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@PaintItBlack wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

Mary - Have you accepted the fallacy of "Seeking asylum isn't a crime"? It depends on how you do it - legally or illegally.


They are doing it legally when they can.

 

They are doing it illegally when the CBP lies to them and tells them the legal crossing is closed, which is against international law (yes, I'm aware that Trumplings spit on international law.).

 

They are doing it illegally when the border crossing is backed up and they've already spent months walking across deserts with little food.

 

When they do it illegally, they present themselves to the first person they can to apply for asylum. Unlike all previous administrations, Trump's thugs have decided to actually prosecute this misdemeanor without trial. This is the legal loophole that you and Trump rely on to put infants in jail.

 

Slavery was once legal, too. If I had lived then, I'd have been one of those folks breaking the law to help them escape. Because laws can be immoral. And morals are the highest standard to which we can hold ourselves.

 

How about you, Mr. Illegal Loophole?

 

 You are going of the edge again. Let's keep it simple. It is not illegal to seek asylum legally - period. Agreed?


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@rk9152 wrote:

Mary - Have you accepted the fallacy of "Seeking asylum isn't a crime"? It depends on how you do it - legally or illegally.


They are doing it legally when they can.

 

They are doing it illegally when the CBP lies to them and tells them the legal crossing is closed, which is against international law (yes, I'm aware that Trumplings spit on international law.).

 

They are doing it illegally when the border crossing is backed up and they've already spent months walking across deserts with little food.

 

When they do it illegally, they present themselves to the first person they can to apply for asylum. Unlike all previous administrations, Trump's thugs have decided to actually prosecute this misdemeanor without trial. This is the legal loophole that you and Trump rely on to put infants in jail.

 

Slavery was once legal, too. If I had lived then, I'd have been one of those folks breaking the law to help them escape. Because laws can be immoral. And morals are the highest standard to which we can hold ourselves.

 

How about you, Mr. Illegal Loophole?

 

 

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Mary - Have you accepted the fallacy of "Seeking asylum isn't a crime"? It depends on how you do it - legally or illegally.

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Driving the speed limit isn't a crime.

 

Driving the speed limit in the wrong lane going the wrong direction is... and very dangerous!

 

 

 

 


Exactly. That's why I propose that anyone perpetrating a traffic crime be immediately thrown in jail indefinitely, and any minors who are in the car with that person should be immediately put into a cage, then later flown somewhere else in the country with no tracking records kept of their location so that they never see their parents again.

 

Deal? 

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Well, jim, I believe that should do it for all except the "one-worlders" and those incapable of thought and react only to emotions, "But, but, the children....".

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@gruffstuff wrote:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/seeking-asylum-isnt-a-crime-why-do-trump-and-sessions-act-lik...

 

Seeking asylum isn’t a crime. Why do Trump and Sessions act like it is?

 

 

 


Driving the speed limit isn't a crime.

 

Driving the speed limit in the wrong lane going the wrong direction is... and very dangerous!

 

 

 

 

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It isn't a crime if it is done following existing procedures.

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/seeking-asylum-isnt-a-crime-why-do-trump-and-sessions-act-lik...

 

Seeking asylum isn’t a crime. Why do Trump and Sessions act like it is?

 

The immigration system, if you believe President Trump and Attorney General Jeff Sessions, is rife with fraud and abuse. And while Trump’s administration is hostile to all immigrants, it’s people seeking asylum whom he and his advisers most scorn.

 

Sessions says “dirty immigration lawyers ” push their clients to make “fake claims” to trigger court proceedings that might allow them to stay in the United States. He seems to see the entire concept of asylum as a “loophole.”

 

Trump declared last weekend on Twitter that we should send migrants out of the country “with no Judges or Court Cases.” He says immigration laws are a “joke” and that it’s “ridiculous ” that people who appear at the border seeking asylum can’t immediately be sent back to where they came from. 

In reality, immigrants who seek asylum are not criminals, even though they are now being charged as such.

 

Their lawyers are simply giving them basic information. And the “zero tolerance” policy that led the administration for a time to separate children from their parents at the U.S.-Mexico border shows how radically Trump wants to change laws and practices, developed over decades, to provide a haven for people fleeing persecution and weed out undeserving claims.

 

As it happens, most of those seeking admission at our southern border are not economic migrants seeking a better life but instead asylum seekers fleeing for their lives

 

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