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Re: Small Business Optimism Jumps to Highest Since 1983

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@rk9152wrote:

Any thoughts on the topic now that the information from post #1 has been verified by another source?

 

I personally think that verification is valuable but the information is more important than getting all hung up on the source.


Of course since Trump is borrowing like crazy to pump money through the top 1% tax breaks I would be upbeat as a businessman also. Fiscal irresponsibility has a bright spot until you have to start paying the bills. Not to worry, while the tax breaks for corporations are permanent, the breaks for middle class taxpayers is only temporary.   I once had  a friend who also felt getting a new credit card was an excuse to party. 

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Re: Small Business Optimism Jumps to Highest Since 1983

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Richva posted..

Yep, that Trump can promise with the best of them. He can't deliver but boy, can he promise.



Wait till the impact of expensive steel and aluminum hit those small businessmen. It is sad what Trump did to them.

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More sour grapes ...typical of people on the left that are cheering that things in our country do not do well so their party can have control...what a very, very sad way to think.

sour grapes...

used to refer to an attitude in which someone adopts a negative attitude to something because they cannot have it themselves.
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Re: Small Business Optimism Jumps to Highest Since 1983

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@rk9152wrote:

O.K. so the truth isn't the truth because it is reported by Breitbary and the NFIB. How about USAToday - are they also part of the "vast right wing conspiracy"?

 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/small-business/2018/02/14/upbeat-outlook-small-business-optimis...


Just kind of sad that anything reported in Breitbart has to be checked in a real news source before it can be trusted. 


Any thoughts on the topic now that the information from post #1 has been verified by another source?

 

I personally think that verification is valuable but the information is more important than getting all hung up on the source.

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Re: Small Business Optimism Jumps to Highest Since 1983

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@rk9152wrote:

O.K. so the truth isn't the truth because it is reported by Breitbary and the NFIB. How about USAToday - are they also part of the "vast right wing conspiracy"?

 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/small-business/2018/02/14/upbeat-outlook-small-business-optimis...


Just kind of sad that anything reported in Breitbart has to be checked in a real news source before it can be trusted. 

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O.K. so the truth isn't the truth because it is reported by Breitbary and the NFIB. How about USAToday - are they also part of the "vast right wing conspiracy"?

 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/small-business/2018/02/14/upbeat-outlook-small-business-optimis...

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Yep, that Trump can promise with the best of them. He can't deliver but boy, can he promise. 

 

Wait till the impact of expensive steel and aluminum hit those small businessmen.  It is sad what Trump did to them. 

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Jim posted..

NFIB is America’s leading small business association, promoting and protecting the right of our members to own, operate, and grow their businesses. If you’re an independent business owner, join NFIB today to enjoy exclusive member discounts, business networking opportunities in your local area, free HR support for your business and much more!

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That's why I was member.

I see many from the left bashing this thread. What better a group to ask about small business optimism?
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The National Federation of Independent Business (NFIB) is the largest small business association in the country and is headquartered in Nashville, Tennessee, with offices in Washington, D.C., and all 50 state capitals. NFIB is a non-profit that works to defend the right of small business owners to own and operate their businesses without undue government interference.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Federation_of_Independent_Business

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And that is a good thing and is needed today with the bad mouthing of businesses coming from many liberals.

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afisher

The NFIB is a lobbying firm, just like the NRA.

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It does look out for small businesses...so?


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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Federation_of_Independent_Business

 

On its website, the National Federation of Independent Business states that it is a "nonprofit, nonpartisan organization founded in 1943" and "represents the consensus views of its members in Washington and all 50 state capitals."[2] Its PAC is called Save America's Free Enterprise Trust (SAFE).[3][4]

 

In 2010, 25 of its members, all Republican, were elected to the 112th Congress.[5] A number of them, such as Rand Paul, Jeff Duncan, Paul Gosar and Kristi Noem, are affiliated with or endorsed by the Tea Party movement.

 

Also in 2010, the NFIB became the lead plaintiff opposing the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act health care reform legislation. The organization joined 26 states in the lawsuit challenging the constitutionality of the act. The case was picked up by the Supreme Court, which issued its ruling on National Federation of Independent Business v. Sebelius on June 28, 2012, upholding most provisions of the act. Karl Rove's conservative Crossroads GPS PAC gave NFIB $3.7 million to help fund the court fight.[6] Meanwhile, many other small business advocates supported PPACA.[7]

 

The NFIB supported the America's Small Business Tax Relief Act of 2014 (H.R. 4457; 113th Congress), a bill that would amend section 179 of the Internal Revenue Code, which mostly affects small- to medium-sized businesses, to retroactively and permanently extend from January 1, 2014, increased limitations on the amount of investment that can be immediately deducted from taxable income.[8] The bill would return the tax code to its 2013 status and make the change permanent.[9] Dan Danner, the president and CEO at that time, argued that Congress could help small business by passing the bill as it would enable small businesses to "plan for the future, invest in the economy and hire new workers."[10]

 

IN 2017, NFIB endorsed confirmation of SCOTUS nominee Neil Gorsuch.[11]

 

 

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/statements/byruling/false/ (8 pages of lies and growing)
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