts the gatherings. “And it’s gone way beyond tone, way beyond tactic.

 

The divisiveness of this White House is causing long-term damage.”

 

“When in order to win on an issue, somebody else has to lose, it makes it very difficult to unite people to solve the problems in this country,” Hooks said. 

 

Source - https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/koch-network-leaders-blast-trump-white-house-as-divisive_us_5b5...

 

 

 

 

 

 


 


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@rk9152 wrote:

 

Are you objecting to the use of tariffs as negotiating tools in international trade talks?

 

Or are you objecting to Republicans not coming out against the President?

 

 

 

 

 


What Trade talks?  Trump has one trade agreement under his belt and that is with South Korea.  He has not made one deal. He gave China a list of crazy demands and then started backing down immediately. The Chinese have been reaching out to American businessmen to try  to figure out what Trump actually wants.  More chaos and incompetence from the Trump administration.

 

I understand we now have 300 kids left in America after they deported the parents..........what a moron.    

 

 


 


 


 

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@mickstuder wrote:


 

Why do you avoid answering valid questions or addressing valid points

Why do you make up stuff and then expect someone else to explain it?

 

1. Please explain how Europe - Canada & Mexico are threatening our National Security? China's ZTE is threatening our National Security and Trump has instituted a Special Exemption for ZTE while still enforcing all the other Chinese Sanctions he implemented?

I have never claimed that they were a threat.

 

2. Please Explain if Trump knows what he's doing WHY Trump just announced 12 Billion of US Tax Payers dollars to be used to bail out US Farmers because of Trumps destruction of the US Soybean & Cotton Market?

That Has been Explained. 

 

3. Please Explain how raising Tariffs on Europe is a step towards the ultimate goal of Zero Tariffs and how in the same argument you accuse me of Negativity - Positivity would be if the USA took the lead and reduced all it's Tariffs to Zero if that is your ultimate Policy Goal and then watched to see if all the other Countries reciprocated...................

That HAS been Explained. You do not LOWER other Nations tariffs BY eliminating Your own.

 

If your Goal is Peace with all Countries you don;t first go out and bomb them all to demonstrate your commitment to Peace

No one was bombed. Now do you see why it is so hard to discuss your fantasies?

 

You use Diplomacy and Negotiation - Trump never tried that with Tariffs - he just went out and bombed everyone

Diplomacy and Negotions require THAT the other Parties know you ARE serious. Trump DEMONSTRATES that.

with Tariffs and created a War where none existed....................every Economist and Large Corporarte CEO told the President - China is the biggest problem becuase of Intellectual Property theft and currency manipulation - Trumps response Bomb Canada Europe and Mexico and Subsidize Chinas ZTE and once again create Chaos and demonstrate incompetence and a complete lack of understanding of anything related to the US or Global Economy 

China is an issue - THAT does not Mean that NO one else IS.

 

4. Even the Koch Brothers said they disagree with Trump on his approach to immigration and trade.

I GUESS that Shows that THE Koch brothers DO not Own the WH.

 

In a briefing for reporters, top Koch network officials said the Trump administration’s rhetoric was making it more difficult for politicians and Americans to find common ground. 

 

“The manner in which people engage public policy matters,” said Brian Hooks, the co-chair of the Seminar Network, the umbrella group that hosts the gatherings. “And it’s gone way beyond tone, way beyond tactic.

 

The divisiveness of this White House is causing long-term damage.”

 

“When in order to win on an issue, somebody else has to lose, it makes it very difficult to unite people to solve the problems in this country,” Hooks said. 

 

Source - https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/koch-network-leaders-blast-trump-white-house-as-divisive_us_5b5...

 

 

 

 

 

 


 

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@rk9152 wrote:

@mickstuder wrote:

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This has been explained - Capitalism vs the Marxist managed economy refers to a nation's economy. Tariffs are used to establish the working relationships between nations.

 

 

You have explained - nothing - other than your Opinion .......

No - I accurately described the difference between Marxist economic theory for a nation and the tools used in international trade negotiations. If you think not, let's separate that out and dig further into it.

if what you say is valid then why did Trump just announce his policy goal of - ZERO - Tariffs - between the USA & The European Union?......

I think it is a great goal and his target from the get-go.

The only Tariff Power given to the President are temporary and only in th he interest of National Security - please explain how Europe - Canada & Mexico are threatening our National Security? China's ZTE is threatening our National Security and Trump has instituted a Special Exemption for ZTE while still enforcing all the other Chinese Sanctions he implemented?

If the President is exceeding his authority, that is something for the Courts, not us, to decide.

Claiming Credit for the Increase in Value of Something right before you burn it to the Ground and destroy it - is not something Reasonable People see as a Sustainable Positive Strategy for the Future

Certainly  -and While we are SEEING Increases in our Economic MEASURES, there Has been no BURNING to the Ground. Those are YOUR negativities Showing THROUGH.

 

 That is untrue for several reasons - the US Congress currently has multiple Bi-partisan Bill's pending to reverse Trumps destruction of US Agriculture - Trump just announced 12 Billion of US Tax Payers dollars to be used to bail out US Farmers bReplyecause of Trumps destruction of the US Soybean & Cotton Market 

How does that make me wrong?

 

In your previous post your complaint was the housing market and flat wages - both points wrong. Now, Congressional bills. You seem to just come out with negativity - right or wrong doesn't seem to matter.

 


Why do you avoid answering valid questions or addressing valid points

 

1. Please explain how Europe - Canada & Mexico are threatening our National Security? China's ZTE is threatening our National Security and Trump has instituted a Special Exemption for ZTE while still enforcing all the other Chinese Sanctions he implemented?

 

2. Please Explain if Trump knows what he's doing WHY Trump just announced 12 Billion of US Tax Payers dollars to be used to bail out US Farmers because of Trumps destruction of the US Soybean & Cotton Market?

 

3. Please Explain how raising Tariffs on Europe is a step towards the ultimate goal of Zero Tariffs and how in the same argument you accuse me of Negativity - Positivity would be if the USA took the lead and reduced all it's Tariffs to Zero if that is your ultimate Policy Goal and then watched to see if all the other Countries reciprocated...................

 

If your Goal is Peace with all Countries you don;t first go out and bomb them all to demonstrate your commitment to Peace

 

You use Diplomacy and Negotiation - Trump never tried that with Tariffs - he just went out and bombed everyone with Tariffs and created a War where none existed....................every Economist and Large Corporarte CEO told the President - China is the biggest problem becuase of Intellectual Property theft and currency manipulation - Trumps response Bomb Canada Europe and Mexico and Subsidize Chinas ZTE and once again create Chaos and demonstrate incompetence and a complete lack of understanding of anything related to the US or Global Economy 

 

4. Even the Koch Brothers said they disagree with Trump on his approach to immigration and trade.

 

In a briefing for reporters, top Koch network officials said the Trump administration’s rhetoric was making it more difficult for politicians and Americans to find common ground. 

 

“The manner in which people engage public policy matters,” said Brian Hooks, the co-chair of the Seminar Network, the umbrella group that hosts the gatherings. “And it’s gone way beyond tone, way beyond tactic.

 

The divisiveness of this White House is causing long-term damage.”

 

“When in order to win on an issue, somebody else has to lose, it makes it very difficult to unite people to solve the problems in this country,” Hooks said. 

 

Source - https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/koch-network-leaders-blast-trump-white-house-as-divisive_us_5b5...

 

 

 

 

 

 

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@Richva wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

 

This has been explained - Capitalism vs the Marxist managed economy refers to a nation's economy. Tariffs are used to establish the working relationships between nations.

 

 

Certainly  -and While we are SEEING Increases in our Economic MEASURES, there Has been no BURNING to the Ground. Those are YOUR negativities Showing THROUGH.

 

 I have enjoyed watching the Republicans ALMOST come out against Trump saying that what he is doing is an attempt at a managed economy. Trump and his base just do not understand a free market. Trump thinks he can tax at will (tariffs) and then make up for it with state subsidies to favored industries.  A state managed economy never worked and never will.  Somebody  please teach the POTUS to read.  

 

Are you objecting to the use of tariffs as negotiating tools in international trade talks?

 

Or are you objecting to Republicans not coming out against the President?

 

 

 

 

 


 


 


 

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